[rwandalibre] Michel Niyibizi umuvugizi wa MRND:

 

Wari uzi ko Bwana Michel Niyibizi ari hafi gutorwa n'indi mirongo kuba umuvugizi w'umurongo wa MRND !!!

Ese hari ubu sembwa abo muri MRND bamubonaho ? 

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Le 9 nov. 2015 à 05:49, Mem <memajp2000@yahoo.fr> a écrit :

Lu pour vous: 

Itangazo No 002: UKO IMIRONGO YA POLITIKI INE YA OPOZISIYO NYARWNDA UMUNTU ABONA IHAGARARIWE N'AMASHYAKA Nk'uko twabatangarije uko imirongo ya politiki nyarwanda iteye uko ari ine, dore amashyaka ahagarariye iyo mirongo: 1. Ishyaka umuntu abona rihagarariye umurongo wa politiki wegamiye ku mateka ya FPR icyerekezo cy'amateka y'Abanyiginya ni RNC. Naho icyerekezo cy'ibitekerezo byubakiye kumateka y'Abega kugeza ubu, gihagarariwe na FPR kuko kitaragira ishyaka rigihagarariye muri opozisiyo nyarwanda. 2. Ishyaka umuntu abona rihagarariye umurongo w'ibitekerezo byegamiye ku mateka n'umurage bya MRND ni ishyaka FDU Inkingi. 3. Ishyaka umuntu abona rihagarariye umurongo w''ibitekerezo byegamiye ku mateka n'umurage bya MDR ni ishyaka MCR-Abasangirangendo. 4. Amashyaka ahagarariye umurongo w'ubunyarwanda bw'ukuri butavangura ni Ishyaka Banyarwanda (Responsable) n'Ishyaka Nyarwanda ry'Imberabose PRM/MRP- Abasangizi (Responsable wungirije). Muri ibi bihe, turabizi ko hari n'andi mashyaka avuga iby'ubunyarwanda, urugero nka FPR na "ndumunyarwanda" yayo ariko inyuma y'iyo mvugo hihishe ikinyoma, uburyarya bwinshi, imbereka n'ubuhendanyi. Niyo mpamvu twe tuvuga "umurongo wa politiki w'ubunyarwanda bw'UKURI budaheza kandi butavangura" kuko inyuma yabwo nta buryarya, nta mbereka, nta buhendanyi buhihishe. Amashyaka yandi ataragaragaza umurongo wa politiki aherereyemo akwiriye kubikora ku buryo bwihuse kugirango abanyarwnda bose n'amahanga babashe gusobanukirwa neza n'aho buri shyaka rya politiki rihagaze mu by'ukuri kugirango abanyarwnda twese tubone uko twubaka uburyo bwiza bunoze bw'isangira ry'igihugu n'ubutegetsi bwacyo hagati y'abanyarwanda b'ingeri zose nta n'umwe ukumiriwe. Turimo turaharanira demokarasi isesuye mu gihugu cyacu, kandi imwe mu mahame ya demokarasi ni ukutagira uwo iheza. Kuba mu murongo wa politiki uwo ari wo wose rero muri iriya mirongo uko ari ine twavuze, nta kibi kirimo, ntabwo ari ikosa cyangwa ikinegu kuko kuba mu murongo wa politiki runaka ari uburenganzira bwa buri muntu mu kwishyira ukizana kwe. Kandi nta murongo wa politiki uruta uwundi cyangwa uruta iyindi. Ikigamijwe ni uko iyo mirongo ya politiki iba iri mu mitwe no mu mitekerereze y'abantu banyuranye yemera ko ibaho kuko ukuri ari uko iriho, ikava mu bwihisho no mu kwiyoberanya, igahura ikaganira mu bwubahane, ikiga n'uburyo bukwiye, bunoze, bwo gusangira igihugu n'ubutegetsi bwacyo nta munyarwanda n'umwe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi, ntawe ugaragiye undi, ntawe uherekeje undi, ntawe uragiye undi nk'uragiye inka, ihene cyangwa intama, ntawaje kuvumba iwabo; bose bafite uburenganzira bungana. Bitangarijwe i Bruxelles mu Bubiligi n'i Savannah muri Amerika, tariki ya 07/11/2015; Responsable uhagarariye umurongo w'ubunyarwanda bw'ukuri butavangura, Rutayisire Boniface, Perezida w'Ishyaka Banyarwanda; Responsable wungirije, Dr. Gasana Anastase, Perezida w'Ishyaka Nyarwanda ry'Imberabose PRM/ MRP- Abasangizi. ------------------------------------- Itangazo No 001: UMURONGO WA POLITIKI W'UBUNYARWANDA BUTAVANGURA MU RUHANDO RW'IMIRONGO INE IGIZE POLITIKI NYARWANDA MURI IKI GIHE Turatangariza abanyarwanda n'abatuye isi yose ko kuri ubu politiki nyarwanda mu gihugu no hanze (leta ya FPR na opozisiyo ) uyisanga mu mirongo ine y'ingenzi yubatse mu ishusho ry'ibikuta by'ibitekerezo bya politiki bitandukanye. Iyi mibonere ya systèmes enye ku banyarwanda usanga ishingiye ku bitekerezo mbere na mbere aho gushingira ku karere n'ubwoko ku buryo abanyarwanda baramutse bahuriye hamwe nko muri leta y'inzibacyuho yubakiye kuri fondation y'ukuri nyakuri irimo abanyarwannda bose maze bagasangira ubutegetsi banganya amahirwe, ibyo bitekerezo bigaragaramo ibisigisigi by'amoko n'uturere, byazageza aho biyoyoka noneho bose bagasangira igihugu biyumva nk'abanyarwanda, badakeneye gushyira imbere ikindi kintu runaka cy'ubwoko cyangwa akarere n'ibindi abanyarwanda bakunze gushingiraho kugirango bigizeyo abandi banyarwnda. Ibi bikuta by'ibitekerezo ubisanga imbere mu gihugu ndetse no hanze muri opozisiyo kubatinyuka kuvugisha ukuri. Dore uko iyo mirongo ine ya politiki iteye: 1. Umurongo wa politiki y'ibitekerezo byubakiye ku mateka ya système ya FPR n'ubutegetsi