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[amakurunamateka.com] The Rwanda’s Untold Story: BBC is right to reject the complaint from Kagame’s consultants about Rwanda genocide documentary.

 

The Rwanda's Untold Story:
BBC is right to reject the complaint from Kagame's consultants  about Rwanda genocide documentary.
 
1.These people who are complaining  about the BBC 's documentary  are former and current Kagame's consultants . Some of them are  selling books that they wrote about Rwanda genocide. That money from the sale of  these books and publications should be  given to Rwandan genocide survivals, both Hutu and Tutsi. These people are complaining to keep ongoing the sale of their books which were written with the financial support from Kagame and to present Kagame's one version of the Rwandan genocide.
 
2. BBC was right to present  the views that are different from Kagame's views about the Rwandan genocide. In fact, most of the views presented in the documentary are in the public domain and can be found  by searching the Internet. What BBC did is just  putting them together in one  documentary.
 
3.We do not know why Kagame has not yet created a national commission to investigate these different  contradictory views about Rwandan genocide, which  are available online as he did about the BBC's documentary. We do not know why these Kagame's consultants have not yet complained  to Google or other search engines where  the public can read these contradictory views about the Rwandan genocide.
 
4. The BBC was right to present the  views of Rwandan people  without any discrimination. We all know that the entire  Rwandan media is controlled by Kagame.  The people interviewed by BBC are currently marginalised in Rwandan political, economic and social life.   They has no means to present their opinions about what happened to all Rwandan people, Hutu and Tutsi.  These are refugees, Rwandan Diaspora, politicians, academics  and  scholars who do not  agree with the views of Kagame' consultants who have made this complaint.
 
5. While these so-called scholars accuse regularly African people and their leaders of  corruption, the  interventions of these consultants against the BBC documentary show how the White man and woman also are corrupt too. When they criticise African people, these scholars seem to suggest that they don't care about money and that only African people need money. Without the money paid  to them by Kagame, they would not make such ridiculous, biased  and childish complaint against BBC.
 
6. We thank very much BBC  for having  facilitated the dialogue and  freedom of expression about Rwandan genocide, Kagame's massive massacres of Hutu in DRC and other neighbouring countries,  racial and economic apartheid that  is now well established  in the country. The Rwandan's Untold Story is an inclusive documentary that no one interested in Rwanda's should not miss to watch.
 
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The BBC's editorial complaints unit has rejected a complaint about a controversial documentary on Rwanda that questioned official accounts of the 1994 genocide.
The group of scholars, scientists, researchers, journalists and historians who made the complaint now plan to appeal to the BBC Trust over the decision.
Rwanda's Untold Story, broadcast on 1 October 2014, sparked controversy by suggesting President Paul Kagame may have had a hand in the shooting-down of his predecessor's plane, which triggered the mass killings.
It also quoted US researchers who suggested that many of the more than 800,000 Rwandans who died in the 1994 genocide may have been ethnic Hutus, and not Tutsis as the government maintains.
Kagame accused the BBC of "genocide denial" in the documentary, which he said had chosen to "tarnish Rwandans, dehumanise them". The corporation emphatically rejected the claims.
 
 
 

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[amakurunamateka.com] Kagame akomeje kwigiza nkana nkaho abandi batabona.

 

Kagame akomeje kwigiza nkana nkaho abandi batabona.
 
Kagame n'abamukorera bose bati Francois  Hollande ntacyo akora ku  bibazo dufite. Ati Sarkozy we hari icyo yakoze.
Kugeza ubu  nta kintu kigaragara Sarkozy na  Kagame bakoze barusha Francois Hollande. Ntabwo tubona icyo Kagame we yakoze uretse kwirukana abafaransa n'ibyabo byose, guhanagura igifaransa mu Rwandano no kubuza abanyarwanda gukoresha igifaransa n'ibindi ntarondoye.  Yongeraho no kwica abafaransa bari mu Rwanda. Kagame ati ibyo byose mu byibagiwe, mwite ku bibazo byanjye bijyana ni uko nashoye abanyarwanda mu bwicanyi mbizi kandi nzi ingaruka zabyo.

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[amakurunamateka.com] Fw: *DHR* La déclassification des archives ( Pour Mr NGOGA)

 

L'interview est ridicule. La declassification des documents et la demande des excuses ne sont pas deux choses qui peuvent remplacer l'une ou l'autre

On Thursday, 9 April 2015, 9:18, "Shankuru Maurice m_shankuru3000@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:


 
Monsieur NGOGA,
Vous n'avez pas compris mon raisonnement. Après la citation en italique, voici ce que j'ai écrit.
"Que des questions orientées et des réponses évidentes. Lorsque l'on connait l'implication des USA, de la grande Bretagne et de la Belgique dans la chasse aux Hutus et à la position de la France en Afrique.... Cette interview? Foutaise! " Je réagissais donc à cette interview "bidon" d'un historien que nous a postée Claudine Vidal.
 
