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Rwanda : Kagame bloque de nouveau la désignation du nouvel Ambassadeur de France au Rwanda


Rwanda : successeur de l’ambassadeur Michel Flesch

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Quai d’Orsay – Point de presse du porte parole adjoint – 29 septembre 2015
Q – Bonjour, Fred Constant, le diplomate français proposé il y a 4 mois à Kigali pour remplacer l’ambassadeur Michel Flesh, sur le départ, n’a toujours pas été agréé par les autorités rwandaises.
Il semble que la passation de pouvoir ne pourra se faire, M. Flesh devant quitter son poste à la fin septembre.
Faut-il y voir le signe d’un regain de tension entre la France et le Rwanda ?
R – Nous avons présenté une demande d’agrément aux autorités rwandaises pour le successeur de l’ambassadeur Michel Flesch et attendons leur réponse.
Le délai que vous évoquez est conforme à la procédure habituelle et n’a rien d’anormal.
Nous sommes attachés à une coopération bilatérale constructive et tournée vers l’avenir avec le Rwanda.
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[haguruka.com] Fw: *DHR* José Kagabo nous a quitté

 




On Wednesday, 30 September 2015, 18:55, "Mpere Theodore tmpere@hotmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:


 
Monsieur Maurice,

J' ai lu et relu l' article de Mme Braekman, qui parle avec véhémence les hauts faits de Mr José Kagabo( qui nous a quitté), son intelligence, son savoir-vivre, son sourire, son élégance etc... et je reste perplexe.
Dans la culture Rwandaise, on ne dit pas du mal à un défunt, car il ne sert en rien de ternir l' image de celui qui vient de quitter cette terre.

Difficile de dire non plus quand les premières croix isolées s' élevèrent près des Eglises, dans les cimetières pour rendre hommage aux hommes qui ont osé mentir tout le continent, de prêcher dans le désert  par des  discours haineux, qui ne faisait que salir les innocents, en les comparant/ considérant aux truands, et le monde entier l' a cru.

Prétendre que quelqu'un fut un Professeur de grand renom, qui enseignait le contraire de  la morale humaine, qui écrivait les " non dit", tout en sachant que tous les écrits resteront indéfiniment, c' est une faute morale aux yeux de l' humanité toute entière, une faute d' étique impardonnable.
Du bouc au bleues, on sait que Kagabo n' est plus, mais ses écrits mensongers resteront, et la génération future aura à les consulter  et les prendre  pour référence, alors que ce sont des hérésies fabriquées de toute pièce.

Cette présence d'un tel symbole erroné ne suffit pas à dissuader les forces du mal de s' implanter dans tous les villages du Rwanda y compris celui de Gahanga, dont Collette Braeckman fait référence dans son blog flatteur en louant  les haut fait du regretté José Kagabo .
Dans sa démonomanie de sorciers, seule l' histoire nous dira si José Kagabo était un homme intégré ou un catalyseur qui a poussé tant d' âmes de Rwandais à quitter prématurement ce monde suite à ses mensonges qu' il considérait comme une vérité, plutôt sa vérité!

Dieu avait donné une intelligence grandiose à José Kagabo, e n'en disconviens pas, mais je suis sans nul doute qu' il l'a abusée  dans ses écrits truffés de mensonges sur l' histoire du Rwanda, preuve qu' il existe toujours une certaine forme de magie  et de louange dans l' air........

Ceci étant, je ne lui souhaitais pas un départ si précipité, mais j' ose affirmer sans ambages qu 'avant de rendre son âme, il a pris une seconde au moins pour demander pardon  à Dieu ,au mal qu' il a fait à ses frères Rwandais, quand il faisait circuler une histoire inappropriée  et indigne pour le Rwanda, source de malheur pour des milliers de gens innocents.

Dieu seul , qui est miséricordieux et qui connait nos hauts faits, pourra lui rendre une justice qu'il mérite.
Sinon, je ne fais que lui souhaiter un repos mérité de son âme, un réconfort pour sa famille éprouvée et que la terre lui soit légère.