bwayo. Hari abantu ku giti cyabo n'amashyaka n'amashyirahamwe bumvako système ya FPR (kubayihozemo no kubayikirimo ndetse n'abatarigeze bayikorera) bafite imibonere yo kumvako système ya FPR atari mbi ko umubi ari Kagame ko ahubwo hakosorwa ibibi bagaya muri iriya systeme cyangwa bigawa n'abandi. Muri icyo gikuta cy'ibitekerezo byubakiye ku mateka ya FPR usanga harimo ibyerekezo bibiri, kimwe cyubakiye kumateka y'Abega n'ikindi cyubakiye kumateka y'Abanyiginya. Abenshi mu bari muri uyu murongo bumva ko n'ingoma ya Cyami itari mbi, ko yari ifite umwimerere wayo mwiza. Nyuma ya 1994, ingoma ya Cyami ni yo iba yarashubijwe ku ntebe mu Rwanrda Repubulika ikavaho, biza kubuzwa n'amakimbirane hagati y'abega n'abanyiginya. Abega kubera ko ari bo bafite ijambo kurusha abanyiginya bitewe n'uko Kagame ari umwega, nibo banze ko ubwami busubiraho atari ukubera ko batabushakaga ahubwo ari ukubera ko batashakaga ko umunyiginya yongera kubasumba ngo abe umwami w'u Rwanda rwa FPR Inkotanyi. 2. Umurungo wa politiki y'ibitekerezo byubahikiye ku mateka y'igikuta cy'ibitekerezo bya systeme y'ingoma ya MRND. Hari abantu ku giti cyabo n'amashyaka n'amashyirahamwe bumva ko ubutegetsi bwa MRND butari bubi ndetse bakumva ko iyo systeme y'ubutegetsi iramutse isubiranye ubutegetsi ntacyo byaba bitwaye. Abo bantu bavuga ko iyo modele y'ubutegetsi iramutse isubiyeho bo bakosora ibibi n'amakosa yakozwe mbere.Abenshi muri bo ndetse bumva ko ubutegetsi mu 1994 ari bo babwambuwe , ko ari bo bagomba kubusubirana. 3. Umurongo wa politiki w'igikuta cy'abafite ibitekerezo bya politiki bishingiye ku mateka ya MDR. Iki gikuta cy'ibitekerezo cyafashe imbaraga nyinshi aho imiryango y'abanyapolitiki bo muri Repubulika ya mbere baherutse kwibukira iyicwa ry'ababo mu Bubiligi. 4. Umurongo wa politiki w'ubunyarwanda bw'ukuri butavangura. Mu mateka yawo ku mugaragaro, uyu murongo umaze imyaka icyenda. Watangiwe n'Ishyaka Banyarwanda n'amateka yaryo. Ishyaka Nyarwanda ry'Imberabose PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI mu ivuka ryaryo naryo ryaje rigendera kuri uyu murongo ndetse ryiyemeza no kuwuteza imbere mu bikorwa no mu mahame-remezo yaryo. Hari andi mashyaka n'amashyirahamwe ndetse n'abantu ku giti cyabo bateganya kugendera kuri uyu murongo wa politiki ariko batarafata icyemezo cyo kubitangaza. Mu miterere yawo, umurongo w'ubunyarwanda bw'ukuri butavangura wubakiye kuguharanira gushyiraho système y'ubutegetsi bw'u Rwanda rushyashya rutagize aho ruhuriye n'urukuta rw'ibitekerezo byubakiye ku mateka n'umurage bya FPR cyangwa urukuta rw'ibitekerezo byubakiye ku mateka n'umurage bya MRND, cyangwa urukuta rw'ibitekerezo byubakiye ku mateka n'umurage bya MDR. Umurongo w'ubunyarwanda bw'ukuri butavangura ni système nshyashya yubakiye kuri ba victimes b'amoko yose n'uturere twose. Ni ukuvuga aba victimes ba système ya FPR n'aba système ya MRND n'aba systeme ya MDR. Kuri abo hiyongeraho abandi bantu (baba bato cyangwa basheshe akanguhe) batabaye victimes ariko badashaka kugarura ubutegetsi bw'izo systèmes z'ingoma za MRND, FPR na MDR. Abagize umurongo w'ubunyarwanda bw'ukuri butavangura harimo abantu kugiti cyabo n'amashyaka n'amashyirahamwe kandi bose bahuriye kugushaka gushyiraho systeme nshyashya y'ubutegetsi yayobora u Rwanda itagize aho ihuriye n'iya FPR cyangwa iya MRND cyangwa iya MDR. Muri bariya batabaye victims, hanabonekamo abantu usanga batarigeze bakorera leta y'u Rwanda igihe yagengwaga na ziriya systèmes z'ubutegetsi, n'abandi bigeze gukorera leta y'u Rwanda igihe yayoborwaga na ziriya systemes z'ubutegetsi ariko bafite ibyo bazinenga bigatuma bahitamo kuzitarura. Kuba umwe mubagize uyu murongo wa politiki ni uburenganzira bwa buri munyarwanda. Icyangombwa ni ukwemera amatwara yawo no kubahiriza ibiwuranga byose. Bikorewe i Bruxelles mu Bubiligi n'i Savannah muri Amerika tariki ya 07 /11/2015 Responsable uhagarariye umurongo w'ubunyarwanda butavangura Rutayisire Boniface Perezida w'Ishyaka Banyarwanda; Responsable wungirije Dr. Gasana Anastase, Perezida w'Ishyaka Nyarwanda ry'Imberabose PRM/ MRP- Abasangizi. ------------------------------------

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[rwandalibre] Débat kuri théorie ya Hamites-Bantu :

 

Bwana Bangamwabo Martin, 

Ubanza utumvise neza.  Abavuga ko hariho ikibazo cya Hamites contre Bantu mukarere ntabwo ariko biboneka mukibuga cya politiki yo mukarere mubihe bishize. Byaravuzwe murwego rwo gutangatanga no kurwanya Fpr yateye yitwa iy'abatutsi ariko ibyo bintu ntibyigeze bifata ngo bigaragare ko ariko biteye mukarere. 

