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'Under no circumstances' clause is inviolable

On Rwanda's presidential terms limit in the 2003 constitution

Charles KM Kambanda

2015-03-25, Issue 719

http://pambazuka.org/en/category/features/94279

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There is no legal instrument or method to circumvent the presidential terms limit under Article 101 of Rwanda's constitution, save for a coup which would suspend or abrogate the constitution in its entirety. By the letter and spirit of the 2003 constitution, while the length of a presidential term may be decreased or increased from the current seven years, the two terms limit cannot be legally lifted.

A systematic move to drop presidential terms limit to allow the incumbent Paul Kagame to run for the same office after his two constitutional terms expire in 2017 has gained momentum in Rwanda. Top Kagame regime officials are on a crusade to 'popularize' dropping terms limit from the constitution arguing that no Rwandan but Kagame is capable of leading the country. It appears the Kagame regime wants to give an impression that 'the people' are begging Kagame to stay in power, yet the people passed their verdict in the 2003 constitution, Article 101, that 'Under no circumstances shall a person hold the office of President of Republic for more than two terms'. 

WRONG ARGUMENT, SELFISH MOTIVE

The gist of the Kagame regime argument is that 'the people' have powers to change any provision of the constitution at any time 'the people' believe a provision, or a combination of provisions, in the constitution has/have been overtaken by events. The common stanza in Kagame's camp is that no Rwandan is capable of leading the country; Kagame cannot go just because the constitution dictates so. The constitution must be amended to save Kagame for the country's First Office. 

It appears to me that the First Office is Kagame's shield from prosecution for his alleged crimes of international concern in Rwanda and in DR Congo. In addition, Kagame has allegedly butchered both the Hutu and Tutsi way too much that he believes – and rightly so – that no Rwandan, Hutu, Tutsi or otherwise, would take power and keep him as a free man. Kagame has harassed, tormented and incapacitated his predecessor, President Bizimungu. President Kagame probably fears that if he leaves the First Office, his successor will treat him in the same way he has treated his predecessor. It is evident that the Presidency is to President Kagame what water is for fish in the pond. Kagame will probably stop at nothing to hold on to power as long as it is possible for him to hold on to power. Kagame took power by the gun and he rules by the gun. It is obvious that his preoccupation is not rule of law. 

It is my submission that regarding presidential terms limit, under Rwanda's constitution, Kagame has only two options: either to abide by the Article 101 provision that 'Under no circumstances shall a person hold the office of President of the Republic for more than two terms', or overthrow the constitution and his government, which would allow him to write a new constitution. 

STRATEGY TO OVERTHROW THE CONSTITUTION

Article 101 of Rwanda's constitution provides that: 'The President of the Republic is elected for a term of seven years renewable only once. Under no circumstances shall a person hold the office of President of the Republic for more than two terms'. This constitutional provision is categorical on three major things:

(a) No circumstance – external or internal, political or social, present or future by any institution or individual - may be the basis for allowing any person to be president if that person has served two terms. Clearly stated, no amendment to this provision is possible because any reason or ground to amend the two terms cap under Article 101 would amount to 'circumstances' hence triggering the 'under no circumstance' clause of Article 101.  

(b) Whether one serves two presidential terms uninterrupted or interrupted, two terms is the cut-off point; no person can hold that office beyond two terms under the 2003 Rwanda constitution.

(c) Serving more than two terms is as prohibited as amending Article 101. Consequently, as long as the 2003 constitution is in force, no circumstance – including 'the people's' zeal to keep Kagame - is permitted to modify this provision. 

