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TR: [haguruka.com] Re: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

 

Bavandimwe F. Munyabagisha yabivuze invaho, Rwanda izakira umunsi urumuli rwasimbuye umwijima. 

Biligaragaje hamwe yagize ati mwirenganya abanya-Canada, abanya-Amerika ngo baratunda bene wacu (ba Munyakazi, ba Mugesera etc.), ikibazo ni twe ubwacu kiliho. 

None se nk'abanyarwanda n'abanyepolitiki babo bameze uku bakanirwa bakora batya, murunva umunyamahanga yabakiza ate? Umuntu wabanye n'abandi, bagashinga ishyaka hamwe, none ngo kuko bashwanye agahindura ashaka kubakorera urusyo rushyushye, ntabisobanuro bindi atanze uretse amarangamutima murunva uwo aliwe abanyarwanda bajya inyuma? Uwali mu Rwanda wese w'umunyarwanda azi ko MRND yahagaze 1er july 1991, kandi nta munyarwanda utali ayilimwo, nawe ubwe atiretse. Azi ko yasimbuwe na MRND(D) yahanganye n'amashyaka menshi yandi yakoreye mu Rwanda. 

RPF yo ifashe igihugu, kubera imhanvu mbi za politiki, yakoresheje MRND kugira ngo ishobore gukomatanya no kubeshyera abataragiye mu mashyaka nyuma ya July 1991, kuko itabakunda cyangwa se bakaba bataratarakiye mu mashyaka ya opposition yayi-sympatizaga. None umunyepolotiki wali mu Rwanda 1990-1994, afite n'uruhare mu byayo mashyaka, nawe araserutse ati MRND /CDR niyo yishe abatutsi, ntagize ubutwali nimbura ngo apfe kubiroha ku mashyaka yaliho koko, aliyo MRND(D) na CDR!

Byibukije ibyo twabonye, aho abantu bateraga ibigo bakicamwo abantu, barangiza bagahindukira birahira bati ni mutabre yemwe RPF, dore bene ibigo bishe abantu, ni mubacire imanza za jenosidi.

Rwose F. Munyabagisha yavuze ukuli, ahamya ati tujijuke. Uwaliwe wese waba umugabo, yaba umuhutu, yaba umututsi, yaba umutwa, yaba ishyaka ilyo aliyo lyose lyagaragaza ubumuntu, ukuli n'ubunyangamugayo mu buyobozi bwa Rwanda, atagendera ku manyanga, niwe dukwiye kuyoboka ntayandi macuho yandi turangaliyemwo.  



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Objet : [haguruka.com] Re: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube
 
 

Bwana Nkiko uragira uti:

"Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU-Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi [igakorwa] n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere".

Mu minsi ishize nakweretse inyandiko zivuga zizataziguye ko FDU yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi.
Uribuka uko wansubije?
Waravuze ngo ariya matangazo yose "nitwe" twayateguraga ["nitwe" nahise numva ko bivuga ibikomerezwa byo muri MN-Inkubiri].

Ngirango uribuka ko kuva FDU yashingwa kugeza ejo bundi wowe na bagenzi bawe mushinze Inkubiri, wari mu bayobozi b'imena ba FDU.

Niba ibikubiye mu nyandiko zose za FDU ari ibitekerezo "byanyu", kuva aho muviriye muri FDU wampa urugero rumwe rukumbi rw'ihame rya FDU abayobozi bashya ba FDU bavuguruye bagamije kwitandukanya n'ibitekerezo "byanyu", bityo akaba ari ho uhera ushinja FDU guhakana/gupfobya jenoside yakorewe abatutsi?

Ikindi kintu wagombye gusobanurira abanyarwanda ni iki:

Kuki usaba FDU kwitandukanya na MRND (iregwa gukora jenoside yakorewe abatutsi) ariko ntusabe New RNC/RNC kwitandukanya na RPF (iregwa gukora genoside yakorewe abahutu)?

Uzabaririze hose uzasanga yaba Rudasingwa, yaba Kayumba, Musonera,etc. nta n'umwe muri bariya bantu bahoze muri RPF uvuga ko RPF yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abahutu.

Kubyerekeye MRND ngira ngo urabizi neza ko yaba TPIR (Loni) yaba RPF, bose kugeza ubu babuze gihamya ko MRND yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abatutsi.

Niba rero utabogamiye kuri New RNC, erura usabe mushuti wawe Rudasigwa na bagenzi be kwerura bagashinja RPF gutsemba abahutu.

Niba nta butwari ufite bwo kubikora, hita ufasha hasi MRND ukora amalisiti y'abicanyi waba uzi bahoze muri MRND nk'uko bagenzi bawe bo muri New RNC ari ko babigenje ubwo batangazaga ilisiti y'abantu ngo bagomba kubazwa jenoside yakorewe abahutu (ikozwe na RPF).