Uti gute ? Ese wigeze wumva ishyirahamwe ry'abo bita Bantou ou Bantu contre Hamites mukarere ? Iyo wegereye umunyekongo cyangwa umurundi n'umutanzaniya wumva hari akantu k'irangamuntu baziko bahuriyeho kuburyo ako kantu kabafasha kurwana intambara bitwa ko ari abavandimwe Bantu ? Ntabwo uziko Fdrl ya kera yigeze kujya hamwe na Cndd bakarasana bakamarana Nkurunziza atarafata ubutegetsi!!! Isano ya Bantu ko itabafashije gushyira hamwe nk'abandimwe ? 

Kubireba les Hamites ko Museveni na Kagame batigeze bashyigikira abatutsi b' I Burundi ngo bagume kubutegetsi mukarere ? Ubwo se ubumwe bwa Hamite mukarere ni ubuhe ? Ntabwo Rutayisire Boniface yigeze kubatangariza inyandiko mubihe bishize ibereka ko abatutsi b'i Burundi bigeze kujya gutakambira Kagame ngo abatabare akabatera utwatsi ! Ubwo se ubumwe buvugwa hagati ya Hima ni ubuhe? Iyo iyo umututsi ahuye n'undi bumva ari abahima kuburyo iyo Sano yabo (ntakindi wongeyeho) ari ubumwe bwabafasha kurwana intambara ? 

Bwana Bangamwabo, nimuve mumarangamutima yubatswe n'abanyamahanga batazi ibibazo by'akarere. 

Ikiriho ni nka biriya bya Kagame ageze aho akenera abatutsi b' i Burundi kandi ejo hashize yarabateye utwatsi kuko icyo gihe yari yihagije. Icyabayeho mbere nuko Museveni yigeze gukebera abatutsi b´' Rwanda akabifashisha akagera kubutegetsi nabo nyuma bakaza kumwifashisha bakabugeraho. 

Niba iyo migirire ariyo bashaka gushyira muri théorie ya Hamites-Bantu, ababivuga baravangavanga.

Kugeza ubu muburyo bw'imibereho na politiki ntabaturage b'ibihugu binyuranye bari biyumvamo ko bahujwe no kuba bitwa ba Bantu cyangwa ba Hamites. Ufite aho abizi ahavuge. 

Ibya Hamites na Bantu ni théories zikiri muri laboratoires z'amahanga zikaba zitangiye gushyirwa mu igeragezwa rya communication  mubitabo n'ibindi kugirango hageragezwe kureba niba iyo théorie yafata noneho bagacamo Afrika kabiri. Uko bamwe burukana abandi muri Afrika ninako abandi bashaka théories zatuma babona uko bahashinga akaguru bacagagura abanyafurika mo ibice. 

Abashimangira ibya Hamites contre Bantu baratiza umurindi ba Kagame kuko babatubura bakabagira banini bahagararariye Hamites kandi aribo bireba kugiti cyabo ahubwo bagakoresha uko bashoboye ngo bagumeho. 

Na ba Kagame nabo iyo théorie ntacyo ibafashaho kuko bituma ibyabo byose bishongera muri urwo rwokotsi rw'urujijo n'icyuka rutabaho kuburyo bazasigara amara masa mumateka ntashingiro.

Muri make Hamite na Bantu ni théorie itagize uwo ifitiye akamaro kuri ubu n'ejo kuko byose biterwa n'umutegetsi uriho mugihugu runanaka hamwe n'abamushyigikiye. Kujya muri ibyo ni ugutatanya imbaraga ujya kubaka ibidafite ishingiro ryo gufata kuko isi irimo irahindura isura kandi ibihugu byose byitaye kuri Afrika. Ufite uko abibona natubwire.

Mugema

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Le 10 nov. 2015 à 10:28, "Martin Bangamwabo mbangamwabo@yahoo.fr [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :

Mr Ibukabose,

iri kosa mukoze vous etes loin d'en saisir la portée.

"Ibya Hima - Bantu ni ibintu bitamaze igihe kirekire mwa Kagame kuko mubihe bishize ..." ( Ibukabose)

Mr Ibukabose,
ibi mwemeje c'est juste votre conviction. C'est tout.
Vous imaginez, pour un sujet aussi important, qui concerne plusieurs millions de personnes et plusieurs pays, qui a déjà emporté millioni zigeze ku munani z'abantu,
mukagira une conviction pareil en moins de 5 minutes ( peut-être même pas).
Iki gitekerezo, cya Hima-bantu nacyumvise bwa mbere mu myaka ya 89 i Kigali, kandi sinkora porotiki.
Kiza kujya ahagaragara cyane mu gitabo cy'umugabo uba mu bubiligi witwa Noheli. Sinagisomye ariko il semblerait que yanditsemo ibintu yerekana na za sources de ses dires.
None mwebwe Ibuka bose, muje muvuga ngo si byo nta na sources na ntoya de vos affirmations!!
Et pourtant vous avez la réputation d'être l'un des meilleurs d'entre nous.
Turajyaha??

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De : "Mem memajp2000@yahoo.fr [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>
À : "ibukabose@yahoogroupes.fr" <ibukabose@yahoogroupes.fr> 
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Envoyé le : Dimanche 8 novembre 2015 21h53
Objet : [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: [ibukabose] Ibya Hima Bantu nta shingiro:Re: Réf.: *DHR* Intambara ya rurangiza yateguriwe mu Rwanda kuva muri 2013 iragabwa ku Burundi muri uku kwezi k'Ugushyingo 2015 (11/2015)

Le 8 nov. 2015 à 21:51, "Mem memajp2000@yahoo.fr [ibukabose]" <ibukabose@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :

 

Ibya Hima - Bantu ni ibintu bitamaze igihe kirekire mwa Kagame kuko mubihe bishize atigeze yumvikana n'abatutsi b'i Burundi bikaba byaranatumye Cndd FDD yoroherwa no gufata ubutegetsi. Abatutsi b' i Burundi batabaje Kagame na Museveni babatera utwatsi kuburyo iyo Hima contre Bantu biba ari réalité ntabwo abatutsi b'i Burundi baba baratakaje ubutegetsi.