ARTICLE 101 CANNOT BE AMENDED USING ARTICLE 193

Article 193 provides that: 'The power to initiate amendment of the Constitution is vested concurrently in the President of the Republic upon the proposal of the Cabinet and each Chamber of Parliament upon a resolution passed by a two-thirds majority vote of its members. The passage of a constitutional amendment requires a three quarters majority vote of the members of each chamber of Parliament. However, if the constitutional amendment concerns the term of the President of the Republic or the system of democratic government based on political pluralism, or the constitutional regime established by this Constitution especially the republican form of the government or national sovereignty, the amendment must be passed by referendum, after adoption by each Chamber of Parliament…' Apparently, the Kagame regime wrongly believes that the constitutional amendment procedure under Article 193, including a referendum, applies to Article 101 on presidential terms limit as well. 

Articles 101 and 193 of Rwandan constitution are distinguishable. First, Article 101 has two distinct parts (sections). The first part deals with the number of years each term lasts: 'The President of the Republic is elected for a term of seven years renewable only once'. This part is clearly amendable under Article 193 because Article 193 provides that, 'The power to initiate amendment of the Constitution is vested concurrently in the President of the Republic upon the proposal of the Cabinet and each Chamber of Parliament […] However, if the constitutional amendment concerns the term of the President of the Republic or … the amendment must be passed by referendum, after adoption by each Chamber of Parliament…'. The second part (section) of Article 101 deals with the number of terms a person can be in office, thus, 'Under no circumstances shall a person hold the office of President of Republic for more than two terms'. Therefore while Article 193, which provides for the 2003 constitution amendment procedure, provides for amendment to the number of years per presidential term, Article 193 does not tamper with the presidential terms limits (the two terms) because Article 101 itself sealed off presidential terms limit from amendment with the "under no circumstance…" clause as long as the 2003 constitution is in force. In Article 193, like Article 101, the word term (singular form) refers to the number of years per presidential term while the word terms (plural form) refers to the number of terms a person can be a president. 

Second, whereas under Article 193 the president and parliament may initiate an amendment to the constitution, Article 101's 'under no circumstance' clause prevents the president or parliament from initiating amendment to Article 101 section on presidential terms limit because any reason(s) and/or circumstance(s) for such amendment would trigger Article 101 'under no circumstances …' clause. 

Third, whereas Article 193 provides for amendment of other provisions of the constitution for the constitution to adopt to changing circumstances, using any circumstance thereof would be inconsistent with Article 101 'under no circumstance' clause. Consequently, any law that seeks to amend Article 101 to reflect changing circumstances (political or social) - to the extent that it is inconsistent with Article 101 'under no circumstance' clause - is null and void under Article 200 of Rwanda's constitution, which provides that: 'The Constitution is the supreme law of the State. Any law which is contrary to this Constitution is null and void'. 

REFERENDUM TO AMEND SECTION ON TERMS LIMIT WOULD BE ILLEGAL AND A NULLITY

Article 101 of Rwanda's constitution cannot be amended by referendum because such a referendum or circumstance leading to it would amount to circumstance which Article 101's 'under no circumstance …' clause prohibits. 

A referendum on Rwanda's constitution is provided for to amend, inter alia, the number of years one presidential term can last as provided for under Article 193: '… if the constitutional amendment concerns the term of the President of the Republic or the system of democratic government based on political pluralism, […] the amendment must be passed by referendum, after adoption by each Chamber of Parliament…'. 

Therefore, while one presidential term can be increased or decreased to any number by referendum, the two presidential terms limit under Article 101 can never be changed under the 2003 constitution because 'Under no circumstances shall a person hold the office of President of Republic for more than two terms'.

Article 193 of Rwanda's constitution is wrongly cited by the Kagame government as the basis for overriding Article 101 which slaps a complete ban on a person's stay in power after serving two terms. The Kagame government's appreciation of the two articles of the country's constitution is erroneous because the two articles address different issues. There is no inconsistence between Article 101 and Article 193. In any case, the framers of Rwanda's constitution could not have intended that one article of the constitution invalidates another provision of the same constitution.

Article 101 of Rwanda's constitution cannot be amended. The framers of Rwanda's constitution worded the article in such a way that any reason or circumstance anybody or a group of people might have against the presidential terms limit cannot be used to amend Article 101 because the article foresaw all those possible 'reasons' and circumstances and concluded that 'under no circumstance…' and, accordingly, Article 200 puts it clearly that any law or act to tamper with Article 101 or any other provision of the constitution is null and void. 