Gira amahoro.

NB: Iyi ngingo sinyigarukaho.


From: Umunsi <umunsi@bluewin.ch>
To: "collectifcres@googlegroups.com" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Collectif CRES], Fw: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

Bwana Nzinink,

Nta gishya mvuze muri ibi. Uzi impaka zabaye muri FDU mu gihe cya CPR cy'ukwitandukanya na FDRL ya Mudacumura, ukanamenya ko FDU y'ubu ari akana ka RDR kuzuye, ukanongeraho ugucikamo kabiri kwa FDRL mo kabiri mu minsi ishize, ntiwagombye kubaza icyo kibazo. Nta gishya rero.

Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere.

Kabeho.

Le 2 oct. 2016 à 16:43, "'Nzinink' via CRES" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com> a écrit :


"Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDLR....", Nkiko Nsengimana.

Ibi bintu njye ndabona ari agahoma munwa.
Mme Ingabire mu byo aregwa na RPF harimo gushinga umutwe wa gisirikare ugizwe n'ahoze muri FDLR.

Bwana Nkiko, wadushyirira ahagaragara gihamya ko FDLR ari igisikari cya FDU? 

Mbaye ngushimiye.

Izi ngabo za FDLR njye mbona zaragowe. Uyu munsi uravuga ko ari iza FDU, mu gihe ejo zari iza Kayumba bukeye bwahi zikaba iza Rukokoma. Igitangaje muri ibi byose ni uko na MN-Inkubiri yawe nayo nabonye muri iyi minsi bivugwa ko irimo kugera FDLR amajanja!

Mfite rwose amatsiko yo kumenya neza ikintu kihishe inyuma y'iri sisibiranyarya hato na hato kandi ridakwiye ku muntu uzwi ko ari inararibonye mu bya politiki.

Nzinink

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Umunsi umunsi@bluewin.ch [AVM_Populi] <AVM_Populi@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 
Munyabagisha uraho! Ngushimiye iki kibazo umbajije. Nyemerera ngusubize.

Uragira uti abatwiciye ni bande. 

Abatwiciye ni ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana n'inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR ya Kagame.

Abatwiciye b'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, indege yarimo imaze guhanurwa na FPR, biraye mu batutsi bari mu gihugu n'abataravugaga rumwe barabatsemba. Ibyo narabibonye, nawe kandi warabibonye. Dukomoka hamwe wabonye ko nta rindi bendera ryari riri i Gitarama uretse nyine irya MRND na CDR. Wabonye amahano n'amarorerwa yakoreshejwe na Kalisiti Nzabonimana amaze kugera iwacu i Gitarama. Mbere y'aho, imihoro yarengeraga abatutsi yarushaga imbaraga iyashakaga kubarimbura. Nyuma aho haziye imbunda z'abo, ibintu byahinduye isura, amahano aragwa, ariyo yiswe itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Mu Rwanda ngo iryo jambo barisimbuje irindi ryitwa jenoside. Sinzi impamvu kandi ijambo itsembabwoko ryumvisha uburemere bw'amahano yaguye mu gihugu.

Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDRL biyobowe n'abonse ingoma ya Habyarimana, nti nimutinyuke, niba koko muharanira abanyarwanda, muvuge ko itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi ryakozwe n'ingoma ya Habyarimana. Nibo mbambwira ngo nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye kuko iyo ngoma yishe abanyarwanda, kandi abatutsi bari mu gihugu ni abanyarwanda buzuye. Abo bantubo buri FDU, nibatabikora ubwo uzamenya uruhare baherereyemo.

Abatwiciye bandi ni inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR na Kagame. 

Aha twagize amahirwe akomeye umuntu nka Rudasingwa Theogene warwanye urugamba mu mirimo bamushinze, akaba umunyamabanga mukuru wa FPR, abihamya, kandi akavuga ko ingoma yonse yakoze itsembabwoko ry'abahutu. Ikindi gikomeye kandi gishya n'uko yatubwiye ba nyempara b'iryo tsembatsemba, barimo Kagame na Kayumba. 

Iyo mvuga rero nti nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye, mbambwira abanyarwanda bari mu gihugu nti, iyo ngoma yamennye amaraso y'abanyarwanda, cyane cyane y'abahutu, mugire ubutwari, iyi ngoma yabiciye mwihomaho, n'ejo ntizabacira akari urutega, muyegukeho, muyirwanye, nta mpuhwe na rimwe izabagirira, nkuko yamennye amaraso y'abanyu, ntizatinya kumena n'ayanyu.

Nashakaga kandi kubwira abihoma inyuma ya Kayumba Nyamwasa, bo mw'ishyaka rya RNC, ngo bamwegukeho, bamuzibukire kuva bamenye ko ari mubari kw'isonga ryo kumena amaraso no gukora amahano y'itsembabwoko ry'abahutu. 