No muri Congo sicyo Kagame yashyize imbere kuko iyo agishyira imbere aba yarakoze igihugu cy'abatutsi muri Congo mugice cya Kivu kandi yari abifitiye ubushobozi.

Hima-Bantu ntabwo ari réalité muri FPR.  Kagame akora intambara kenshi na kenshi atazi n'icyo azazimarisha nk'uko yafashe Congo akabura icyo ayimarisha. 

Hima -Bantu ni intambara y'abazungu bashaka kubona uburyo barwanya benewabo mu karere bafite abo bihisha inyuma. 

Ibya Hima contre Bantu  bishobora kuzaba ikibazo mubihe bizaza kuko birimo bihemberwa kungufu ariko ntabwo ari ikibazo muri ibi bihe no mubihe bishize. 

Kagame arashaka intambara aho yaturuka hose kuko gutegekana intambara bimworohereza guhonyora no kwirengagiza ibibazo byo mugihugu.

Ibya Hima contre Bantu nta shingiro rinini bifite biracyari ibinyabasazi. 

Kubishyira imbere ni ukuba utazi neza  FPR n'ibibazo by'akarere. 

Icyo bamwe batazi nuko nouvelle génération y'abategetsi bariho mukarere  ikeneye udutambara duto cyangwa za tensions zikaze zihoraho kugirango babone uko bashobora ibibazo biri imbere mugihugu. 

Ibya Hima Tutsi rero ntashingiro rinini bifite kuko za groupes banashyira muri Hima cyangwa Bantu nta contacts zifitanye ndetse nta n'ubumwe budasanzwe zifitanye kuburyo bwazifasha kubishingiraho bakora intambara. 

Hima Tutsi abayikoresha hamwe n'abagwa mumutego wo kubona ibintu gutyo, basubire mubushakatsi neza kuko atari ryo shingiro ry'ibibazo biri mukarere. 

Le 08/11/2015

Mugema

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Le 8 nov. 2015 à 20:32, "Survivre AuChaos survivre_au_chaos@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :

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Nimukenyere mukomeze karabaye !