The intention of the framers of the 2003 Rwanda constitution in sealing off presidential terms limit from amendment was to make sure that no Rwandan is president for an indefinite period of time and, possibly, for life. Rwandans are aware of the dangers of one group of people holding on to power indefinitely. Rwandan's political history is characterized by extreme violence and militant rulers loading it over their subjects indefinitely. This has always led to wars and horrific crimes. 

* Charles KM Kambanda, PhD, is Attorney and Counsel-at-law, New York, US.

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Monday, 30 March 2015

[amakurunamateka.com] FW: Qui sont ces milices hutus qui menacent le Yemen?

 

Yewe Bwana Gerard Rwagasana, aha ugize neza cyane kuko werekanye ko umuco mwiza w'abarezi benshi b'inyangamugayo bakubanjilije nka ba Prof Muswahili, Ruhashyankiko, Balibutsa, Gasana (A.), Ndoreyaho, Karenzi, Katabarwa (J.B), Mbarutso,  n'abandi wawufashe igihe wabarebaga barera. Nibyo rwose gucyamura ibibondo biliho bihohwa: ntabwo rwose ali Joking,  ni uburenganzira bwawe nkuko wabirazwe n'abakuboneye izuba. Ahubwo dusabe aba buzukuru bacu urera nabo bazakure maze bagere ku bwitonzi n'ubushishozi nk'ubu bwawe, bave mu byontazi,  maze nabo bazashobore kurera neza abuzukuruza bacu!

Uburezi nyabwo ntibujya burangira, buhoraho uko ibisekuru bisimburana! 


       


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Ahari hu (hou) hose si hutu ! Baraguhahamuye?!!! Im joking!
 
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On Thursday, 26 March 2015, 5:15, Didy Minani <didyminani@yahoo.com> wrote:


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Sunday, 29 March 2015

[amakurunamateka.com] Rwanda : Ku byerekeye manda ntarengwa za prezida mw’itegekonshinga ryo muri 2003 nk’uko ryahinduwe--Dr. Charles Kambanda

 

Dr. Charles Kambanda: Ku byerekeye manda ntarengwa za prezida mw'itegekonshinga ryo muri 2003 nk'uko ryahinduwe


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[amakurunamateka.com] Re: Rwanda’s political future: King Paul- A successful man with no successor

 

Some interesting comments @


On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Aimable Mugara aimable59@hotmail.com [RAYA-Network] <RAYA-Network@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Too much praise for the beast Kagame and very little reality in this article. I expected better from The Economist considering their previous coverage of issues in the Great Lakes Region of Africa.

Aimable Mugara


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And yet in one important respect he [King Paul] has failed. In history's judgment, leaders are only as good as the successors they groom. Mr Kagame has sacked or chased away just about everyone around him who could take over. Some have fled the country and a few have died in mysterious circumstances; others went to prison. In Rwanda it feels inconceivable that anyone could replace Mr Kagame, who last year said that dissidents plotting against the government would "pay the price wherever they are."
http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21647365-successful-man-no-successor-king-paul


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Saturday, 28 March 2015

[amakurunamateka.com] Re: La révision de la constitution rwandaise

 

Nyabuna nimusige ho Kagame n'abambari be batabumva bagatangira kwitera ho za grenades, gutwika amagorofa no gusenya amateme hirya no hino babeshya ko batewe...!