Icyakora naravuze nti Kayna yemeye ko we bwite yakoze ayo mahano, bikaba bimubabaje, ariko akemera nk'icyiru kudufasha guhirika iriya ngoma, twabyakira. 

Yaba atabyemeye, bikavuga ko agifite gahunda yo kwimakaza ubwoko bumwe, agishaka gutsemba ubundi.

Munyabagisha unyumva uranyumvise?

Nkiko Nsengimana


Le 1 oct. 2016 à 13:47, "fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com" <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> a écrit :

"Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye" (nkiko)

N-kubahwa Nkiko, nyemerera nkubaze tuganire.

1- uguze uti "mureke",  ugira ngo DUkore iki?
Narasomye ngutega amatwi aliko sinasobanukirwa ku ngingo nyinshi, entre autres abatwiciye uvuga ni bande. Urujijo rushobora kuba rushamitse ku mayobera y.amaculi y.intwali n.inzigo. car i rwanda ndetse n.ahandi les fossoyeurs des uns sont des heros des autres. 
Unfashije gusobanukurwa " ababiciye" abo ali bo waba ugize neza 

2- Hali aho usa n.ushimangira ibyavuzwe n.abatabazwa ubushishozi nka wa munya Cote d.Ivoire Degni. N.ubwo  koko icuo gihe mu Rwanda halimo kuba genocide y.abiswe n.abiyita abatutsi, mvuze mvuga abiswe muli rusange, imibare yabaye ikirangirire ivuga ko nta mututsi ukuba i rwanda wali urulimo muli 94 avrl mai. 850k! Arusha nawe wagiye gutangayo isesengura ry.aliya mahano. Nasomye ko wasobanuliye inkongoro mu ngoro y'intsinzi (Nuremberg) ko genocide yateguwe n.abaregwagwa. Ubu uretse kuli Kagame n.abahutu be (abo ahatse na na kadihirambetezi), kwemeza biliya nyuma y.ibyigaragaza byaba bihatse kugira nkana byo gutinya urumuli rw.umunsi. 

3- Uti "mureke..."! 
Mu"!? Iyo byibuze wandika Tu!  Nibyo koko mureke tuve mu magambo, tujye mu mudiho bitsli ibyo gushyenga no gushyayaya- duhaguruke duhangamure urwanda aho Rudahigwa yasize arumanitse, ni ukuvuga mu makimbirane y.injiji. 
Abatwiciye ni bo bicanyi, twe ntituli abicanyi. Baratwiciye bica ku babo, bo na bo nyaho bahuliye. Tubareke rero. Ahubwo dusesengure dushikamye iicyabakukiyemo kikabatera imhumeko y.ubwicanyi.  bimbanye byinshi reka mhinire aha.


Best regards  /  Tout.pour le meilleur / Imhagarike!

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[haguruka.com] Rendez-vous manqué au Rwanda?

 


Rendez-vous manqué au Rwanda?

Lundi 03 octobre 2016  
- Mohamed Musadak

«Le Rwanda a rendez-vous avec l'avenir.» Le titre, un peu pompeux, de notre série d'articles sur le développement dans ce petit pays témoigne d'une volonté de montrer une image positive du continent noir, celle d'une Afrique triomphante.

Si l'enthousiasme à éviter les clichés misérabilistes à propos des pays d'Afrique subsaharienne est légitime, il ne doit pas empêcher d'être lucide. Certes, le pays des mille collines a fait des progrès fulgurants –aller à Kigali suffit pour s'en convaincre–, mais ceux-ci profitent-ils réellement à la population?

Considéré comme le septième pays le mieux géré du monde et le sixième en matière d'égalité homme-femme par le World economic forum, le Rwanda est surtout adoubé par des institutions emblématiques d'une mondialisation ultralibérale et inégalitaire. Des trophées qui sont tout autant d'artifices pour farder une réalité moins reluisante.

Alors que le gouvernement s'équipe de drones autonomes pour livrer les hôpitaux et de 4G dans les bus de la capitale, la pauvreté, elle, n'a que peu baissé. Le pays se place au 166e rang du classement mondial du PIB par habitant, soulignant un décalage important entre les desseins futuristes du président de la république, Paul Kagamé, et la réalité du terrain.

Aux droits économiques s'ajoute la problématique des droits démocratiques et des libertés fondamentales. La presse indépendante n'existe pas, les disparitions d'opposants politiques – ce qu'il en reste – sont fréquentes. Le malaise est omniprésent et la répression n'est jamais bien loin.

Faut-il pour autant jeter aux orties les politiques menées jusque-là? Malgré son autoritarisme, Paul Kagamé a eu le mérite d'investir les deniers publics pour améliorer les infrastructures du pays, plutôt que pour son enrichissement personnel.

