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Fw: *DHR* Patrick Karegeya' Assassination: SIGN PETITION TO Aid Partners of Rwanda and USA PRESIDENT

 
Hi!

I just signed the petition "Petition to Development Aid Partners of Rwanda and President of the United States: Petition to Development Aid Partners of Rwanda for an international probe into the assassination of Rwandan opposition leader Patrick Karegeya in Johannesburg (01.01.2014)" on Change.org.

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Patrick Karegeya' Assassination: SIGN PETITION TO Aid Partners of Rwanda and USA PRESIDENT

Hi!

I just signed the petition "Petition to Development Aid Partners of Rwanda and President of the United States: Petition to Development Aid Partners of Rwanda for an international probe into the assassination of Rwandan opposition leader Patrick Karegeya in Johannesburg (01.01.2014)" on Change.org.

It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/petition-to-development-aid-partners-of-rwanda-and-president-of-the-united-states-petition-to-development-aid-partners-of-rwanda-for-an-international-probe-into-the-assassination-of-rwandan-opposition-leader-patrick-karegeya-in-johannesburg-01-01-201?share_id=eyYKYiOsbH&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
 

Family stranded with Karegeya’s body in South Africa

The South African government released the body of former Rwanda spymaster Col Patrick Karegeya but the family is still stuck with it in Johannesburg because they have not received clearance from the Uganda government to bring it in the country for burial.
Col Karegeya's brother Ernest Mugabo told the Sunday Monitor yesterday that the body was being kept in a private mortuary waiting for clearance from Kampala.
"The body has been handed over to us. It is in a private mortuary but we are stuck because the government of Uganda has not cleared us to bring it for burial. We do not know what to do," he said.
Col Karegeya, 53, was discovered dead on a bed in Johannesburg's luxurious Michelangelo Towers Hotel room on New Year's Day, prompting accusations that Rwandan president Paul Kagame was behind the assassination. The Rwandan government has dismissed the claim.
On Thursday, Col Karegeya's family in Uganda appealed to the government to allow the body to be buried in Uganda. Col Karegeya has a home in Biharwe, Kashari County in Mbarara District.
Mr David Batenga, the deceased's nephew to whom the South African government released the body, said consultations were still ongoing and a final funeral programme would be released later in the day.

 
This newspaper understands that preliminary findings of the postmortem done at Johannesburg General Hospital were inconclusive and experts there had extracted additional samples from the body for further toxicological analysis to determine the exact cause of death.
The Foreign Affairs spokesperson, Mr Fred Opolot, said yesterday that the Uganda government would first consult the Rwandan Embassy in Kampala since Col Karegeya was a Rwandan citizen.
"The government will consult with the Rwandan Embassy about this issue. But our position is that we cannot take unilateral decision since Col. Karegeya is not an ordinary Rwandan," Mr Opolot said.
Earlier on Friday, the State Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr Okello Oryem, said Col Karegeya's family would be allowed to bury him in Uganda but "without involvement of the Uganda government in the arrangements" but added it would be after consultations with the Rwandan government.
"We are doing it specifically on humanitarian grounds….," Mr Oryem said.
Although the Uganda government said Col Karegeya, who was born in Uganda, could be buried here as requested by his mother, other relatives are understood to be weighing all options available.
Close family sources said Rwanda was opposed to the burial of Col Karegeya in Uganda but this claim could not be officially verified as Rwandan High Commissioner in Kampala Maj Gen Frank Mugambage didn't answer our repeated calls.
However, Mr Opolot said they had not received any formal protest from Kigali either, regarding the burial of Col Karegeya's body in Uganda.
He also said Karegeya's family had not made a formal request to the government to have him buried at his home in Mbarara.
High Court judge Kenneth Kakuru, who is chairing the committee of friends and relatives making burial arrangements, confirmed the family had not made a formal request but said there was no need to.
"I have never heard such. Many people have died in different countries and their remains are flown and buried back home. There is no need to make a request," Justice Kakuru said.
He said the widow, who lives in the USA, would give a statement later in the day on when and where the deceased would be buried.
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[RwandaLibre] Fw: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry’inshi ku muryango we.