Théodore


To: democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr
From: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:45:49 +0000
Subject: *DHR* José Kagabo nous a quitté

 

« Tout ce que je sais, c'est que José, avec son grand sourire, son front dégarni qui charriait trop d'idées, son verbe fort, était un ami, un homme honnête et bon, d'un autre temps peut-être, un homme qui croyait en la vie mais ne voulait pas la vivre n'importe comment. Longtemps, il va manquer… » Ecrit C. Braeckman - lesoir.be en hommage à Hamim Kagabo (dit José)
 
Mais quelles vies des détruites ? Quelles carrières ruinées ?  Quels rêves brisés des gens innocents par cet homme ? Oui, cet homme avait aussi des casseroles à son actif. Qui le dira ?
A l'heure où nous quittons ce monde, l'histoire commence à nous juger sur le champ. Tout le monde sera jugé sur ses actes « héroïques » mais aussi sur ses « actes manqués ».
 
Dieu ait son âme.
 
MS


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[haguruka.com] Re: Rwanda: Nahimana asks why the US wants to deport Munyakazi

 

Komera Kota,

Reka twiganirire mu rurimi rwa Gihanga ni rwo nishyikira ho cyane.
Iriya nyandiko wandangiye nari nsanzwe nyizi. Icyo nayivuga ho ni uko idasubiza impungenge zanjye n'iza Nsengiyumva ku byerekeye amabanga u Rda na Amerika byaba bifitanye ku byerekeye amahano yagwiriye uRda, ayo mabanga akaba ashobora kuba ari mu bituma Prof Munyakazi atotezwa.

Iriya nyandiko wandangiye kandi nta gishya njye yanyunguye. Icyo igamije mbere na mbere ni ugukingira ikibaba amahanga. Ntigaragaza ukuri kwose ku byabaye mu Rwanda, cyane cyane ukuntu bimwe mu bihugu by'ibihangange byashyigikiye Inkotanyi.

Ibintu njye uko mbibona biteye bitya:

-nta na rimwe biriya bihugu bizigera byemera ko byashyigikiye Inkotanyi;
-biriya bihugu ntibizigera kandi byivuguruza ngo bivuge ko ubwicanyi bwabaye mu Rda atari genocide yakorewe abatutsi;
-k'ubw'amahirwe ubwicanyi bwibasiye abahutu (mu Rda no muri Congo) na bwo buzagera aho bwitabwe ho maze ababwijanditse mo bisobanure imbere y'amategeko.

Ni yo mpamvu, nk'uko Amb. JMV Ndagijimana yabivuze mu minsi yashize, abanyarwanda ntitwagombye guhora twitakana amahanga. Ni twe ubwacu (abahutu n'abatutsi) mbere na mbere tugomba kwibaza tukisubiza tugafata n'ingamba nyazo zikumira ariya mahano: nibyo koko twarateranywe ari ko natwe ubwacu ntitukibagirwe ko twatereranye abacu tukanatsembana.

"It is true that we were abandoned. But we abandoned our people, and massacred our own people," Jean-Marie Vianney Ndagijimana, Rwanda's ambassador to Paris during the genocide, said during the review. "Primary responsibility for the genocide, and the crimes that accompanied it, must be borne by us, Rwandans. We must accept that fact before we make accusations against the international community."

Pour votre info:

International Decision Making in the Age of Genocide: Rwanda 1990–94


 


From: "kota venant kotakori@hotmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>
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Subject: FW: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: Rwanda: Nahimana asks why the US wants to deport Munyakazi

 
Dear netters, we wonder why do people still ask the hen's teeth when its mouth has been widely opened?  
Sir Nzinink, you have nothing to "totally agree with sir Nsengiyunva''. If you were performing other duties, please now open this link and read what is officially known/revealed:  http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB472/ ! The information may allow you to better understand that something common between both powers about the 1994 hell over Rwanda. 
Prof Munyakazi and other likes who dare pointing out seen difficulties in the complicated history of conflict in Rwanda are in a sinking boat and have nothing else or more to do. Only to hope in and pray God for he be ready to receive their soul in paradise!   









And Ndumunyarwanda policy would be telling people that there is/was no ethnic divide in Rwanda [official government policy)!




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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:29:46 -0400
Subject: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: Rwanda: Nahimana asks why the US wants to deport Munyakazi

 

"It is clear to me, that there is something the US government and Rwandan authorities have in common, about the 1994 hell over Rwanda.  It has nothing to do with justice. And it is what accounts for the deportation of Prof Munyakazi", Celestin Nsengiyumva.