Vingt-deux ans après le génocide, le Rwanda dispose d'un réseau de santé performant et d'un système éducatif efficace, faisant passer le taux d'alphabétisation à 70%, contre 55% en 1994.

Les universités champignonnent et permettront peut-être à la jeune génération – 40% de la population a moins de 15 ans – de tenter d'amorcer un tournant démocratique. En 2017, Paul Kagamé sera vraisemblablement réélu pour un troisième septennat avec un score soviétique. Sept longues années qui laisseraient mûrir les aspirations des jeunes. Si le Rwanda a rendez-vous avec l'avenir, ce dernier a pris un peu de retard.

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[haguruka.com] TR: {UAH} Slain French priest to be beatified two years from now!

 


This  " The slain French priest, Rev Fr Jacques Hamel ( 85 ), whose throat was slit by a Jihaddist terrorist on July 26, 2016 while he was saying Mass in his parish church at St-Etienne-du-Rouvray is going to be beatified as a martyr in two years' time. "" is a very good news . 
Then a wise one would ask the "Holy See" why father Guy Pinard a Canadian priest shot dead on the altar during the mass, exactly like this French priest, in a northern parish of  Rwanda has not been also honored the same way? Is it because he was killed in African jungle or Canada has less value than France? 
Just asking Sir/Madam

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France priest: Jihadist attack church re-opens

  • 2 October 2016
  • From the section Europe
Archbishop Dominique Lebrun leads a procession through Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, France, prior to a special Mass. 2 Oct 2017Image copyright AFP Image caption A procession through the town was led by Archbishop of Rouen Dominique Lebrun

The French church where an elderly priest was murdered by Islamist extremists has opened its doors for the first time since the attack on 26 July.

A special service began with a procession through the town of Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, in Normandy.

In the church itself, the Archbishop of Rouen Dominique Lebrun sprinkled holy water as a sign of purification.

Many Muslims also attended the ceremony, which was relayed on a big screen in the town square.

The attack was claimed by two followers of so-called Islamic State, who were shot dead by police afterwards.

The attackers slit the throat of 85-year-old Father Jacques Hamel at the foot of the altar in front of parishioners after bursting into the church during Mass.

Thousands attended Fr Hamel's funeral in the city of Rouen in August.

Father Jacques Hamel seen reading in an undated imageImage copyright Catholic Diocese of Rouen HO Image caption Father Jacques Hamel was killed while celebrating Mass Police secure a square before a Mass celebrated for the re-opening of the church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, near Rouen, France, 2 October 2016Image copyright EPA Image caption Security was tight for Sunday's special service Archbishop of Rouen Dominique Lebrun leads a Mass celebrated for re-opening of Saint Etienne church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray. 2 October 2016Image copyright CHRISTOPHE PETIT TESSON Image caption Archbishop Dominique Lebrun led a special Mass inside the church People attend a Catholic mass celebrated for re-opening of Saint Etienne church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, France, 2 October 2016Image copyright EPA Image caption The small church was packed for the ceremony

"This is a new stage of healing, of convalescence," said town mayor Hubert Wulfranc, who hopes to erect a monument in memory of Fr Hamel.

Mafalda Pace, 81, who lives next door to the 16th-Century church, said Fr Hamel was "a good priest".

"I always went to see him and he never refused to be of service," she told AFP news agency.

The killing of Fr Hamel shocked France. It came after an attack that killed 86 people on Bastille Day when a militant Islamist drove a lorry into crowds in the southern city of Nice.


On 3 October 2016 at 00:38, georges colot <kkolokolo.george@gmail.com> wrote:
The slain French priest, Rev Fr Jacques Hamel ( 85 ), whose throat was slit
by a Jihaddist terrorist on July 26, 2016 while he was saying Mass in his parish
church at St-Etienne-du-Rouvray is going to be beatified as a martyr in two years' time.
The news of his murder which shook the whole world was equally received with great shock by Pope Francis who has now formally informed the Archbishop of Rouen whose full jurisdiction covers St-Etienn-du-Rouvray that  he has decided to waive the canonical delay of five years ( counting from the day the candidate died ) that have to lapse before any procedure of glorification in the Roman Catholic has to start.
The Archbishop of Rouen disclosed this news to the hundreds of people who had gathered at the parish church to witness its re-opening to the public since the day it was closed following the murder of the old priest. The church was packed to full capacity and hundreds of others had to follow the ceremonies on a mega-screen planted outside. The Archbishop, surrounded by the parish priest, an African from West Africa, cleansed the altar with holy water and blessed a number of statues.
He also administered special blessings on the door the assailant used to enter in the parish church. The Pope has authorized the Archbishop to specially consecrate this door as a Holy Door to be used by pilgrims and faithful during the remaining part of this Holy Year of Mercy. Using this Holy door will bring special graces to the faithful who will pass through it to enter the church..
The ceremonies brought many Moslems attracted byu the message of brotherly solidarity.
The slain priest has now become an instant hero. His beatification will go through very smoothly as he doesn't need to do any miracle because he's officially recognized as a martyr. As for his canonization as an official saint of the Catholic Church he will need to do a miracle. But in this case the Pope may also dispense with any such miracle and just proceed with the canonization as he did for Pope John XXIII whose spiritual grandeur and great high achievements as Pope spoke bigger than a mere miracle. Rumours point to the same trend in anticipation of an eventual glorification of Pope Pius XII.
As for the murderers of the old priest, they were arrested having been betrayed by a sentence they posted on social media. The police traced the origin of this sentence and finally got the culprits. Severe judgement is awaiting them.