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>↓ Laisser un commentaireMutwihanganire kuba twaratinze kubagezaho iyi nyandiko abenshi muri mwe badutangarije kenshi ko bayitegerezanye amatsiko menshi. Impamvu yo gutinda nta yindi rero ni uko mu gahugu k'ikinamico buri gihe bucya bucyana ayandi; ni ukuvuga ko igihe cyose twabaga tugiye kubageza ho iyi  nyandiko, hari andi makuru mashya twungukaga bikaba ngombwa ko nayo tuyashyiramo.Kagame Pawulo agura ibi bisasu, abibazaga icyo azabikoresha bagiye kukibona
>muri uku kwezi k'Ugushyingo 2015Mbere yo kubatangariza icyo  amatohoza yacu yagezeho, tunejejwe no kubagezaho bumwe mu buryo bwakoreshejwe kugirango tubone aya makuru musoma hasi aha. Mu rwego rwo kugirango tumenye niba koko hari ingabo ziteguye gutera u Burundi ziturutse mu Rwanda cyangwa niba hari FDLR ibarizwa i Burundi, twaganiriye n'abatutsi 5 n'abahutu 5 muri buri gihugu muri ibi byombi tuvuze hejuru. Twasuye kandi Kisoro muri Uganda aho Radio Kisoro ikorera, iyi radiyo ikaba ariyo Inkotanyi zakoreshaga mu ntambara zagabyeho u Rwanda kuva muri 1990 kugeza muri 1994, muramenya impamvu twasuye aha hantu.Ahandi twasuye ndetse tukaganira n'abaturage baho ni muri Uvira mu Burasirazuba bwa Repubulika iharanira Demokarasi ya Congo, muramenya impamvu y'uru ruzinduko. Twagerageje kandi no gutemberera umujyi wa Kigoma uherereye ku kiyaga cya Tanganyika , ni ukuvuga mu Burengerazuba bwa Tanzania. Hari andi makuru twagiye dukura mu nzego
z'iperereza za bimwe mu bihugu biri buvugwe muri iyi nyandiko, ariko yo ntitubabwira uko twayabonye kubera umutekano w'abayatanze. Hasi aha rero turabagezaho ibyo twagezeho mu magambo  avunaguye.Intambara ya rurangiza yateguriwe mu Rwanda kuva muri 2013 iragabwa ku Burundi muri uku kwezi k'Ugushyingo 2015.Amakuru twakuye mu nzego z'ubutasi za Pawulo Kagame ni avuga ko imyiteguro yo kugaba igitero ku Burundi yarangiye; ubwo twahabwaga aya makuru, hari mu cyumweru cya mbere cy'ukwezi gushize kwa cumi. Nyuma y'ibyumweru bitatu duhawe aya makuru, Pawulo Kagame yahinduye ubuyobozi bw'ingabo ze ku buryo butunguranye, hari kuri 28/10/2015; ibi bikaba bishimangira koko ko amakuru twari twahawe yari yo kuko  buri gihe uyu mugabo iyo agiye kugaba ibitero hanze y'u Rwanda ahindagura ubuyobozi bw'igisoda cye ku buryo butunguranye. Ikindi twabashije kumenya kijyanye n'iyi ntambara ni uko hari abatutsi bahoze muri UPRONA no mu ngabo z'u
Burundi bari muri uyu mugambi nkuko inyandiko ya Mbangurunuka Paul yabibagejejeho muri 2013, bakaba barafatanyije na Kagame n'igisoda cye kwirenza Lt Jenerali Adolufe (Adolphe) Nshimirimana kuri 2/8/2015  bagahusha Umugaba mukuru w'ingabo z'i Burundi Pirime ( Prime) Niyongabo kuri 11/9/2015. Amakuru twashoboye gukura mu nzego z'ubutasi z'u Burundi yemeza koko ko abarashe kuri aba bagabo bombi tuvuze hejuru bari Abatutsi bari mu gisirikare cy'u Burundi ku bufatanye bw'ubutasi bw'u Rwanda n'ubugambanyi bw'abarundi bari i Kigali. Mu Burundi baryamiye amajanjaAmatohoza kandi twakomereje i Burundi yatweretse ko mu Burundi bazi iby'iki gitero cyo muri uku kwezi k'Ugushyingo 2015. Umwe mu bategetsi bo hejuru wavuganye na Shikama ariko tukaba tudatangaza amazina ye cyangwa urwego rwe mu buyobozi kubera umutekano we, yadutangarije ko iby'iyi ntambara babizi kandi bakaba babikurikirana amanywa n'ijoro. Uyu mutegetsi kandi
yashimangiye ko iyi ntambara Abarundi bazayitsinda nta kabuza kuko abaturage babari inyuma.« Hewe mushingantahe, iyi ntambara tuzoyirwana kandi tuzoyitsinda kuko dushigikiwe n'abene gihugu, abo bamenja bareke baze, tuzi ko ata mwene gihugu ubari inyuma yaba kuri bo canke ababashigikiye»Nkuko uyu  muyobozi yabitangarije Shikama, twamenye koko ko hageragejwe kenshi kwigarurira ibice bimwe bihana imbibe n'u Rwanda ariko abaturage babera ibamba bene kugerageza ubwo bubisha. Ibi byatumye higwa andi mayeri yo kwibanda ku bice bimwe by'umujyi wa Bujumbura bituwe n'Abatutsi. Ariko twamenye ko hari n'undi mupango wo kwigarurira Bujumbura y'icyaro mu Burundi bita Bujumbura Rirale ( Rurale)Imbeba irya umuhini yototera isuka: ikigamijwe si ukwigarurira u Burundi, ni ukwigarura Uburengerazuba bwa Tanzania no gutsemba burundu FDLR n'impunzi z'Abahutu irinze, Bujumbura ikaba ishakwaho iteme ( base arrière)Bamwe mu baturage baganiriye na Shikama
mu mujyi wa Uvira uherereye mu burasirazuba bwa Repubulika iharanira Demokarasi ya Congo, yemeza ko  muri aka kavuyo kose Kagame ariho ateza i Burundi, ikigamijwe atari ugukuraho Petero Nkurunziza gusa kuko ngo niyo Nkurunziza aba adahari Kagame yagombaga gukora uko ashoboye ngo atere RDCongo aciye Uvira yigarurire n'uburengerazuba bwa Tanzania aciye Bujumbura akambukira Kigoma muri Tanzania.Twababajije impamvu bakeka zituma uyu mugabo yatera muri Tanzania na RDCongo baratubwira bati:Ikarita yerekana RDCongo na bimwe mu bihugu byo mu karere iherereyemo
>( Kanda ku ikarita uyigire nini)-  Muri TanzaniaTanzania niyo yahumuye amahanga ku migambi mibisha ya FPR yo kwigarurira akarere n'Afrika y'ubumanuko ngo hakorwe icyo bise ubwami-nyabami Hima-Tutsi.Tanzania yahise ibona ibindi bihugu by'Afrika biyifasha kuburizamo uyu mugambi, aha twavuga nka Afrika y'Epfo na  Malawi bohereje ingabo, ariko hari n'ibindi bihugu bitohereje ingabo ariko biri inyuma ya Tanzania aha tukaba twavuga nka Angola, Zimbabwe na Zambia.Tanzania yasabye ko Pawulo Kagame agirana ibiganiro na FDLR  nkuko Habyarimana Yuvenali yabigiranye na FPR muri 1993, Kagame abifata nk'icyaha cya Sakirilego!Tanzania niyo yatumye ingabo za Kagame Pawulo zari zihishe mucyo bitaga M23 zitsindwa.Tanzania niyo yumvishije amahanga kutarasa ku mpunzi 350,000 z'Abahutu ziri mu mashyamba ya RDCongo Kagame Pawulo yita FDLR-  Muri RDCongoKu ikubitiro, ibitero bya Kagame amaze kwigarurira Bujumbura, azambuka aze Uvira, maze akomeze mpaka
ageze i Kinshasa ashyireho Leta ashaka nkuko yabikoze muri 1996. Ibi byo gutera RDCongo bizitwa ko ariho ahashya burundu FDLR amahanga yananiwe, ariko muby'ukuri ikizaba kigamijwe ni ukongera kwifatira RDCongo agasahura amabuye y'agaciro naho FDLR azi ko atayishobora kuko ni inshuro nyinshi yagerageje kuyitsemba kuva muri 1996 afatanyije n'imitwe y'inyeshyemba irenga 52, ingabo za RDCongo cyangwa iza LONI bikamunanira.Kagame Pawulo azi ko iki ari igihe cyiza kuko akavuyo Kabange Kanambe wiyise Joseph Kabila ariho atera muri RDCongo muri ibi bihe amatora yegereje, abakongomani benshi barangariye aya matora, bikaba byoroshye ko umwanzi wese yabacengera akabagwa gitumo.Muri Tanzania, abaturage ntibazi ko bazagabwaho ibitero ariko abategetsi bararikanuyeMu gihe Shikama yari mu mujyi wa Kigoma uherereye ku kiyaga cya Tanganyika mu burengerazuba bwa Tanzania, twasanze abaturage nta yindi mbyino batera atari « Uchaguzi »ni ukuvuga amatora mu
kinyarwanda. Bamwe twaganiriye ku bibazo biri mu karere, batubwiye ko ikibazo cy'i Burundi gihangayikishije cyane. Twabajije abaturage impamvu bakeka zaba zikurura iki kibazo, bamwe batubwiye ko ari Nkurunziza Petero ushaka kugundira ubutegetsi, abandi bagasubiza ko byose biterwa na Pawulo Kagame w'u Rwanda.Umunyamakuru wacu uri muri aka gace ka Tanzania kandi yatubwiye ko hari amakuru yahawe na bamwe bakorera inzego z'ubutasi za Tanzania yamubwiraga ko hari abakozi bo mu iperereza rya Amerika, CIA ( soma Seyiya) bageze muri iki gihugu kuva hakwaduka iturika ry'amagerenade muri 2013 yahitanye abantu benshi; aba bakozi ngo bakaba bagerageza kumenya isoko y'aya mabi.Umunyamakuru wacu yadutangarije ko nubwo abaturage ntacyo bazi ku migambi ya Pawulo Kagame yo gutera mu Kagera, abategetsi bo baryamiye amajanja. Uku kutirara kukaba guterwa n'amagambo ngo Kagame yavuze muri 2013 ubwo Perezida Jakaya Kikwete yamusabaga kuganira na FDLR; nanone
kandi ngo mu matora ya Perezida aheruka muri iki gihugu yatsinzwe na Perezida John Pombe Magufuri ubu uyobora Tanzania, Kagame ngo yari yashyize ibifranga byinshi muri aya matora kugirango umukandida we Edward Lowasa atorwe ariko ntibyamuhiriye.Abategetsi ba Tanzania bakaba bazi ko ngo Kagame Pawulo ashobora kwifashisha abari bashyigikiye Lowasa batishimiye itsindwa rye, maze bagafatanya guhungabanya umutekano w'iki gihugu. Ibi kandi birashoboka kuko Edward Lowasa yatangaje ko ariwe watsinze amatora akaba ariwe Perezida wemewe w'igihugu cya Tanzania. Ikindi cyerekana ko hari umugambi mubisha wo gushinga umutwe w'inyeshyamba muri aka gace, ni amagambo itangazamakuru rya Kagame ryavuze ko Lowasa yavuze atandukanye n'ayo uyu Lowasa ubwe yari yibwiriye BBC.Iyi radiyo mpuzamahanga y'Abongereza im