 

 

Nsenga,
 
Ubisobanuye neza cyane kand muri make. Byose babikora baseka: cyinisme. Uwo mwari inshuti , uwagufashije, akaba ariwe ugutanga. None se amalistes yakozwe  y'abicanyi ari hanze muri za interpols aba yarakozwe  na nde. Yakozwe n'uwo mwabanaga cyangwa se wagukijije interahamwe we akabifata ko waziyoboraga. Ngaho aho amoko atandukaniye.
 
Ni akaga kwicwa n'uwo mwasangiye, mwabanye. Umudamu wa Karegeya n'uwa Kagame ngo bajyaga muri vacances hamwe ( selon RFI). Njye ahubwo nibuza uburyo umudamu wa Kagame ashobora kugarama Kagame akajya hejuru azi ko ari umwicanyi !
 
Ninde utakwibaza ibi ? Mumbarariye ngiye kure ariko hari ibibazo byinshi twibaza kuri uwo muryango cyane cyane muri iryo yica rya Karegeya.
 
Uwo Apollo ngo yari ashinzwe no gushakira abanzungu mu Rwanda abagore nkuko RFI yabyanditse. Umuntu ukora nk'ibyo ni nk'ababandi bacuruza drogue. Ni ukumwirinda.
 
Ikindi  Karegeya n'abandi bo RNC bakomeje gusa nkaho bakora chantage ngo bazavuga ukuri ku byerekeye uwahanuye indege ya Habyara. Bananiwe ni iki gutanagaza inyandiko  hagati aho ivuga uko byagenze noneho bakazayishimangira bahuye n'abaransa bakora enqutes kuri icyo kibazo.
 
Iyo Karegeya  abwira abafaransa ati ndi menace kubera ko mfite information z'abafasha , bajyaga kumufasha cyangwa agahungirayo. Bajyaga kwita kuri securite ye mu Bufaransa. Yakomeje asa nkaho akora iterabwoba kuri Kagame ( chantage), Kagame  iryo terabwoba arikuraho.
 
 
 
 
 

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Subject: Re: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
abasomye ikilatini nka Ngabo yibuke : "......tu quoique filii......" , ati " .......Koko nawe Kirisisi..... nozeraga......
Ngayo à magambo ushobora gusanga yapfuye avuga areka i nyamara Kiririsi.
Oya, uliya mugabo yapfuye agahinda pe. Buli wese yishyize mu mwanya we areka iliya Nyamara Kirisisi ilimo imunigisha imigozi.
Aliko mu nkotanyi cg se mu bantu baliho muli 1994, 1995,..... umenya ariyo ntero,kuko hali benshi ngo barokotse ku bw,abahutu babahishe, inkotanyi zihageze ziboha abahutu batumye barokoka, abandi bakirebera hirya, haba no gutinyuka kuvuga ko baisse n,uwo balimo baboha n,akandoyi kugeza ubwo agafuni karangije agatuza.
Dusubiye i nyuma gato, Karegeya ubwo yari Directeur wa Service de renseignement extérieur, Lizinde, Sendashonga, Bugirimfura,Musabe, Uwiringiyimana, n,abandi batazwi bicwaga nka kuriya apfuye, ibi simbivuze kugirango mvuge ko nshimiye ko yishwe,oya, ahubwo nagirango mvuge ko kugira nabi bisa nk,aho Byabaye umuco nyarwanda kandi rurya abandi rutakwibagiwe. Baliya Barangije, Karegeya nawe wenda wabigizemo uruhande abagiye, n,ubimukoreye nawe niko bizagenda. None se Mbayire wakoze misiyoi Nairobi yo kwica bari ya, ntiyageze i Kigali akicwa nk,imbwa azize akabwa yari afite ngo gakubaganiye Kadogowali hafi ye y agira icyo avuga Kadogo akaba amurangirijemo chargeur y,amasasu? Kandi bigaherera aho? Officier yicwa na Kadogo amurashe bigaherera aho? Cyereka iyo ibintu ali commandité. Donc iby,iki gihe mu banyarwanda ni amayobera azatangazwan,Imana yonyine.
De: Vincent Ndacyayisenga
Envoyé: dimanche 5 janvier 2014 12:36
À: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr; Rwandalibre Group
Répondre à: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Objet: Re: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
Samuel Desire wihishe inyuma ya pseudo kubera kwanga kugira inshuti mu batutsi,  nawe Kagame aguhagaze hejuru kugirango ushimangire ko ubalizwa muli nyamwinshi?
Wipfana Ngabo nabi, ntukeneye kwulilira kubye ngo uhe urubuga ayawe mafuti, bara amafuti y'abo wibaramo, Ngabo ararengana kuko akafuti atali ni génétique, ni même éthnique, l'amitié encore moins, intambara y'ubuzima n'ukwilinda kujya ibuzimu uli muzima.(kera badutozaga no kwilinda gucumura mu bitekerezo, wigabiza ubwonko bwawe murandasi, iragutamaza!)


On Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:26:14 AM, Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Bavandimwe, Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.
 
Aguye mu buhungiro yasubiyemo. Mwabonye ko nta binyamakuru mu Rwanda byavuze iyo nkuru ,nyamara byose   biyoborwa n'abatutsi. Byerekanye ko bishigikiye iyicwa rya Karegeya cyangwa se ntabwisanzure bifite mu gutara inkuru no kwandika inkuru. Iki ni cya gitugu duhora tuvuga mu Rwanda.
Tekereza umuntu w'inshuti yawe, aragutumiye ngo musangire akayoga, wagera mu cyumba aho mugiye guhurira no kuganirira ku kirahuri, ukahasanga abantu utazi cyangwa se uzi, maze bakakuboha ari benshi, wowe udashobora kubarwanya,  bakakuboha ureba, bakakwica ureba, murumva mwe atari akaga koko.  Bwana Ngabo ati abanyarwanda ni bamwe, amoko ni amwe. Abakora ibyo ni bangahe koko.  Ni bande ?
Uwakorera ibi umuntu yita inshuti aba ari muntu ki?
Cyakora ni ibisanzwe. Mu ntambara ya FPR abahutu benshi ni uko bishwe  kandi byaragagaye ko uburyo bwo kwica bwari bumwe. Abambwira ngo abanyarwanda bafite ibyumviro bimwe barabeshya. Hari abatashobora kugira nabi ako kagene.
Sinemera ko amoko y'abanyarwanda ahemuka gutyo, yica kimwe, akoresha amayeri, methodes zo kwica ari zimwe kubera inyungu za politike cyangwa se z'amafaranga. Hari abize kwica , hari ababishoboye,  hari abo byorohera kubikora, hari n'abatabishoboye.
Ngaho aho amoko y'abanywranda atandukaniye. Ngaho mukomeze mutubeshye. Umuhutu wihandagaza ati mfite inshuti y'umututsi natekereze kabiri, gatatu, kane, gatanu. Uri mu mahanga avuga ati ndashyikirana n'abari mu Rwanda baza kunsura cynagwa se turavugana, niyongere yicare atekereze ibyabaye kuri Karegeya.







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[RwandaLibre] Fw: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry’inshi ku muryango we.

 

Nsenga,
 
Ubisobanuye neza cyane kand muri make. Byose babikora baseka: cyinisme. Uwo mwari inshuti , uwagufashije, akaba ariwe ugutanga. None se amalistes yakozwe  y'abicanyi ari hanze muri za interpols aba yarakozwe  na nde. Yakozwe n'uwo mwabanaga cyangwa se wagukijije interahamwe we akabifata ko waziyoboraga. Ngaho aho amoko atandukaniye.
 
Ni akaga kwicwa n'uwo mwasangiye, mwabanye. Umudamu wa Karegeya n'uwa Kagame ngo bajyaga muri vacances hamwe ( selon RFI). Njye ahubwo nibuza uburyo umudamu wa Kagame ashobora kugarama Kagame akajya hejuru azi ko ari umwicanyi !
 
Ninde utakwibaza ibi ? Mumbarariye ngiye kure ariko hari ibibazo byinshi twibaza kuri uwo muryango cyane cyane muri iryo yica rya Karegeya.
 