Guteza umutekano muke mu gihugu ni yo mpamvu yonyine ifatika iriya ngoma isigaranye ngo Kagame abashe kuguma ku butegetsi yemye (ataniriwe yitoza) kubera ko ibyo guhindura itegeko nshinga ngo yitoze azi neza ko bizamukururira amahane yatuma n'iyo ntambara simusiga koko iba ngombwa kubera ko biramutse bigenze gutyo ( Kagame ahinduye itegeko nshinga agamije kwitoza ubwa gatatu) abanyarwanda bose baba abo mu gihugu cg abo hanze bafite uburenganzira busesuye bwo gufata intwaro bagamije kwigobotora ingoma y'igitugu yigize intumva (nk'uko Inkotanyi zabigenje muri 1990 amahanga yose agahumiriza...!).

Guteza umutekano muke bidhobora gutuma Kagame avuga ko mu gihe nta mahoro ari mu gihugu nta matora ashobora kuba, ko ndetse no gufungura urubuga rwa politiki bidashoboka. Ibi byatuma Kagame akomeza gushokora ho nta nkomyi ariko akabikora azi neza ko iminsi ye ibaze.

Kuba kugeza ubu Kagame aterura ngo avuge icyo atekereza (mu buryo butaziguguye) kuri mandat ya gatatu, akareka inkomamashyi ze zigahiririra zinashuka abaturage, ni ukubera ko na we ubwe atazi neza uko ejo hazababa hameze.

Ibi bintu Bwana Sema Kweli yabikomoje ho ( mboneye ho umwanya wobkumudhimira) mu nyandiko ye yasubizaga iya Zac Biampa, ubwo yagiraga ati:

"...Amatora ntawuzi uko bizagenda i Burundi muri Congo kin na Uganda. Mbere yuko mu Rwanda se met à nu pour battre les cartes . 
Bose barategereje. Bose pour des raisons différentes zinyuranye bafashe FDLR nk'amata y'abashyitsi. Buri wese ni Bwenge naguhenze Kibuye naguhuye. 
Nicyo gituma benshi batinjira muri iyi débat yo guhindura itegeko nshinga. Le MOMENT est plus important que l'action même. 
Bibaye kare ça peut être humiliant haramutse haje izindi événements imprévisibles."

On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:10 PM, 'J.C. Tuvugishukuri' psj_survivors@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 

"il y aura à 99% la guerre civile avant 2017" => Gérard Rusteid
Mon cher Gérard,
Toutes les conditions sont réunies. The majority of Rwandans are Narrowing down their choices taking into account of the current situation and their life-experience.
Wait & C.


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It doesn't depend on you whether or not I exist. If you don't like me, don't accept my invitation and don't invite me to come and see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on my side, I will bury you.
Jean-Christophe, Utrecht,April 3rd, 2004.
Nothing but Human rights. We Will Win ! 
 



From: "Gerard rusteid@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
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il y aura à 99% la guerre civile avant 2017
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En date de : Jeu 26.3.15, Lyarahoze Samuel lyar66@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :

Objet: Re: *DHR* Re: [Lyarahoze] La révision de la constitution rwandaise
À: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>, "oliviernduhungirehe@yahoo.fr" <oliviernduhungirehe@yahoo.fr>, "Maître TWAGIRAMUNGU Innocent" <innocent_twagiramungu@yahoo.fr>, "Eric Nduwayezu" <nduwayezu_eric@yahoo.fr>, "Bady Banga" <badybanga56@yahoo.com>, "rwagasana gerard" <gerwaga@yahoo.com>, "Veronika Kirimumpuzu" <veronika_kirimumpuzu@yahoo.com>, "arthur.asiimwe@gmail.com" <arthur.asiimwe@gmail.com>, "ivan.mugisha@newtimes.co.rw" <ivan.mugisha@newtimes.co.rw>, "info@igihe.com" <info@igihe.com>
Date: Jeudi 26 mars 2015, 19h18


 









Cher
Oliver,
1. Pour
la monarchie, j'ai bien précisé Kigeli V Ndahindurwa:
le monarchie est héréditaire. Constitutionnellement Kagame
ne peut pas être roi. S'il était un des héritiers du
trône, il aurait déjà envoyé un commando pour assassiner
Kigeli pour le remplacer. Et à 100% actuellement, il devait
être un roi du Rwanda. Tu sais aussi qu'à 100 % il
n'est ni républicain, ni démocrate.Tu sais en fin
qu'il a la force suffisante pour çà. Il le souhaite
ardemment mais malheureusement pour lui, c'est un
Umwega...