Dr G.H. Kkolokolo  ( Paris / France )

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[haguruka.com] Re: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

 

Bwana Nkiko uragira uti:

"Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU-Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi [igakorwa] n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere".

Mu minsi ishize nakweretse inyandiko zivuga zizataziguye ko FDU yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi.
Uribuka uko wansubije?
Waravuze ngo ariya matangazo yose "nitwe" twayateguraga ["nitwe" nahise numva ko bivuga ibikomerezwa byo muri MN-Inkubiri].

Ngirango uribuka ko kuva FDU yashingwa kugeza ejo bundi wowe na bagenzi bawe mushinze Inkubiri, wari mu bayobozi b'imena ba FDU.

Niba ibikubiye mu nyandiko zose za FDU ari ibitekerezo "byanyu", kuva aho muviriye muri FDU wampa urugero rumwe rukumbi rw'ihame rya FDU abayobozi bashya ba FDU bavuguruye bagamije kwitandukanya n'ibitekerezo "byanyu", bityo akaba ari ho uhera ushinja FDU guhakana/gupfobya jenoside yakorewe abatutsi?

Ikindi kintu wagombye gusobanurira abanyarwanda ni iki:

Kuki usaba FDU kwitandukanya na MRND (iregwa gukora jenoside yakorewe abatutsi) ariko ntusabe New RNC/RNC kwitandukanya na RPF (iregwa gukora genoside yakorewe abahutu)?

Uzabaririze hose uzasanga yaba Rudasingwa, yaba Kayumba, Musonera,etc. nta n'umwe muri bariya bantu bahoze muri RPF uvuga ko RPF yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abahutu.

Kubyerekeye MRND ngira ngo urabizi neza ko yaba TPIR (Loni) yaba RPF, bose kugeza ubu babuze gihamya ko MRND yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abatutsi.

Niba rero utabogamiye kuri New RNC, erura usabe mushuti wawe Rudasigwa na bagenzi be kwerura bagashinja RPF gutsemba abahutu.

Niba nta butwari ufite bwo kubikora, hita ufasha hasi MRND ukora amalisiti y'abicanyi waba uzi bahoze muri MRND nk'uko bagenzi bawe bo muri New RNC ari ko babigenje ubwo batangazaga ilisiti y'abantu ngo bagomba kubazwa jenoside yakorewe abahutu (ikozwe na RPF).

Gira amahoro.

NB: Iyi ngingo sinyigarukaho.


From: Umunsi <umunsi@bluewin.ch>
To: "collectifcres@googlegroups.com" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [Collectif CRES], Fw: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

Bwana Nzinink,

Nta gishya mvuze muri ibi. Uzi impaka zabaye muri FDU mu gihe cya CPR cy'ukwitandukanya na FDRL ya Mudacumura, ukanamenya ko FDU y'ubu ari akana ka RDR kuzuye, ukanongeraho ugucikamo kabiri kwa FDRL mo kabiri mu minsi ishize, ntiwagombye kubaza icyo kibazo. Nta gishya rero.

Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere.

Kabeho.

Le 2 oct. 2016 à 16:43, "'Nzinink' via CRES" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com> a écrit :


"Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDLR....", Nkiko Nsengimana.

Ibi bintu njye ndabona ari agahoma munwa.
Mme Ingabire mu byo aregwa na RPF harimo gushinga umutwe wa gisirikare ugizwe n'ahoze muri FDLR.

Bwana Nkiko, wadushyirira ahagaragara gihamya ko FDLR ari igisikari cya FDU? 

Mbaye ngushimiye.

Izi ngabo za FDLR njye mbona zaragowe. Uyu munsi uravuga ko ari iza FDU, mu gihe ejo zari iza Kayumba bukeye bwahi zikaba iza Rukokoma. Igitangaje muri ibi byose ni uko na MN-Inkubiri yawe nayo nabonye muri iyi minsi bivugwa ko irimo kugera FDLR amajanja!