Uwo Apollo ngo yari ashinzwe no gushakira abanzungu mu Rwanda abagore nkuko RFI yabyanditse. Umuntu ukora nk'ibyo ni nk'ababandi bacuruza drogue. Ni ukumwirinda.
 
Ikindi  Karegeya n'abandi bo RNC bakomeje gusa nkaho bakora chantage ngo bazavuga ukuri ku byerekeye uwahanuye indege ya Habyara. Bananiwe ni iki gutanagaza inyandiko  hagati aho ivuga uko byagenze noneho bakazayishimangira bahuye n'abaransa bakora enqutes kuri icyo kibazo.
 
Iyo Karegeya  abwira abafaransa ati ndi menace kubera ko mfite information z'abafasha , bajyaga kumufasha cyangwa agahungirayo. Bajyaga kwita kuri securite ye mu Bufaransa. Yakomeje asa nkaho akora iterabwoba kuri Kagame ( chantage), Kagame  iryo terabwoba arikuraho.
 
 
 
 
 

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Nsenga callixte <nsengabe@yahoo.fr>
To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 14:26
Subject: Re: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
abasomye ikilatini nka Ngabo yibuke : "......tu quoique filii......" , ati " .......Koko nawe Kirisisi..... nozeraga......
Ngayo à magambo ushobora gusanga yapfuye avuga areka i nyamara Kiririsi.
Oya, uliya mugabo yapfuye agahinda pe. Buli wese yishyize mu mwanya we areka iliya Nyamara Kirisisi ilimo imunigisha imigozi.
Aliko mu nkotanyi cg se mu bantu baliho muli 1994, 1995,..... umenya ariyo ntero,kuko hali benshi ngo barokotse ku bw,abahutu babahishe, inkotanyi zihageze ziboha abahutu batumye barokoka, abandi bakirebera hirya, haba no gutinyuka kuvuga ko baisse n,uwo balimo baboha n,akandoyi kugeza ubwo agafuni karangije agatuza.
Dusubiye i nyuma gato, Karegeya ubwo yari Directeur wa Service de renseignement extérieur, Lizinde, Sendashonga, Bugirimfura,Musabe, Uwiringiyimana, n,abandi batazwi bicwaga nka kuriya apfuye, ibi simbivuze kugirango mvuge ko nshimiye ko yishwe,oya, ahubwo nagirango mvuge ko kugira nabi bisa nk,aho Byabaye umuco nyarwanda kandi rurya abandi rutakwibagiwe. Baliya Barangije, Karegeya nawe wenda wabigizemo uruhande abagiye, n,ubimukoreye nawe niko bizagenda. None se Mbayire wakoze misiyoi Nairobi yo kwica bari ya, ntiyageze i Kigali akicwa nk,imbwa azize akabwa yari afite ngo gakubaganiye Kadogowali hafi ye y agira icyo avuga Kadogo akaba amurangirijemo chargeur y,amasasu? Kandi bigaherera aho? Officier yicwa na Kadogo amurashe bigaherera aho? Cyereka iyo ibintu ali commandité. Donc iby,iki gihe mu banyarwanda ni amayobera azatangazwan,Imana yonyine.
De: Vincent Ndacyayisenga
Envoyé: dimanche 5 janvier 2014 12:36
À: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr; Rwandalibre Group
Répondre à: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Objet: Re: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
Samuel Desire wihishe inyuma ya pseudo kubera kwanga kugira inshuti mu batutsi,  nawe Kagame aguhagaze hejuru kugirango ushimangire ko ubalizwa muli nyamwinshi?
Wipfana Ngabo nabi, ntukeneye kwulilira kubye ngo uhe urubuga ayawe mafuti, bara amafuti y'abo wibaramo, Ngabo ararengana kuko akafuti atali ni génétique, ni même éthnique, l'amitié encore moins, intambara y'ubuzima n'ukwilinda kujya ibuzimu uli muzima.(kera badutozaga no kwilinda gucumura mu bitekerezo, wigabiza ubwonko bwawe murandasi, iragutamaza!)


On Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:26:14 AM, Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Bavandimwe, Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.
 
Aguye mu buhungiro yasubiyemo. Mwabonye ko nta binyamakuru mu Rwanda byavuze iyo nkuru ,nyamara byose   biyoborwa n'abatutsi. Byerekanye ko bishigikiye iyicwa rya Karegeya cyangwa se ntabwisanzure bifite mu gutara inkuru no kwandika inkuru. Iki ni cya gitugu duhora tuvuga mu Rwanda.
Tekereza umuntu w'inshuti yawe, aragutumiye ngo musangire akayoga, wagera mu cyumba aho mugiye guhurira no kuganirira ku kirahuri, ukahasanga abantu utazi cyangwa se uzi, maze bakakuboha ari benshi, wowe udashobora kubarwanya,  bakakuboha ureba, bakakwica ureba, murumva mwe atari akaga koko.  Bwana Ngabo ati abanyarwanda ni bamwe, amoko ni amwe. Abakora ibyo ni bangahe koko.  Ni bande ?
Uwakorera ibi umuntu yita inshuti aba ari muntu ki?
Cyakora ni ibisanzwe. Mu ntambara ya FPR abahutu benshi ni uko bishwe  kandi byaragagaye ko uburyo bwo kwica bwari bumwe. Abambwira ngo abanyarwanda bafite ibyumviro bimwe barabeshya. Hari abatashobora kugira nabi ako kagene.
Sinemera ko amoko y'abanyarwanda ahemuka gutyo, yica kimwe, akoresha amayeri, methodes zo kwica ari zimwe kubera inyungu za politike cyangwa se z'amafaranga. Hari abize kwica , hari ababishoboye,  hari abo byorohera kubikora, hari n'abatabishoboye.
Ngaho aho amoko y'abanywranda atandukaniye. Ngaho mukomeze mutubeshye. Umuhutu wihandagaza ati mfite inshuti y'umututsi natekereze kabiri, gatatu, kane, gatanu. Uri mu mahanga avuga ati ndashyikirana n'abari mu Rwanda baza kunsura cynagwa se turavugana, niyongere yicare atekereze ibyabaye kuri Karegeya.





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Fw: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry’inshi ku muryango we.

Nsenga,
 
Ubisobanuye neza cyane kand muri make. Byose babikora baseka: cyinisme. Uwo mwari inshuti , uwagufashije, akaba ariwe ugutanga. None se amalistes yakozwe  y'abicanyi ari hanze muri za interpols aba yarakozwe  na nde. Yakozwe n'uwo mwabanaga cyangwa se wagukijije interahamwe we akabifata ko waziyoboraga. Ngaho aho amoko atandukaniye.
 
Ni akaga kwicwa n'uwo mwasangiye, mwabanye. Umudamu wa Karegeya n'uwa Kagame ngo bajyaga muri vacances hamwe ( selon RFI). Njye ahubwo nibuza uburyo umudamu wa Kagame ashobora kugarama Kagame akajya hejuru azi ko ari umwicanyi !
 
Ninde utakwibaza ibi ? Mumbarariye ngiye kure ariko hari ibibazo byinshi twibaza kuri uwo muryango cyane cyane muri iryo yica rya Karegeya.
 
Uwo Apollo ngo yari ashinzwe no gushakira abanzungu mu Rwanda abagore nkuko RFI yabyanditse. Umuntu ukora nk'ibyo ni nk'ababandi bacuruza drogue. Ni ukumwirinda.
 
Ikindi  Karegeya n'abandi bo RNC bakomeje gusa nkaho bakora chantage ngo bazavuga ukuri ku byerekeye uwahanuye indege ya Habyara. Bananiwe ni iki gutanagaza inyandiko  hagati aho ivuga uko byagenze noneho bakazayishimangira bahuye n'abaransa bakora enqutes kuri icyo kibazo.
 
Iyo Karegeya  abwira abafaransa ati ndi menace kubera ko mfite information z'abafasha , bajyaga kumufasha cyangwa agahungirayo. Bajyaga kwita kuri securite ye mu Bufaransa. Yakomeje asa nkaho akora iterabwoba kuri Kagame ( chantage), Kagame  iryo terabwoba arikuraho.
 