Comprends
bien ceci: 75 % des tutsis aimeraient que leur roi rentre.
D'ailleurs il y a un parti politique qui milite pour
ça.
2.
J'ai parlé de l'annexion du Kivu par le Rwanda.
Président Bizimungu de son temps en a parlé. Paul Kagame
en a fait allusion dans l'un de ses discours. Et les US
ont confirmé la permission d'annexer une partie de la
RDC:
L'ambassadeur
Herman Cohen parle de l'Afrique et du Congo sur Code
243
       L'ambassadeur
Herman Cohen parle de l'Afrique et du
C...Afficher
sur www.youtube.comAperçu
par Yahoo Moi, en
tant que rwandais, si notre pays est agrandi çà me plaira.
N'est-ce pas ce là de l' intégrité du territoire
... en question?
3.
J'ai parlé aussi  du multipartisme. Sincèrement sous
le "multipartisme de Kagame" où tous les hutus,
85% de la population, sont appelés
"génocidaires" et partant esclaves, où tous les
francophones tutsis sont des sous-citoyens... et où les
ministres sont traités comme les serviteurs de maison, je
l'affirme: 90 % de rwandais aimerez croupir sous la
direction du MRND.
4.
J'ai dit et je le redis. Ce qui a
guidé les rédacteurs de la constitution... c'est
encore la guerre civile et le génocide au Rwanda qu'il
faut, à tout prix, même la vie de Kagame, éviter. Les
autres situations sont tolérables. Mais,
mais... si Kagame prend par la force, qu'il a, le 3e
mandat de 7 ans, il y aura à 99% la guerre civile vers la
fin de ce 3e mandat; et probablement le génocide, ou des
Abega contre les Abanyiginya ou des Abanyiginya contre les
Abega aura lieu. L'histoire se répète: RUCUNSHU II est
proche.

Kagame
vient de rater Kayumba Nyamwasa quatre fois. Kayumba ne le
ratera pas! Absolument. La suite ... une catastrophe
inimaginable. C'est inévitable!Sais-tu
que les uns s'entrainent déjà?
De
grâce, épargnez-nous, nous ne voulons pas encore la guerre
au Rwanda. Le génocide? Oya mama!!!!
Cher,
as-tu imaginé que Kizito Mihigo aurait voulu la tête de
votre divin président? Que la famille Rwigara osera...? Le
volcan va bientôt vomir. Faites, je veux dire votre
agatsiko, très très très  attention, sinon...!






Le Jeudi 26 mars 2015 0h04, "Olivier
Nduhungirehe oliviernduhungirehe@yahoo.fr
[Democracy_Human_Rights]"
<Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :



 