I totally agree with you.


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Something is amiss. If there is no ethnic divide [official government policy; Prof Munyakazi, Father Nahimana], then there was no genocide. It was some sort of national madness. In that case, even the government of Rwanda, while prosecuting genocide deniers, is itself in a situation of genocide denial.   And now, Prof Munyakazi is facing a situation of justice denial.
It is clear to me, that there is something the US government and Rwandan authorities have in common, about the 1994 hell over Rwanda.  It has nothing to do with justice.And it is what accounts for the deportation of Prof Munyakazi.
 


Le Lundi 28 septembre 2015 22h28, "Nzinink nzinink@yahoo.com [uRwanda_rwacu]" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :


 

Rwanda: Nahimana asks why the US wants to deport Munyakazi

Submitted by Ann Garrison on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 21:09

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    KPFA Weekend News, 09.26.2015
    Dr. Léopold Munyakazi has been denied an emergency stay of his extradition to Rwanda. Father Thomas Nahima says that this is unjust because Dr. Munyakazi has committed no crime.
    Transcript: 
    KPFA Weekend News Anchor Sharon Sobotta: Dr. Léopold Munyakazi is in the custody of ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, altDr. Léopold Munyakazi, a former French professor at Gaucher collegein Miami, Florida, where he is on the verge of being deported to Rwanda for alleged crimes related to the 1994 massacres that came to be known as the Rwandan Genocide. This week a court denied his request for an emergency stay so that he could complete the appeals process.
     
    The Rwandan government accused Professor Munyakazi of genocide crime after he made several speeches to university audiences in which he said that the Rwandan massacres were not genocide but class conflict.
     
    KPFA's Ann Garrison spoke to Father Thomas Nahimana about the Munyakazi case. Nahimana is a Catholic priest who plans to return from France to Rwanda in 2016 to challenge incumbent President Paul Kagame in the 2017 election.
     
    KPFA/Ann Garrison: Dr. Léopold Munyakazi, a former French professor at Goucher College, is close to being deported from the U.S., back to Rwanda, for giving several speeches in which he described the massacres as class conflict, not ethnic conflict. He said that Rwandans are the same people, speaking the same language and sharing the same culture. So the Hutu Tutsi conflict was really a class divide, not an ethnic divide. What do you think of that?
     
    Father Thomas Nahimana: Yes. I think that I agree with Munyakazi. I agree very much with him. And the division between Hutu and Tutsi, it is not a matter of blood. It is a matter of political and social interests only.
     
    But this is not a sin. This is not a crime. I don't understand why America accepts that Munyakazi has to face the problem that he is facing nowadays. 
     
    This is analysis which is good, which is good about our society. 
     
    KPFA: Well, when I began to try to understand this, I thought, "You speak the same language. You have the same culture. How am I supposed to understand this Hutu Tutsi divide as ethnic?" 
     
    Nahimana: Yes. The reality is that in our country, we are one people. Yes, we speak the same language. We marry each other, and the problems rise only when there is power to share. The international community must know that really, Hutu and Tutsi, it is not a problem of blood. It is only a problem of economic and political interests only. 
     
    KPFA: That would be a really radical change in the way the world thinks about Rwanda because we're commonly told that the U.S. needs to go to war, as in Libya or Syria, to stop genocide, as we failed to in Rwanda. Could you comment on that? 
     
    Nahimana: I think the problem of Rwandan Genocide is always complicated because the genocide happened when there was a civil war since four years. So, there was a part who wanted to win the war and to take power. And that part was RPF led by Paul Kagame. They didn't want anyone to intervene to stop that. That's true. They wanted to take power. The international community hasn't any fault. I can say that because we know, by history, that RPF wrote letters to the UN saying that they didn't want anybody to intervene.
     
    When they talk about genocide, they speak only about what happened in the part that was governed by the former government of Habyarimana, but they never talk about what was happening in the part where it was RPF. 
     
    KPFA: OK, you're talking about the areas that were RPF territory. The violence and atrocities that took place in territory controlled by the RPF - the winners - that's not reported. 
     
    Nahimana: Yes, and we are asking ourselves why the international community continues to keep a blind eye to the atrocities committed by the RPF, and that is a big problem for reconciliation in Rwanda.
     