Moi, personnellement , ces pays qui sont allés verser leurs larmes de crocodile ne m'intéressent pas. Les Américains, les Anglais et les Belges ont fait pire au peuple rwandais que les Français (accusés à tort). Malheureusement les Français ne se sont pas défendus. Ils ont attendu que le temps, ce long temps joue à leur faveur.
 
La déclassification des archives va permettre de connaitre la vraie vérité. Sauf que les accusateurs de la France vont contester cette vérité en disant que les archives déclassifiés ne sont pas suffisants. Jeune à Fric  a commencé déjà.  Non NGONGA, vous avez mal compris mon raisonnement.
 



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[amakurunamateka.com] Relations France-Rwanda

 

Relations France-Rwanda
 
Le Rwanda compare Francois Hollande a Sarkozy en disant que Sarkozy a pu faire quelque chose pour améliorer les relations entre le Rwanda et la France. Mais on ne voit pas exactement  les résultats de Sarkozy et de Kagamé en ce qui concerne l'amélioration de ces relations. Ce qu'a fait Sarkozy et de se mêler et influencer la justice française en ce qui concerne le dossier rwandais alors que Francois Hollande laisse la justice travailler indépendamment.  Kagame le sait et c'est pourquoi il  l'a récemment visité Sarkozy.
 
Cela n'est qu'un petit exemple d'un Chef d'Etat ( M. Sarkozy ) qui n'est pas différent des autres chefs d'Etats considérés comme dictateurs. Le retour de Sarkozy comme Président en France ne sera qu'un retour en arrière en France.
 

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[amakurunamateka.com] Rwanda:à qui profite la déclassification des archives du génocide?

 

Meme si tous les dossiers de tous les departements francais sont declassifies, il y aura toujours des gens pour dire que le tout n'a pas ete declassifie simplement pour continuer de faire la propagande contre la France. Il y a en tout cas, ceux qui gagnent leur vie a cause de cela. Cette propagande est devenue un metier pour certains.

La France fait des gestes  visibles et tangibles. Mais qu'a fait le Rwanda  a part fermer  l'Ambassade de France au Rwanda, expulser les Francais et abolir l'usage de la langue francaise au Rwanda?

 





C'est un pas historique que vient de franchir la présidence française en annonçant, le 7 avril, la déclassification des archives sur le Rwanda de 1990 à 1995 et donc sur le génocide des Tutsis en 1994. La symbolique est forte, en raison notamment du choix du jour pour l'annonce  de la commémoration du 21e anniversaire du génocide des Tutsis au Rwanda. Une décision qui a été, dans l'ensemble, bien accueillie par le peuple rwandais, en ce sens que ces archives permettront d'en savoir davantage sur le drame rwandais et de savoir si la France a vraiment armé et entraîné les milices génocidaires Interahamwe [Hutus], comme on l'accuse de l'avoir fait. Toutefois, le scepticisme reste de mise quant à la volonté de la France de permettre une réelle manifestation de la vérité.
En effet, il est à craindre que des documents cruciaux ne soient épargnés par cette déclassification ou tout simplement vidé de certains aspects sensibles de leur contenu. On se demande si la France, qui fait les yeux doux au Rwanda après plusieurs années de brouille, n'entend pas par la déclassification de ces archives amener Kigali à adoucir sa posture vis-à-vis de Paris. En tout état de cause,  la question est de savoir à qui profitera cette déclassification...









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[amakurunamateka.com] Niboneye njye ubwanjye uko inkotanyi zatsembye abahutu

 



On Friday, 10 April 2015, 8:39, "Lyarahoze Samuel lyar66@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:


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Ibyo wanditse, n'ukuri kwambaye ubusa
Icyaha ni gatozi
Abumva bafite umutima nama utabashinja kwijandika muri genocide, nimutahe murwababyaye, murisanga murwanda rwanyu. Mureke abo babafashe bungwate, kuko iminsi yabo ibaze. na Twagiramungu yitandukanije nabo.