Mfite rwose amatsiko yo kumenya neza ikintu kihishe inyuma y'iri sisibiranyarya hato na hato kandi ridakwiye ku muntu uzwi ko ari inararibonye mu bya politiki.

Nzinink

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Umunsi umunsi@bluewin.ch [AVM_Populi] <AVM_Populi@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 
Munyabagisha uraho! Ngushimiye iki kibazo umbajije. Nyemerera ngusubize.

Uragira uti abatwiciye ni bande. 

Abatwiciye ni ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana n'inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR ya Kagame.

Abatwiciye b'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, indege yarimo imaze guhanurwa na FPR, biraye mu batutsi bari mu gihugu n'abataravugaga rumwe barabatsemba. Ibyo narabibonye, nawe kandi warabibonye. Dukomoka hamwe wabonye ko nta rindi bendera ryari riri i Gitarama uretse nyine irya MRND na CDR. Wabonye amahano n'amarorerwa yakoreshejwe na Kalisiti Nzabonimana amaze kugera iwacu i Gitarama. Mbere y'aho, imihoro yarengeraga abatutsi yarushaga imbaraga iyashakaga kubarimbura. Nyuma aho haziye imbunda z'abo, ibintu byahinduye isura, amahano aragwa, ariyo yiswe itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Mu Rwanda ngo iryo jambo barisimbuje irindi ryitwa jenoside. Sinzi impamvu kandi ijambo itsembabwoko ryumvisha uburemere bw'amahano yaguye mu gihugu.

Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDRL biyobowe n'abonse ingoma ya Habyarimana, nti nimutinyuke, niba koko muharanira abanyarwanda, muvuge ko itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi ryakozwe n'ingoma ya Habyarimana. Nibo mbambwira ngo nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye kuko iyo ngoma yishe abanyarwanda, kandi abatutsi bari mu gihugu ni abanyarwanda buzuye. Abo bantubo buri FDU, nibatabikora ubwo uzamenya uruhare baherereyemo.

Abatwiciye bandi ni inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR na Kagame. 

Aha twagize amahirwe akomeye umuntu nka Rudasingwa Theogene warwanye urugamba mu mirimo bamushinze, akaba umunyamabanga mukuru wa FPR, abihamya, kandi akavuga ko ingoma yonse yakoze itsembabwoko ry'abahutu. Ikindi gikomeye kandi gishya n'uko yatubwiye ba nyempara b'iryo tsembatsemba, barimo Kagame na Kayumba. 

Iyo mvuga rero nti nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye, mbambwira abanyarwanda bari mu gihugu nti, iyo ngoma yamennye amaraso y'abanyarwanda, cyane cyane y'abahutu, mugire ubutwari, iyi ngoma yabiciye mwihomaho, n'ejo ntizabacira akari urutega, muyegukeho, muyirwanye, nta mpuhwe na rimwe izabagirira, nkuko yamennye amaraso y'abanyu, ntizatinya kumena n'ayanyu.

Nashakaga kandi kubwira abihoma inyuma ya Kayumba Nyamwasa, bo mw'ishyaka rya RNC, ngo bamwegukeho, bamuzibukire kuva bamenye ko ari mubari kw'isonga ryo kumena amaraso no gukora amahano y'itsembabwoko ry'abahutu. 

Icyakora naravuze nti Kayna yemeye ko we bwite yakoze ayo mahano, bikaba bimubabaje, ariko akemera nk'icyiru kudufasha guhirika iriya ngoma, twabyakira. 

Yaba atabyemeye, bikavuga ko agifite gahunda yo kwimakaza ubwoko bumwe, agishaka gutsemba ubundi.

Munyabagisha unyumva uranyumvise?

Nkiko Nsengimana


Le 1 oct. 2016 à 13:47, "fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com" <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> a écrit :

"Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye" (nkiko)

N-kubahwa Nkiko, nyemerera nkubaze tuganire.

1- uguze uti "mureke",  ugira ngo DUkore iki?
Narasomye ngutega amatwi aliko sinasobanukirwa ku ngingo nyinshi, entre autres abatwiciye uvuga ni bande. Urujijo rushobora kuba rushamitse ku mayobera y.amaculi y.intwali n.inzigo. car i rwanda ndetse n.ahandi les fossoyeurs des uns sont des heros des autres. 
Unfashije gusobanukurwa " ababiciye" abo ali bo waba ugize neza 

2- Hali aho usa n.ushimangira ibyavuzwe n.abatabazwa ubushishozi nka wa munya Cote d.Ivoire Degni. N.ubwo  koko icuo gihe mu Rwanda halimo kuba genocide y.abiswe n.abiyita abatutsi, mvuze mvuga abiswe muli rusange, imibare yabaye ikirangirire ivuga ko nta mututsi ukuba i rwanda wali urulimo muli 94 avrl mai. 850k! Arusha nawe wagiye gutangayo isesengura ry.aliya mahano. Nasomye ko wasobanuliye inkongoro mu ngoro y'intsinzi (Nuremberg) ko genocide yateguwe n.abaregwagwa. Ubu uretse kuli Kagame n.abahutu be (abo ahatse na na kadihirambetezi), kwemeza biliya nyuma y.ibyigaragaza byaba bihatse kugira nkana byo gutinya urumuli rw.umunsi. 