    KPFA: And that was Father Thomas Nahimana speaking about the extradition case of former Goucher College French professor Dr. Léopold Munyakazi. Munyakazi's lawyer and supporters say that he will not recant his description of the Rwandan massacres as a class conflict because too many lives in the African Great Lakes Region depend on truth being told.

    For PacificaKPFA and AfrobeatRadio, I'm Ann Garrison. 
     


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    [haguruka.com] Rwanda: Ni iki cyabujije perezida Kagame gukandagiza ikirenge mu nama yo muri Kanada?

     


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    Mu mpera z'icyumweru gishize tariki ya 25 kugeza ku ya 27 i « Montréal » muri Kanada habereye inama y'urubyiruko rw'Urwanda. Iyo nama yavugaga ku kwihangira imirimo, gushakira umuti ikibazo cy'ubushomeri, imishinga ibyara ibikorwa bihoraho, ndetse ku munsi wa nyuma banagarutse kuri ya gahunda ya « ndi umunyarwanda ».

    Ab'i Montréal bari biteze ko perezida Paul Kagame anyaruka akaza muri iyo nama ariko ntiyahakandagije ikirenge nyamara ntiyari kure kuko yari i New York muri Leta zunze ubumwe z'Amerika. Imyiteguro n'ubutumwa byerekanaga ko azaba ari we mushyitsi mukuru. Yari ategerejwe n'abitabiriye iyo nama ndetse n'abakoresheje imyigaragambyo bari biyemeje kumwereka no kumubwira ibyo banenga politiki n'ibikorwa bye. Kuki atahageze nyamara bari bamwiteguye atanari kure yaho?

    Hari abavuga ko atari kubasha kujya mu nama zombi mu bihe bimwe. Abatabibona batyo batanga impamvu nyinshi zerekana ko hari ikintu gikomeye cyatumye jenerali Paul Kagame asubika kujya muri Kanada.

    Impamvu yavuzwe ni uko yaburiwe ko kujya muri Kanada yabigiriramo ingaruka bitewe n'ibirego abatavugarumwe n'ubutegetsi bwe bashyikirije inzego zibishinzwe mu mezi ashize. Muri ibyo birego bakaba barasobanuye uburyo muri Kanada hoherezwa abahawe gushyira mu bikorwa umugambi wo kubagirira nabi.

    Kuri icyo hakiyongeraho inyandiko yashyizwe ahagaragara na bamwe muri opozisiyo basaba Kanada kutemerera Paul Kagame kuhinjira mu gihe baba batiyemeje kubanza kumusaba kwisobanura ku birego bamutanzeho. Bamwe mu babikurikiranira hafi bakavuga ko Kanada ariyo yaba yarafashe iya mbere ikamugira inama yo kutahakandagira cyane ko nta n'umuyobozi wari wishingiye kumwakira.

    Impamvu yindi yavuzwe ishobora gutuma umukuru w'igihugu asubika gahunda yari ahafite ni imyigaragambyo yatangajwe hakiri kare, izamo abanyarwanda n'abakongoamani. Abayiteguye bari banibukije indi yabaye Toronto, i Londres, i Buruseli n'ahandi ku buryo bidatangaje ko na yo ubwayo yashoboraga kumuha kwibaza iby'ayo mayira. Ibyo bikubitiraho ko, uko bwije uko bukeye hari abavuga ko bafite impungenge ku miyoborereiriho muri iki gihe.

    Ku byavugiwe mu myigaragambyo (nka za slogans z'abakongomani) amagambo akusanyiriza hamwe ubwoko abwitirira ubwicanyi n'ibindi bibi, ni imvugo zidakwiye kuko Amateka yerekanye ko bishobora gukurura ihangana rihitana abantu. Abanyarwanda bari mu bateguye imyigaragambyo nka Gallican Gasana bavuga ko badashyigikiye imvugo zatuma amoko ahangana cyangwa hagira uzira ubwoko bwe.

    Mu rwego rw'isakazamakuru, ibiganiro byari byateguwe ku buryo byashoboraga gutambuka kuri Televiziyo y'Urwanda biri kuba (en direct) nyamara ntibyanyuraho, ku buryo izo mpamvu zo hejuru na zo zaba zarababaye kidobya.