"Nshimiyimana jean claude njclaude5@yahoo.fr [amakurunamateka]" <amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

 

Ubu butumwa bw'uyu mu generali burashekeje pe. we afite imari aryamyeho (amafaranga na zahabu yirirwa acukura) hanyuma agashaka abo birirwanywa bamurinze yarangiza akayobya uburari. banyarda mwese aho muri hose yaba mu mashyamba cg iyo mu mahanga mukwiye kumenya ko igihugu kibakeneye kugirango murusheho kucyubaka no gufatanya n'abandi mu gutera imbere. iyi ni propagande yuzuye urwango n'ingengabitekerezo ya Genocide. nimubaze abatahutse bari mu Rwanda uko babayeho, mwibaze niba harukicwa n'imbeho n'indwara zo mu mashyamba iyo ngiyo. ntago tuyobewe yuko hari abakoze ibyaha (abo bakwiye kubiryozwa imbere y'ubutabera) ariko se abatarijanditse mu mahano yabereye mu Rwanda, mwebwe mushigaje iki ngo mutahe koko? kwirirwa mwumva ibihuha by'aba ba generali babafashe bugwate? Mumenye yuko amaherezo buri wese azikorera uwe mutwaro.

Mbifurishe amahoro,

Jeff
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En date de : Jeu 9.4.15, benoit karekezi innotechrw@yahoo.fr [amakurunamateka] <amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

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Date: Jeudi 9 avril 2015, 15h54


 









Iyo nkuru
irashaje, mubaze General amafaranga afite kuri compte ye
ubu, ntabwo yigeze ayagira mu Rwanda Arababeshya
akinisha iturufu y'ubwoko muri 21e siecle ? Bavabandimwe
banyarwanda nimutahe murwababyaye, abanyekongo
barabarambiwe. Akica kaburiwe nimpongo


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2015 13h00, "Alfred Nganzo alfrednganzo@yahoo.com
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On Thursday, 9 April 2015, 10:13,
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UBUTUMWA BUGENEWE IMPUNZI Z'ABANYARWANDA BARI MURI
RDC NO MU YANDI MAHANGA
Banyarwanda
Banyarwandakazi dusangiye gupfa no gukira hano mu mashyamba
ya Repuburika Iharanira Demokarasi ya Kongo n'abandi,
hashize igihe kirekire turi mu kababaro gakomeye kiganjemo
urupfu rwa buri gihe, twicwa tuzira ubusa kandi bikagaragara
ko bishyigikiwe na benshi kuri iyi si.

Guhera taliki ya 01/10/1990  kugeza  magingo aya, twebwe
impunzi z'abanyarwanda twateshejwe agaciro,
by'umwihariko impunzi z'Abahutu, kuko ari zo
zatereranywe ku isi imyaka  ingana itya. Uyu munsi bikaba
bitari kuri twebwe impunzi gusa, ahubwo Umuhutu
yarahagurukiwe haba mu mahanga yahungiyemo, ndetse no mu
gihugu cy'u Rwanda abarimo bateshejwe agaciro ku buryo
bubonwa na bose. Nubwo bamwe babibona nk'igikorwa cyiza
Leta ya  FPR  ikora.

Hashingiwe ku binyoma bikomeye bya FPR, buri wese aho ari
nta byiringiro abona byo gutabarwa, kwaba gutabarwa
n'Imana cyangwa n'abantu, kuko ikinyoma cya FPR
cyabaye intwaro ikomeye yo kurimbura abanyarwanda, cyane 
cyane hibasiwe Abahutu.

Iyo tuvuga ijambo ubwoko bw'Abahutu ntituba dushaka
kuzana ivangura, ahubwo ivangura rya Leta ya FPR ni ryo
ridutera kuvuga Abahutu n'akarengane kabo mu Rwanda no
mu mahanga bahungiyemo. Iri vangura rya FPR rero ni igikorwa
kibi cya kirimbuzi cyo kumaraho Abahutu hakoreshejwe 
ubuhanga bw'ivanga rigamije ivangura. Iri jambo IVANGA
RIGAMIJE IVANGURA rishaka kuvuga iki? Muri iki gihe mu
Rwanda hadutse gahunda ya "Ndi Umunyarwanda" aho
bavuga kenshi ko mu Rwanda nta moko abamo, ko bose ari
Abanyarwanda: iryo ni IVANGA rya mbere.

Mu Rwanda, nyuma y'uko indege ya Perezida HABYARIMANA
ihanurwa F

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“Uwigize agatebo ayora ivi”. Ubutegetsi bukugira agatebo ukariyora uko bukeye n’uko bwije.

"Ce dont j’ai le plus peur, c’est des gens qui croient que, du jour au lendemain, on peut prendre une société, lui tordre le cou et en faire une autre."

“The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

“The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.”

“I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile."

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