 
 
 
 

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Nsenga callixte <nsengabe@yahoo.fr>
To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 14:26
Subject: Re: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
abasomye ikilatini nka Ngabo yibuke : "......tu quoique filii......" , ati " .......Koko nawe Kirisisi..... nozeraga......
Ngayo à magambo ushobora gusanga yapfuye avuga areka i nyamara Kiririsi.
Oya, uliya mugabo yapfuye agahinda pe. Buli wese yishyize mu mwanya we areka iliya Nyamara Kirisisi ilimo imunigisha imigozi.
Aliko mu nkotanyi cg se mu bantu baliho muli 1994, 1995,..... umenya ariyo ntero,kuko hali benshi ngo barokotse ku bw,abahutu babahishe, inkotanyi zihageze ziboha abahutu batumye barokoka, abandi bakirebera hirya, haba no gutinyuka kuvuga ko baisse n,uwo balimo baboha n,akandoyi kugeza ubwo agafuni karangije agatuza.
Dusubiye i nyuma gato, Karegeya ubwo yari Directeur wa Service de renseignement extérieur, Lizinde, Sendashonga, Bugirimfura,Musabe, Uwiringiyimana, n,abandi batazwi bicwaga nka kuriya apfuye, ibi simbivuze kugirango mvuge ko nshimiye ko yishwe,oya, ahubwo nagirango mvuge ko kugira nabi bisa nk,aho Byabaye umuco nyarwanda kandi rurya abandi rutakwibagiwe. Baliya Barangije, Karegeya nawe wenda wabigizemo uruhande abagiye, n,ubimukoreye nawe niko bizagenda. None se Mbayire wakoze misiyoi Nairobi yo kwica bari ya, ntiyageze i Kigali akicwa nk,imbwa azize akabwa yari afite ngo gakubaganiye Kadogowali hafi ye y agira icyo avuga Kadogo akaba amurangirijemo chargeur y,amasasu? Kandi bigaherera aho? Officier yicwa na Kadogo amurashe bigaherera aho? Cyereka iyo ibintu ali commandité. Donc iby,iki gihe mu banyarwanda ni amayobera azatangazwan,Imana yonyine.
De: Vincent Ndacyayisenga
Envoyé: dimanche 5 janvier 2014 12:36
À: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr; Rwandalibre Group
Répondre à: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Objet: Re: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
Samuel Desire wihishe inyuma ya pseudo kubera kwanga kugira inshuti mu batutsi,  nawe Kagame aguhagaze hejuru kugirango ushimangire ko ubalizwa muli nyamwinshi?
Wipfana Ngabo nabi, ntukeneye kwulilira kubye ngo uhe urubuga ayawe mafuti, bara amafuti y'abo wibaramo, Ngabo ararengana kuko akafuti atali ni génétique, ni même éthnique, l'amitié encore moins, intambara y'ubuzima n'ukwilinda kujya ibuzimu uli muzima.(kera badutozaga no kwilinda gucumura mu bitekerezo, wigabiza ubwonko bwawe murandasi, iragutamaza!)


On Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:26:14 AM, Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Bavandimwe, Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.
 