Lyarahoze Samuel,  Très franchement, votre message
m'a fait sourire, pour ne pas dire plus! En
effet, vous essayez de nous faire l'exposé des motifs
de l'article 101 de la
Constitution, comme s'il avait été rédigé par
l'opposition elle-même ! Je
rappelle ici, au cas où vous l'auriez oublié, que la
Constitution du 4 juin
2003 a été élaborée par la Commission Juridique et
Constitutionnelle, alors dirigée
par Tito Rutaremara.  Ceci dit, revenons sur vos
observations.  Vous commencez en nous expliquant
que la Constitution voulait, en utilisant
l'expression « mandat
présidentiel »,
simplement dire la durée
du mandat
présidentiel, autrement dit le nombre
d'années
qui composent chaque mandat. Cette affirmation-ci est
juridiquement incorrecte.  En effet, l'article 193 alinéa
3 commence comme suit : « Toutefois, lorsque la révision
porte
sur
le mandat du Président de la République
[…] ». Or l'article 101 de la
Constitution, qui porte sur le
mandat présidentiel, régit trois aspects distincts de ce
mandat : (1) la durée du mandat ; (2) le renouvellement
immédiat de
ce mandat après deux mandats consécutifs, et enfin (3) le
nombre total de
mandats, consécutifs ou non, qui peuvent être exercés par
le Président de la
République.  Et l'article
193 alinéa 3 de la Constitution vise chacun des trois
aspects du mandat présidentiel, tels que
contenus dans l'article 101 .    Par ailleurs, vous écrivez ceci : « Sans aller
trop loin, ce que ceux qui ont
rédigé la Constitution ne
voulaient du tout plus au Rwanda c'est la
guerre civile et les génocides. Les autres situations,
la monarchie, le
monopartisme, annexer le Kivu, ... sont
tolérables et d'ailleurs bcp de
rwandais les souhaitent mais nul ne souhaite le
génocide ».   Très franchement, cet argument-ci est
ridicule et même contradictoire ! Premièrement, vous
semblez savoir les
motifs exacts du pouvoir constituant lors de la rédaction
de l'article 193,
mais vous ne pouvez bien sûr produire aucune source de ce
que vous avancez.   Deuxièmement, vous affirmez que la levée de
la limite des mandats présidentiels pourrait replonger le
Rwanda « dans la
guerre civile et les génocides »
mais que l'instauration d'une monarchie absolue, la
suppression du
multipartisme et la cession d'une partie du territoire
rwandais (visés par
l'article 193 alinéa 3) « sont
tolérables » ! Really ? En d'autres termes, vous
nous dîtes
que si le peuple rwandais permettait au Président Kagame de
passer sous le
suffrage populaire une troisième fois, sans limite de
mandats, ce serait le
retour de « la
guerre civile et le génocide »
au Rwanda ; mais que si le même peuple rwandais
déciderait de proclamer le
Président Kagame « Roi du
Rwanda »
tout en supprimant le multipartisme, ce sera là… « tolérable » !
 De mémoire, je n'ai jamais lu sur ces fora
une affirmation aussi stupide que
celle-ci !  Heureusement que le ridicule ne tue
pas !  Rwemalika
Théoneste       Le
Mercredi 25 mars 2015 16h38, "Lyarahoze Samuel
lyar66@yahoo.fr
[Democracy_Human_Rights]"
<Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a
écrit :   C'est rigolo quand le représentant
adjoint du Rwanda à l'ONU ne comprend pas la
Constitution de son pays!



L'actualité nous oblige:



"Article 101 Le Président de la République est
élu pour un mandat de sept ans renouvelable une seule
fois. En aucun cas, nul ne
peut exercer plus de deux mandats
présidentiels.  Article 193 (....)
al 3: Toutefois, lorsque la révision
porte sur le mandat du Président de la République, sur la démocratie pluraliste
ou sur la nature du
régime constitutionnel notamment la forme républicaine de
l'État et l'intégrité
du territoire national, elle doit être approuvée par
référendum, après son
adoption par chaque Chambre du Parlement. Aucun projet de
révision du présent
article ne peut être recevable"    COMMENTAIRE
 Toute personne, même celle qui ne
connaît rien en droit, sera ébahie d'entendre Olivier
Nduhungirihe, via
Rwemerika Theoneste, affirmer que l'article 101 de la
Constitution rwandaise
peut être modifié pour permettre à Kagame de briguer un
3e mandat présidentiel
car, selon lui, l'al. 3  de l'art 193 le
prévoit.
 Quatre remarques s'imposent ici:
 1. Il me semble que que Mr Olivier
Nduhungirihe ne comprend pas l'expression "le
mandat présidentiel" 
de l'art 193 qui signifie la durée, le nombre
d'années qu'un mandat
présidentiel peut durer. Ici, la révision  sur le nombre
d'années d'un
mandat est possible. Il le confond alors avec le nombre de
mandats que l'art 101 limite
absolument à 2.Donc ce que Kagame peut faire,
constitutionnellement, c'est l'augmentation ou la
réduction du nombre d'années
qu'un mandat présidentiel dure, soit de 7ans à 4, 5,
6, 8, à 10 ans et s'il le
veut même à 100 ans . Mais il ne peut, en aucun cas, exercer
plus de 2 mandats présidentiels.