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RWANDA-BURUNDI: une ironie de mauvais goût de la part de Paul KAGAME

10 Novembre 2015

Le « Méga-tueur en série en chef » de la région des Grands Lacs africains, crie au tueur à propos de Pierre NKURUNZIZA. C´est le monde à l´envers !

Pépin Lulendo

La déclaration faite récemment par Paul KAGAME, accusant le président burundais Pierre NKURUNZIZA de massacrer quotidiennement sa propre population, relève d´une pure ironie de mauvais goût. Étant donné qu´elle vide les faits qui sont effectivement à déplorer sur place au Burundi, de leur sens et de leur véracité, dès lors que l´accusation provient de la bouche de celui qui, à lui seul, cumule tous les défauts de ses qualités d´être un « criminel de guerre » régional et un « méga-pyromane » sans égal. Paul KAGAME aurait mieux fait de se taire, afin d´occulter sa responsabilité dans les tristes événements à venir dans ce pays, de manière à semer ainsi le doute dans l´esprit de la Communauté internationale. Car, ses déclarations ne sont autre que le prélude de la déstabilisation programmée du Burundi qui, si rien n´y est fait, ne tarderait plus à plonger dans une guerre civile meurtrière que lui imposerait ce même bonhomme, depuis son État-voyou du Rwanda qui, selon de nombreux témoignages concordants, héberge, entraîne et arme les assaillants rwando-burundais près à passer à l´action. (Lire la suite...)

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[haguruka.com] FW: [fondationbanyarwanda] Toronto Star @Deportation Habinshuti J.B.

 

If a lion, a wolf or a shepherd wants to eat a lamb he will always have all reasons to that, but the lamb will never have any for defence. But alas, people should know that the injustice to innocents do not serve too much and finally turns against its authors! 

One may like this speech of sir Kagame where the four minutes against Burundi president has been deleted (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2015/11/08/igihugu-cyu-burundi-kirazi-iki-ese-cyaba-kigiye-kuba-syria-of-africa , min. 51:00-56:00); he ridicules Rwandese who would be forgetting their killed relatives and foreigners's behaviour and contradictions towards themselves, him and poor rwandese (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2015/11/07/ijambo-rya-pres-paul-kagame-yavugiye-muri-unity-club-riteye-kwibaza-byishi ).

Better than this Judi Rever's saying "it is not only unjust but factually wrong to find Habinshuti inadmissible for having worked for Uwilingiyimana, a Hutu moderate who wielded no power and was eliminated as soon as the killings began" can be found nowhere else (http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/op-ed-will-canada-condemn-rwanda-s-brutality-at-home-and-abroad/article/448585).

And alas, Habinshuti is not the only one Rwandese being smashed that way, there are many other untold about! All this is very sad indeed.

How and why a human being, mortel, can dare fabricate a worst crime against another human innocent only for avoiding sharing God's land?

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 08:59:34 -0500
Subject: [fondationbanyarwanda] Toronto Star @Deportation Habinshuti J.B.

 

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Rwandan facing genocide-related charges in last-ditch plea to avoid deportation

Canada Border Services Agency said former Rwandan civil servant Jean Berchamans Habinshuti would get "fair trial" in his homeland.

Jean Berchmans Habinshuti is making a last-ditch plea to the new Liberal government to stop his deportation to Rwanda where he faces genocide-related charges.

Published on Nov 08 2015

Nicholas KeungIMMIGRATION REPORTER

Jean Berchmans Habinshuti hopes Canada's new immigration minister will spare him from deportation to Rwanda, where the former civil servant faces genocide-related charges.

Canadian officials have denied his plea to remain here amid expert witnesses — academic André Guichaoua who has testified at international tribunals, former Rwandan prime minister Faustin Twagiramungu and human rights activist René Mugenzi — who attested to the man's innocence.

In a recent decision on an assessment of the risk he faces if returned to Rwanda, a Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) officer recognized Habinshuti is facing prosecution for serious crimes in his homeland but suggested he could call on the experts to testify in Rwanda at his trial.