Aguye mu buhungiro yasubiyemo. Mwabonye ko nta binyamakuru mu Rwanda byavuze iyo nkuru ,nyamara byose   biyoborwa n'abatutsi. Byerekanye ko bishigikiye iyicwa rya Karegeya cyangwa se ntabwisanzure bifite mu gutara inkuru no kwandika inkuru. Iki ni cya gitugu duhora tuvuga mu Rwanda.
Tekereza umuntu w'inshuti yawe, aragutumiye ngo musangire akayoga, wagera mu cyumba aho mugiye guhurira no kuganirira ku kirahuri, ukahasanga abantu utazi cyangwa se uzi, maze bakakuboha ari benshi, wowe udashobora kubarwanya,  bakakuboha ureba, bakakwica ureba, murumva mwe atari akaga koko.  Bwana Ngabo ati abanyarwanda ni bamwe, amoko ni amwe. Abakora ibyo ni bangahe koko.  Ni bande ?
Uwakorera ibi umuntu yita inshuti aba ari muntu ki?
Cyakora ni ibisanzwe. Mu ntambara ya FPR abahutu benshi ni uko bishwe  kandi byaragagaye ko uburyo bwo kwica bwari bumwe. Abambwira ngo abanyarwanda bafite ibyumviro bimwe barabeshya. Hari abatashobora kugira nabi ako kagene.
Sinemera ko amoko y'abanyarwanda ahemuka gutyo, yica kimwe, akoresha amayeri, methodes zo kwica ari zimwe kubera inyungu za politike cyangwa se z'amafaranga. Hari abize kwica , hari ababishoboye,  hari abo byorohera kubikora, hari n'abatabishoboye.
Ngaho aho amoko y'abanywranda atandukaniye. Ngaho mukomeze mutubeshye. Umuhutu wihandagaza ati mfite inshuti y'umututsi natekereze kabiri, gatatu, kane, gatanu. Uri mu mahanga avuga ati ndashyikirana n'abari mu Rwanda baza kunsura cynagwa se turavugana, niyongere yicare atekereze ibyabaye kuri Karegeya.



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[RwandaLibre] Re: *DHR* Re: Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry’inshi ku muryango we.

 

Ikibabaje Vincent ngo nuko nanditse ko Karegeya yishwe nabi. Et Voila !Ngaho aho ikibazo kiri ! Tugomba kuvuga no kwandika ibyo bashaka gusoma no kumva.

      From: Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>
To: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; Rwandalibre Group <rwandalibre@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 13:28
Subject: Re: *DHR* Re: Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
Vincent,
 
Uravuga ibya pseudonyme, abatutsi bose barwanije  Habyarimana harimo nawe se mu myaka 5 yose bari mu ntambara cyangwa bafasha FPR na mbere y'aho hari ubwo twari tubazi ?. Twabamenye bamaze gufata ubutegetsi. N'abo bakoreshaga pseudonymes , bakihisha inyuma ya za passports za Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Ethiopia bakaza mu Rwanda kuneka no gusura abavandimwe babo. None rero ubise ibicucu ? Kagame se wari ufite passports eshanu nawe umwise igicucu ? Nyamara nta mututsi Habyarimana  yasanze mu mahanga ngo amwice nkuko mwishe Karegeya.

From: Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>
To: DHR <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; Rwandalibre Group <rwandalibre@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 13:14
Subject: *DHR* Re: Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
 
Vincent,
 
Amoko mu Rwanda aratandukanye kuko iryo tandukanyirizo ryatewe na systeme feodal twabayemo imyaka irenga 500. Bityo ubwoko bumwe busimba ubundi , bukirata ku bundi ko aribwo bushoboye, ko burusha ubundi  ubushobozi, ubwenge, buisiness,  ko ubwoko bumwe wavukanye imbuto yo gutegeka, ko bushobora kurwana kurusha ubundi, ko ubwoko bumwe ari abahinzi abandi bakaba abategetsi, abacuruzi n'ibindi. Ubwoko bumwe burimo gusumba ubundi kubera systeme ya apartheid ya Kagame iri mu nzego zose mu Rwanda.
 
Muragira ngo ibyo bikomeze bishyirwe mu bikorwa na regime ya apartheid ya Kagame maze tubiceceke. Ubwo n'ubundi buja mwadushubijemo. Ubuja bwo guceceka mwe mugakora ibyo mwishakiye.

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From: Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>
To: DHR <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 12:52
Subject: Fw: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

Vincent,
 
Sobanura neza ibyo nanditse kandi unabisenye. Nawe ushobora kuba ari mu bagambaniye Karegeya. Tuzi ko abantu nkamwe n'abandi ba FPR mwica museka. Iyo bavuga ngo umututsi ni inzoka. Baba basobanura ibyabaye kuri Karegeya. N'aho amoko atandukaniye. Tekereza  icyo twavuga  umushuti wawe agukoreye nkuko Apollo yakoreye Karegeya. Wowe urumva  twavuga iki muri icyo gihe. Habaye tragedie ni uko mubisuzugura. Niyo mpamvu tuvuga ibi byose.
 