    Kudafungura iyo nama, ntibyabujije bamwe kwiringira ko azaza bukeye bw'aho nyamara abandi ntibagarutse ku munsi ukurikiyeho ku buryo iyo anahagera yari kumirwa kubera umubare muke w'abari bahari. Ngo ugereranyije n'abitabiriye « Rwanda day » i Toronto mu w'2013 nta na kimwe cya kane cyari muri iyi nama ya Montréal.

    Impamvu y'umubare muto ngo n'uko hari abamaze gukura icyizere ku miyoborere ya Paul Kagame. Aba bemeza ko iyicwa rya Rwigara Assinapol n'isenyerwa rye kimwe n'ibindi bikorwa bisa nk'ibyo byahaye benshi kubona ko hari ikibazo mu miterere y'ubutegetsi.

    Kuba perezida Paul Kagame yari yateganyije kuza, hari byinshi bibyerekana nk'uko byemezwa n'abakurikiraniye hafi imyiteguro n'amagambo ayitegura. Urwego rw'umutekano mu bari biteguye, bivugwa ko wari ku kigero gisanzwe kigenerwa umugaba w'ikirenga. Kuba uhagarariye Urwanda muri Leta zunze ubumwe z'Amerika yari muri iyo gahunda yo muri Kanada ngo bihamya ko atari kuhaza ngo asige Kagame USA mu gihe yari kuba azi ko atazaza muri icyo gakorwa. Ntacyari kitakozwe ngo haze abantu benshi, kandi bari bateguriwe ahantu hanini nk'ahasanzwe hari buze imbaga ije kwakira umukuru w'igihugu.

    Igikorwa ubwacyo cyari cyahawe uburemere kandi n'ubundi ibyagombaga kuganirwaho byari mu ngingo zifite ireme mu gihe koko byari kunguranwaho ibitekerezo zitaye ku banyarwanda bose muri rusange. Aha ni na cyo kibazo Rudakubana umwe mu bitabiriye inama yabajije. Muri make yabajije igituma abatabona ibintu kimwe n'ubutegetsi buriho, batabasha kugera mu ihuriro nk'iryo ngo na bo bavuge icyo batekereza aho kugira ngo impande zose zitane ba mwana hejuru yo kutemera kuvugana imbonankubone.

    Ku wa gatandatu benshi mu rubyiruko batanze ibiganiro byerekanye ko hari abafite ubuhanga n'imishinga yateza igihugu imbere. Ku cyumweru abanyapolitiki barimo abaminisitiri nk'uw'ubutegetsi bw'igihugu Francis Kanoneka bakoresheje amagambo akarishye ku buryo hari abibajije icyo bigamije. Minisisitiri Kaboneka yageze n'aho avuga ko bazarasa abantu. Uyu mugabo bivugwa ko ari umwe mu bantu ba hafi y'umukuru w'Urwanda, ku buryo kumwumvana iyo mvugo ari umwe mu bayobozi bakuru byateye impungenge abamwumvise.

    Mu badepite kandi harimo na Edouard Bamporiki washimangiye ko anyuzwe na gahunda ya « ndi umunyarwanda », kuri we ngo ni ngombwa gusaba imbabazi mu izina ry'abo mu bwoko bwe bicanye. Uyu mudepite asobanura ko hari ukamira abandi mu Rwanda, ko abashaka kuyoboka ngo na bo bazakamirwa, mu magambo yandi akivugira ko niba hari abatabona ko politiki iriho mu Rwanda ari nziza ngo abo ntibazi ibyiza bihari. Yemeza ko hari ubwisanzure, kugubwa neza, kwihaza muri byose, cyane amafunguro, nyamara n'itangazamakuru rikorera Leta ntabwo ribikabiriza bigeze aho.

    Uyu mudepite ntiyibuza no kwamagana no gusesereza abatavugarumwe n'ubutegetsi akorera. Iyo ageze kuri Padiri Thomas Nahimana, agereranya inyandiko ze n'ibyo avuga ko uwabyakira yaba ari nko gushyira mu nda ibiribwa byarengeje igihe bigahinduka nk'uburozi. Uyu mudepite w'intyoza wayobotse ishyaka riri ku butegetsi, kenshi akaba arivuga imyato by'umwihariko perezida waryo Paul Kagame yemeza ko ngo Urwanda ntawundi rukesha amakiriro n'amizero.