"The testimony of the three witnesses above and any others that (he) would have could be pertinent within the criminal trial process in Rwanda," senior CBSA officer S. Nester wrote in Habinshuti's pre-removal risk assessment.

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"For this allegation of risk, providing that he would be given a fair trial and humane detention facilities, I find it unlikely that he would face a risk of torture, risk to life or risk of cruel and unusual treatment or punishment upon his return to Rwanda."

Habinshuti, 60, served as private secretary to late Rwandan prime minister Agathe Uwilingiyimana. He never faced war crimes charges, but Ottawa deemed him inadmissible for his alleged role in a meeting that ultimately triggered the 1994 genocide, in which an estimated one million Rwandans perished in three months of attacks mostly aimed at the minority Tutsi population by extremist Hutus.

He was employed by the Rwandan government between 1992 and 1999, and served as an opposition member of parliament from 1999 to 2003. He finally joined his wife and family in St. Catharines in 2011, and subsequently filed an asylum claim.

An admissibility tribunal had initially deemed him admissible to Canada, but the decision was overturned in an appeal by then-immigration minister Jason Kenney. Habinshuti has remained in detention, pending deportation to Rwanda on Nov. 9.

"My husband has not done anything wrong. He is not a genocidal man as they want to label him. As a mother, I am very upset and saddened by the whole situation," said Amelberga Niringiyimana, the man's wife.

"This is a pity to see such an outrageous injustice happening in this country," added Liliane, one of the couple's three children here. "This is hitting the family hard."

Ottawa never alleged Habinshuti committed, was involved or was complicit in the genocide but deemed him inadmissible because he was a "prescribed senior official" in the former regime and could "exert significant influence on the exercise of government power."

His lawyer, Raoul Boulakia, said Habinshuti was wrongly captured by a provision of the law that was intended to catch those implicated in genocides.

"The law was used by overzealous officials to accomplish the exact opposite of its original purpose," said Boulakia, adding his client has already exhausted his options and only the new immigration minister can grant reprieve.

Montreal-based journalist Judi Rever, who has reported from the Congo and Rwanda for CBC and Agence France-Presse, said it is not only unjust but factually wrong to find Habinshuti inadmissible for having worked for Uwilingiyimana, a Hutu moderate who wielded no power and was eliminated as soon as the killings began.

"The Canadian government's determination that Mr. Habinshuti is inadmissible . . . has now put him in greater danger if he were to return to Rwanda. The assessment has now created a pretext and excuse for the regime to target Mr. Habinshuti even more," Rever said in an affidavit.

"Canada should immediately stop proceedings to deport Mr. Habinshuti and recognize him as a (United Nations) Convention refugee."

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Re: [haguruka.com] Re: [uRwanda_rwacu] Ikinyarwanda gishobora kuvanwa mu ndimi z’ubutegetsi zemewe

 

Erega n'ubundi kwandika umuri Constitution urulimi runaka ko rwemewe mu gihugu maze ugaca inyuma ukarurwanya ni ukubeshya abarukoresha kandi ni no kwibeshya. Ni ukwita abarukoresha ibicucu n'impumyi.

On Monday, 9 November 2015, 19:53, "Samuel Desire sam4des@yahoo.com [uRwanda_rwacu]" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Ngizo za EAC zatumye u Rwanda ruba dumping field z'ibicuruzwa byo mu Bugande na Kenya. Imyaka irenze 20 u Rwanda ntaho ruragera ngo narwo rwohereze ibyo rwakoze muri EAC. Uzines ziyongeyeho mu Rwanda zibarirwa ku ntoki.

Ahubwo Kagame yashatse no guhindura ikerekezo cy'imihanda n'imodoka kugira ngo ahuze na EAC kabndi abone uko agura ibipapuro by'imodoka zikorererwa muri Kenya. Yatekereje neza yisubiraho. Ibyo bimodoka bikorerwa muri Kenya byamaze abantu   ku mihanda buri munsi kuko bidakomeye.

Ngaho bararilimba EAC  ariko imfasahanyo ziva muri Amerika n'u Burayi. Amadevises aturuka mu mfashanyo, ntaturuka mu byagurishijwe hanze. Nta nalimwe muri ayo madevises rikurwa muri EAC.

Iryo terambere bahora barilimba rituruka he? Ubu harya umturage w'umuyrwanda afite amafaranga angahe ku mufuka, arya kangahe ku munsi uretse kurarira urwagwa, ibijumba, ubugali n'umusururu ?

On Monday, 9 November 2015, 19:38, "Samuel Desire sam4des@yahoo.com [haguruka]" <haguruka@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Kagame ntabyo atagiramo ibikabyo: Ngaho za conferences , ngaho za computers abadepite bafite umu ntoko nk'umurato, ngaho za RwandaAir zitunguka, ngaho Rwanda without borders, ngaho za Facebook mu kinyarwanda, ngaho za EAC communities zatuzaniye gucuruza abantu, ngaho za Twitter ba Mushikiwabo boherezaho messages zitukana n'ababuze ababo, ngaho za twitter aba Ministiri bakoresha batanga rapports z'ibyo bakoze n'aho bari. Nk'ibyo byose bimariye iki umuturage? Ninde wakijijwe na Facebook uretse uwayishizeho ashaka kurya abantu amafaranga. Facebook imaze kuvumburwa ko ari ukubeshya no guteza igihe abantu.

Kagame ati indimi sizo zitera ibibazo kuko hari n'abafite izirenga 200 nyamara nta bibazo bagize nk'ibyo twagize.Aha yavuze ukuri limwe gusa mu buzima bwe bwose. None ati i Kinyarwanda ni mugikure mu itegekonshinga. Aha Igihe.com yaba yibeshye cyangwa se ari ukuyobya gusa. Ni igifaransa bagamije gukura mu itegekonshinga. Igifaransa kuba cyari mu itegekonshinga ntacyo byamaze kuko ntibyakibijije gahunda yo kukirandurwa burundu mu gihugu kandi n'yo gahunda iracyakomeza. Bashatse rero bagikuramo.