Finallement wakwizera nde muri tactiques nkaziriya. Nta verification mfite yo kuverifia amazina yawe nyakuri niba ari pseudonyme cyangwa atariyo. Ca ne m'interesse pas.
 
Ibyo bya pseudonyme reka tubireka ni uburenganzira bwa buri muntu bwo kwiyita uko ashaka.  Hari n'uwatekereza ko Karegeya atitaye kuri securite ye akoresheje uburyo bwose bushoboka. Bumwe muri ubwo buryo narabuvuze.
 
Ibitekerezo ntibijyana n'amazina.Kagame nareka kwica abantu, ahe uburenganzira buri wese avuge icyo ashaka, abanyarwanda bakisanzura izo za pseudonymes uvuga zizavaho. Icyo nanditse vuba aha ni ukudafobya genocide kuko  abenshi tuyemera kandi ko twese yatubayeho. Tukemera ko yibasiye bamwe kurusha abandi, aha ndavuga abatutsi.
 
 
 

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From: Vincent Ndacyayisenga <rugura@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 11:35
Subject: Re: *DHR* Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.

 
Samuel Desire wihishe inyuma ya pseudo kubera kwanga kugira inshuti mu batutsi,  nawe Kagame aguhagaze hejuru kugirango ushimangire ko ubalizwa muli nyamwinshi?
Wipfana Ngabo nabi, ntukeneye kwulilira kubye ngo uhe urubuga ayawe mafuti, bara amafuti y'abo wibaramo, Ngabo ararengana kuko akafuti atali ni génétique, ni même éthnique, l'amitié encore moins, intambara y'ubuzima n'ukwilinda kujya ibuzimu uli muzima.(kera badutozaga no kwilinda gucumura mu bitekerezo, wigabiza ubwonko bwawe murandasi, iragutamaza!)


On Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:26:14 AM, Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Bavandimwe, Karageya yishwe nabi bikabije, asize ishavu ry'inshi ku muryango we.
 
Aguye mu buhungiro yasubiyemo. Mwabonye ko nta binyamakuru mu Rwanda byavuze iyo nkuru ,nyamara byose   biyoborwa n'abatutsi. Byerekanye ko bishigikiye iyicwa rya Karegeya cyangwa se ntabwisanzure bifite mu gutara inkuru no kwandika inkuru. Iki ni cya gitugu duhora tuvuga mu Rwanda.
Tekereza umuntu w'inshuti yawe, aragutumiye ngo musangire akayoga, wagera mu cyumba aho mugiye guhurira no kuganirira ku kirahuri, ukahasanga abantu utazi cyangwa se uzi, maze bakakuboha ari benshi, wowe udashobora kubarwanya,  bakakuboha ureba, bakakwica ureba, murumva mwe atari akaga koko.  Bwana Ngabo ati abanyarwanda ni bamwe, amoko ni amwe. Abakora ibyo ni bangahe koko.  Ni bande ?
Uwakorera ibi umuntu yita inshuti aba ari muntu ki?
Cyakora ni ibisanzwe. Mu ntambara ya FPR abahutu benshi ni uko bishwe  kandi byaragagaye ko uburyo bwo kwica bwari bumwe. Abambwira ngo abanyarwanda bafite ibyumviro bimwe barabeshya. Hari abatashobora kugira nabi ako kagene.
Sinemera ko amoko y'abanyarwanda ahemuka gutyo, yica kimwe, akoresha amayeri, methodes zo kwica ari zimwe kubera inyungu za politike cyangwa se z'amafaranga. Hari abize kwica , hari ababishoboye,  hari abo byorohera kubikora, hari n'abatabishoboye.
Ngaho aho amoko y'abanywranda atandukaniye. Ngaho mukomeze mutubeshye. Umuhutu wihandagaza ati mfite inshuti y'umututsi natekereze kabiri, gatatu, kane, gatanu. Uri mu mahanga avuga ati ndashyikirana n'abari mu Rwanda baza kunsura cynagwa se turavugana, niyongere yicare atekereze ibyabaye kuri Karegeya.














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