    Kumenya gushyenga, kuvuga imyato, gusingiza abo akorera no guharabika no kwamagana abatavugarumwe n'ubutegetsi bimuhesha amashyi ndetse hari abamufata nk'umaze kuba ikirangirire. Ejobundi muri iriya nama hari umutegetsi wamubwiye ngo bitewe n'uko asobanuye ibintu neza ntacyo yakongereho ngo byose yabivuze. Biri mu kiganiro cyatanzwe tariki ya 27/09/2015 (kuva ku 01h19'22''kugeza 2h53'27'').

    Abateguye iyi nama y'urubyiruko bavuga ko bishimiye uko yagenze; mu gihe abitegereje umubare w'abayitabiriye, bakanumva na bimwe mu byayivugiwemo nk'amagambo akaze, adafasha abantu kumva ko buri wese afite uburenganzira, by'umwihariko ubwo kubaho, (amagambo nk'aya minisitiri w'ubutegetsi bw'igihugu) bibaza niba hari inyungu yavuye muri iyi nama nko ku kibazo cy'umwuka mubi hagati y'abari ku butegetsi n'abatavugarumwe na bo kuko n'ibyaganiriweho byagasigasiwe no kubonera umuti inzangano zuririra ku kudahuza ibitekerezo muri politiki.



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    -The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
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    [haguruka.com] Re: Nguwo mwene Joe

     

    "Njye ibyo numvise ni uko bavuze ko hagomba abantu bize binjira mu bya politiki, murumva se atari ukuninura ibiriho", Shema.

    Nanjye niko mbibona. 
    Cyokora njye simbona impamvu intore nyinshi zikomye uriya muhungu zivuga ngo ni Kagame yavugaga ubwo yavuze ko hari abantu bava mu mashyamba bagahita baba ba perezida. 
    Niba ntibeshye nzi ko Kagame yavuye mu ishyamba muri 1994 akaba perezida muri 2000.  Kagame we ubwe yabivugiye ko byabaye ngombwa ko abantu babimuhatira. Uyu mwikomo w'intore njye ndabona uhuye neza na ya mvugo ngo "bavuga ibigondamye umuhoro ukarakara"!

    Twibukiranye ibyanditswe n'igihe.com:

    Uyu muhungu aragira ati:

    [...] twavugaga ko muri Afurika bigoye kubona abantu bubatse ubushobozi bwabo kugira ngo babe nka Perezida.

    Akongera ati:

    [....] we (umunyamakuru wa Graphic Pepperdine) yatekereje ko kuko turi kuvuga Afurika yose ari nako bimeze mu Rwanda. Ntabwo twigeze na rimwe tugira izina dukomozaho, ntitwigeze tuvuga ko ari mu Rwanda cyangwa ngo tuvuge Perezida w'u Rwanda n'undi uwo ariwe wese, twavuze ko muri Afurika ari byo bibabo.


    On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:46 AM, SHEMA shimamungu@gmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

     

    Ariko murasetsa rwose! Murumva se uriya muhungu bari kumubaza akavuga ngo nibyo koko?! Haciye umunsi wose Igihe kidashobora kumubona. Muribwira se ko Se atahise abimenya? Muribwira se ko nta waciye inyuma ngo amubwire yivuguruze? Njye ibyo numvise ni uko bavuze ko hagomba abantu bize binjira mu bya politiki, murumva se atari ukuninura ibiriho. Umunyamakuru ashobora kuba yarabivuze uko yabyumvise ariko ndumva ataratandukiriye cyane nk'ibyo dusanzwe tubona! Harahagazwe!


    2015-09-30 12:33 GMT+02:00 agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>:
     

    Inyasi Rudahunga,



    Igihe nacyo kiremera ko kitabanje kubaza JM Habineza niba ibivugwa ari byo. Ngo baramuhamagaye ntiyaboneka nabo ntibategereza bahitisha iya mpuruye aha, none aho abonekeye aranyomoza ibyamwanditweho.


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    “Uwigize agatebo ayora ivi”. Ubutegetsi bukugira agatebo ukariyora uko bukeye n’uko bwije.

    "Ce dont j’ai le plus peur, c’est des gens qui croient que, du jour au lendemain, on peut prendre une société, lui tordre le cou et en faire une autre."

    “The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

    “The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.”

    “I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile."

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