On Monday, 9 November 2015, 19:07, "Samuel Desire sam4des@yahoo.com [uRwanda_rwacu]" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Abo kwa Kagame bagira ubwirasi burenze urugero. Izi computers se mbona bashinze imbere yabo zimaze iki? 

Baba basoma iki? Baba bandika iki se ?Ko nabonye no bihugu byateye imbere za computers zidakoreshwa nkuko Kagame abitwereka. Ibi n'ibikabyo by'abana.

On Monday, 9 November 2015, 17:21, "SHEMA shimamungu@gmail.com [uRwanda_rwacu]" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Ikinyarwanda gishobora kuvanwa mu ndimi z'ubutegetsi zemewe

Nacyo kirabananiye 9-11-2015 - Saa 15:37 http://mobile.igihe.com/amakuru/u-rwanda/article/ikinyarwanda-gishobora-kuvanwa-mu-ndimi-z-ubutegetsi-zemewe na Rabbi Malo Umucunguzi

Umushinga w'Itegeko Nshinga rivuguruye uri kuganirwaho muri Komisiyo ya Politiki n'Imiyoborere Myiza mu Nteko Ishinga Amategeko Umutwe wa Sena, mu ngingo ya 8 uteganya ko Itegeko ngenga rishobora kongera cyangwa kugabanya indimi zemewe mu butegetsi, Ikinyarwanda akaba ari rumwe mu ndimi zirebwa n'iyo ngingo.

Nk'uko bisanzwe mu Itegeko Nshinga ry'u Rwanda, ururimi rw' igihugu ni Ikinyarwanda, mu gihe indimi zemewe mu butegetsi ari Ikinyarwanda, Icyongereza n'Igifaransa.

Iyi ngingo yagiweho impaka ubwo Senateri Jean de Dieu Mucyo yavugaga ko mu ngingo ya 8 hari igika cyamuteye impungenge, kigaragaza ko ururimi rw'ubutegetsi rushobora kuvanwamo cyangwa rukongerwamo n' itegeko ngenga, kandi n' Ikinyarwanda kigaragara muri izo ndimi.

Senateri Mukasine Marie Claire we yagize ati "Umunsi hari uzazana icyo gitekerezo, maze yakigaragaza Abanyarwanda bakagishyigikira cyagera no mu Nteko Ishinga Amategeko bakagitorera, njye nta mpungenge mbibonamo."

Ku kijyanye no kuba indimi z'ubutegetsi zishobora kugabanywa, Senateri Tito Rutaremara yavuze ko iyo ngingo ifite ishingiro.

Yagize ati "Niba basanze wenda Abanyarwanda batagikoresha Igifaransa, Igishinwa aricyo kivugwa cyane, ubwo bazabireba. Bigomba kujyana n'inyungu. Mbere kubera ko twakolonijwe n'Abafaransa, Abanyamerika bo bakoloniza Isi yose, ariko hari igihe Abashinwa wenda aribo bazaba badufitiye inyungu."

Yakomeje agira ati "Igihe Abanyarwanda bazavuga bati ntitugishaka Ikinyarwanda, ubwo hazaba hari impamvu, ariko sinzi ko bizaba."

Visi Perezida wa Sena, Gakuba Jeanne d' Arc, yasobanuye ko Ikinyarwanda gishobora kuvanwa mu ndimi z'ubutegetsi kigasigara ari ururimi rw'Igihugu bityo ko nta mpungenge bikwiye gutera.

Visi Perezida w'Umutwe w'Abadepite ushinzwe ibikorwa by'Inteko, Jeanne d' Arc Uwimanimpaye, yavuze ko bateganya iyongerwa cyangwa igabanywa ry' indimi z'ubutegetsi batekerezaga ko hakwiyongeramo Igiswahili.

Yagize ati "Igihe hazaba ho igisekuru kizemeza ko Ikinyarwanda kitaba ururimi rw' ubutegetsi, ubwo bazabikore, ariko ruzaba ururimi rw'igihugu […]Ubwo twatekerezaga kuri iyi ngingo twatekereje ku Giswahili, tuvuga tuti tugeze muri EAC tugasanga bikenewe twacyongeramo."

Imyandikire y'inyandiko z'ubutegetsi

Senateri Bernard Makuza yavuze ko "Uburyo iyo ngingo yanditse muri iri vugurura ikuraho urujijo kuko ivuga ko Inyandiko z'ubutegetsi zishobora kuba mu rurimi rumwe cyangwa ebyiri cyangwa zose mu zemewe mu butegetsi."

Senateri Rutaremara we yavuze ko kwandika muri izo ndimi cyangwa rumwe muri zo biboneye, hakwiye kuzajya harebwa itsinda ry' abantu rigiye kwandikirwa, kubera ko ngo "Ugiye nko kwandikira abantu mu mudugudu, hakoreshwa Ikinyarwanda."

Mu gusobanura Visi Perezida w' Umutwe w'Abadepite, Jeanne d' Arc Uwimanimpaye, yagize ati "Ikindi twagendeyeho ni igikorwa cyo gukurura abashoramari. Ntabwo niba hari nk' abashoramari baje twabategeka ngo inyandiko zabo bazihindure mu Gifaransa cyangwa mu Cyongereza."

Yakomeje agira ati "Ntabwo twabihuza n' imitangire ya serivisi, kuko nko kwandika igazeti ya Leta ababikora bazakurikiza abo bigenewe, ariko ntabwo twabategeka ngo bakoreshe indimi runaka."

Komisiyo ya Politike n' Imibereho myiza ikomeje kuganira kuri uyu mushinga w' Itegeko Nshinga rivuguruye, kuri uyu wa Mbere tariki ya 9 Ugushyingo ikaba yasuzumye ingingo 10 zibanza, Mbere ya saa Sita.

malo@igihe.rw

Eugène Shimamungu
Site: http://www.editions-sources-du-nil.fr/
Blog: http://www.editions-sources-du-nil.over-blog.com

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