 2. Rwemarika pense que si la
révision sur "démocratie
pluraliste ou sur la nature du régime
constitutionnel notamment la forme républicaine de
l'État et l'intégrité du
territoire national" est possible rien ne peut
empêcher que le nombre
de mandats soit aussi révisé. Il se trompe car,
"l'esprit de la
constitution rwandaise" c'est l'histoire
récente de notre pays, à savoir la guerre
civile, le génocide, la possibilité de l'élargissement du
territoire rwandais vers la RDC et
le roi Kigeli V Ndahundurwa qui est encore à l'exil.
Sans aller trop loin, ce
que ceux qui ont rédigé la Constitution ne voulaient du tout plus au
Rwanda c'est la guerre civile et les génocides. Les
autres situations, la
monarchie, le monopartisme, annexer le Kivu, ... sont
tolérables et d'ailleurs
bcp de rwandais les souhaitent mais nul ne souhaite le
génocide. 
 Or, si le nombre de
mandats de
Kagame sont renouvelés, il y aura à 99% la guerre civile
et encore les
génocides au Rwanda. Ce que les constituants, probablement
sur conseils des
Blancs, US, ne voulaient plus au Rwanda.
 NB. Il ne s'agirait pas nécessairement de
guerre civile
Hutus contre les Tutsis mais, à plus de 80%, une guerre des
Tutsis (=les
Abanyiginya) contre les Tutsi (= les Abega). Les Tutsis sont
plus mécontents
que les Hutus génocidés qui sont politiquement
nuls!
  3. Lart. 193 al 4 est bien
claire. Il interdit carrément la révision de l'art.
193 qui lui aussi permet
exclusivement de changer la durée d'un mandat
présidentiel et pas du tout le
nombre de mandats présidentiels de l'art
101.Comme l'a écrit Charles Kambanda,
ces deux articles sont distincts, 101 parle du nombre de
mandats et 193 de la
durée d'un mandat. Ils ne se contredisent pas du tout.
Ils se complètent.
 4. Vu que aucune révision de la
constitution actuelle pour permettre à Mr Kagame de briguer
un troisième mandat
présidentiel n'est possible, il lui reste l'option
d'un coup-d-état
constitutionnel. Mais compte tenu des crimes graves qui lui
sont imputables, sa
vie dépend exclusivement du fauteuil présidentiel.
Donc à 100% il fera ce
coup-d-état constitutionnel.
 5. Ce que l'opposition doit faire
dès maintenant c'est commencer à chercher les soutiens
internationaux et les autres moyens de force capables de lui ôter forcement de ce fauteuil
immunisant. Sinon
Kagame sera un président à vie.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     











































































































































































 






















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-The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
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FPR NA KAGAME BARASHUKA ABANYARWANDA KO BAFITE URUFUNGUZO RW'ITEGEKO NSHINGA 03/27/2015 by Radio Itahuka 


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[amakurunamateka.com] Rwanda’s political future: King Paul- A successful man with no successor

 

And yet in one important respect he [King Paul] has failed. In history's judgment, leaders are only as good as the successors they groom. Mr Kagame has sacked or chased away just about everyone around him who could take over. Some have fled the country and a few have died in mysterious circumstances; others went to prison. In Rwanda it feels inconceivable that anyone could replace Mr Kagame, who last year said that dissidents plotting against the government would "pay the price wherever they are."
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"Ce dont j’ai le plus peur, c’est des gens qui croient que, du jour au lendemain, on peut prendre une société, lui tordre le cou et en faire une autre."

“The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

“The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.”

“I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile."

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