3- Uti "mureke..."! 
Mu"!? Iyo byibuze wandika Tu!  Nibyo koko mureke tuve mu magambo, tujye mu mudiho bitsli ibyo gushyenga no gushyayaya- duhaguruke duhangamure urwanda aho Rudahigwa yasize arumanitse, ni ukuvuga mu makimbirane y.injiji. 
Abatwiciye ni bo bicanyi, twe ntituli abicanyi. Baratwiciye bica ku babo, bo na bo nyaho bahuliye. Tubareke rero. Ahubwo dusesengure dushikamye iicyabakukiyemo kikabatera imhumeko y.ubwicanyi.  bimbanye byinshi reka mhinire aha.


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[haguruka.com] Re: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

 

Komera Nkiko.

Urakoze kunsobanurira neza uko ubibona n'ubwo ntaho bihuriye n'ukuri.
Ntegereje no kumenya uko ubona iki gitekerezo Munyabagisha yakugejrjeho ejo bundi, maze iyi ngingo sinyigarukeho:

"Nasomye ko wasobanuliye inkongoro mu ngoro y'intsinzi (Nuremberg) ko genocide yateguwe n'abaregwagwa. Ubu uretse kuli Kagame n'abahutu be (abo ahatse na ba kadihirambetezi), kwemeza biliya nyuma y'ibyigaragaza byaba bihatse kugira nkana byo gutinya urumuli rw'umunsi", Francois Munyabagisha, CRES, le 1 Octobre 2016.

Gira Amahoro ya Kristu.

On Oct 2, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Umunsi <umunsi@bluewin.ch> wrote:

Bwana Nzinink,

Nta gishya mvuze muri ibi. Uzi impaka zabaye muri FDU mu gihe cya CPR cy'ukwitandukanya na FDRL ya Mudacumura, ukanamenya ko FDU y'ubu ari akana ka RDR kuzuye, ukanongeraho ugucikamo kabiri kwa FDRL mo kabiri mu minsi ishize, ntiwagombye kubaza icyo kibazo. Nta gishya rero.

Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere.

Kabeho.

Le 2 oct. 2016 à 16:43, "'Nzinink' via CRES" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com> a écrit :


"Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDLR....", Nkiko Nsengimana.

Ibi bintu njye ndabona ari agahoma munwa.
Mme Ingabire mu byo aregwa na RPF harimo gushinga umutwe wa gisirikare ugizwe n'ahoze muri FDLR.

Bwana Nkiko, wadushyirira ahagaragara gihamya ko FDLR ari igisikari cya FDU? 

Mbaye ngushimiye.

Izi ngabo za FDLR njye mbona zaragowe. Uyu munsi uravuga ko ari iza FDU, mu gihe ejo zari iza Kayumba bukeye bwahi zikaba iza Rukokoma. Igitangaje muri ibi byose ni uko na MN-Inkubiri yawe nayo nabonye muri iyi minsi bivugwa ko irimo kugera FDLR amajanja!

Mfite rwose amatsiko yo kumenya neza ikintu kihishe inyuma y'iri sisibiranyarya hato na hato kandi ridakwiye ku muntu uzwi ko ari inararibonye mu bya politiki.

Nzinink

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Umunsi umunsi@bluewin.ch [AVM_Populi] <AVM_Populi@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 

Munyabagisha uraho! Ngushimiye iki kibazo umbajije. Nyemerera ngusubize.

Uragira uti abatwiciye ni bande. 

Abatwiciye ni ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana n'inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR ya Kagame.

Abatwiciye b'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, indege yarimo imaze guhanurwa na FPR, biraye mu batutsi bari mu gihugu n'abataravugaga rumwe barabatsemba. Ibyo narabibonye, nawe kandi warabibonye. Dukomoka hamwe wabonye ko nta rindi bendera ryari riri i Gitarama uretse nyine irya MRND na CDR. Wabonye amahano n'amarorerwa yakoreshejwe na Kalisiti Nzabonimana amaze kugera iwacu i Gitarama. Mbere y'aho, imihoro yarengeraga abatutsi yarushaga imbaraga iyashakaga kubarimbura. Nyuma aho haziye imbunda z'abo, ibintu byahinduye isura, amahano aragwa, ariyo yiswe itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Mu Rwanda ngo iryo jambo barisimbuje irindi ryitwa jenoside. Sinzi impamvu kandi ijambo itsembabwoko ryumvisha uburemere bw'amahano yaguye mu gihugu.

Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDRL biyobowe n'abonse ingoma ya Habyarimana, nti nimutinyuke, niba koko muharanira abanyarwanda, muvuge ko itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi ryakozwe n'ingoma ya Habyarimana. Nibo mbambwira ngo nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye kuko iyo ngoma yishe abanyarwanda, kandi abatutsi bari mu gihugu ni abanyarwanda buzuye. Abo bantubo buri FDU, nibatabikora ubwo uzamenya uruhare baherereyemo.

Abatwiciye bandi ni inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR na Kagame. 

Aha twagize amahirwe akomeye umuntu nka Rudasingwa Theogene warwanye urugamba mu mirimo bamushinze, akaba umunyamabanga mukuru wa FPR, abihamya, kandi akavuga ko ingoma yonse yakoze itsembabwoko ry'abahutu. Ikindi gikomeye kandi gishya n'uko yatubwiye ba nyempara b'iryo tsembatsemba, barimo Kagame na Kayumba. 

Iyo mvuga rero nti nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye, mbambwira abanyarwanda bari mu gihugu nti, iyo ngoma yamennye amaraso y'abanyarwanda, cyane cyane y'abahutu, mugire ubutwari, iyi ngoma yabiciye mwihomaho, n'ejo ntizabacira akari urutega, muyegukeho, muyirwanye, nta mpuhwe na rimwe izabagirira, nkuko yamennye amaraso y'abanyu, ntizatinya kumena n'ayanyu.

Nashakaga kandi kubwira abihoma inyuma ya Kayumba Nyamwasa, bo mw'ishyaka rya RNC, ngo bamwegukeho, bamuzibukire kuva bamenye ko ari mubari kw'isonga ryo kumena amaraso no gukora amahano y'itsembabwoko ry'abahutu. 

Icyakora naravuze nti Kayna yemeye ko we bwite yakoze ayo mahano, bikaba bimubabaje, ariko akemera nk'icyiru kudufasha guhirika iriya ngoma, twabyakira. 

Yaba atabyemeye, bikavuga ko agifite gahunda yo kwimakaza ubwoko bumwe, agishaka gutsemba ubundi.

Munyabagisha unyumva uranyumvise?

Nkiko Nsengimana


Le 1 oct. 2016 à 13:47, "fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com" <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> a écrit :

"Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye" (nkiko)


N-kubahwa Nkiko, nyemerera nkubaze tuganire.


1- uguze uti "mureke",  ugira ngo DUkore iki?

Narasomye ngutega amatwi aliko sinasobanukirwa ku ngingo nyinshi, entre autres abatwiciye uvuga ni bande. Urujijo rushobora kuba rushamitse ku mayobera y.amaculi y.intwali n.inzigo. car i rwanda ndetse n.ahandi les fossoyeurs des uns sont des heros des autres. 

Unfashije gusobanukurwa " ababiciye" abo ali bo waba ugize neza 


2- Hali aho usa n.ushimangira ibyavuzwe n.abatabazwa ubushishozi nka wa munya Cote d.Ivoire Degni. N.ubwo  koko icuo gihe mu Rwanda halimo kuba genocide y.abiswe n.abiyita abatutsi, mvuze mvuga abiswe muli rusange, imibare yabaye ikirangirire ivuga ko nta mututsi ukuba i rwanda wali urulimo muli 94 avrl mai. 850k! Arusha nawe wagiye gutangayo isesengura ry.aliya mahano. Nasomye ko wasobanuliye inkongoro mu ngoro y'intsinzi (Nuremberg) ko genocide yateguwe n.abaregwagwa. Ubu uretse kuli Kagame n.abahutu be (abo ahatse na na kadihirambetezi), kwemeza biliya nyuma y.ibyigaragaza byaba bihatse kugira nkana byo gutinya urumuli rw.umunsi. 


3- Uti "mureke..."! 

Mu"!? Iyo byibuze wandika Tu!  Nibyo koko mureke tuve mu magambo, tujye mu mudiho bitsli ibyo gushyenga no gushyayaya- duhaguruke duhangamure urwanda aho Rudahigwa yasize arumanitse, ni ukuvuga mu makimbirane y.injiji. 

Abatwiciye ni bo bicanyi, twe ntituli abicanyi. Baratwiciye bica ku babo, bo na bo nyaho bahuliye. Tubareke rero. Ahubwo dusesengure dushikamye iicyabakukiyemo kikabatera imhumeko y.ubwicanyi.  bimbanye byinshi reka mhinire aha.



Best regards  /  Tout.pour le meilleur / Imhagarike!


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“The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

“The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.”

“I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile."

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