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[haguruka.com] Re: TR: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: THE ECONOMIST @Rwanda: A hilly dilemma. Should Paul Kagame be backed for providing stability and prosperity or condemned for stifling democracy?

 

Kota,
Tu as touché a la demographie galopante du Rwanda. Je ne suis pas sur que le Gouvernement actuel, avec toutes ses bonnes intentions, a formule une politique de la population pour le pays. Je crois que l'ONAPO a ete emporte par "le genocide". Mais peut-on parler de developpement, de la lute contre la pauvrete, de l'education et des services sociaux sans les faire correspondre a une politique visant a contenir la poussee demographique, pour empecher que les ressources nationales ne deviennent trop insuffisantes pour la population? Et que  l'impossibilite mathematique ou statistique de partager ce qu'il y a entre tous les enfants du pays n'aboutisse sur une situation inegalitaire, qui risque de faire le lit d'un autre genocide?


Le Vendredi 11 mars 2016 10h12, kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com> a écrit :


Tout oiseau, toute creature a droit de chanter son cantique au reveil ou au moment opportun. 
A etre impartial, aucun de deux  groupes combattants rwandais n'a montre beaucoup de pitie envers le Rwanda. Le temoignage succinct de C Nsengiyunva  ci-dessous est assez eloquent. Et un autre petit apport pour preuve: y a-t-il quelqu'un qui peut retrouver les jolies residences de Habyarimana, Zigiranyirazo qui arboraient Gasaza, la maison en etage de la famille du ministre P. Nyiramasuhuhok a Butare? Qui les a detruites? 
TPIR-Arusha a rapporte des cas de destructions faites par ceux qui se battaient du cote Rwanda de l'Interieur, on y revient pas, sauf citer peut-etre la fameuse maison de senateur Safari Stanely qui est d'actualite.

Revenons au desastre humain  illustre dans le graphe tire des donnees FAO 2005 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Rwanda )
"According to the 2010 revison of the World Population Prospects the total population was 10 624 000 in 2010, compared to only 2 072 000 in 1950 (wikipedia)". Ce bon accroissement demographique merite une analyse de faits et causes beaucoup plus profonde que plusieurs declarations superficielles et amatrices de ceux qui se moquent des rwandais en singeant les cherir.  Le graphique dans Wikipedia est bien clair, ne coute rien, ne traumatise personne, et tout citoyen du monde peut le voir sans rien depenser ni en temps ni en argent. N'est-ce pas la un veritable memorial du drame rwandais, capitalise loin des intemperies spatiales et temporelles? Evidemment le graphe  n'arrange ni les interets politico-economiques  recherches  par quelques gouvernants et lobbies ni n'assouvit l'adrenaline pour les emotions et discrimination de certains. Il est bon pour ceux qui aiment les maths et s'en servent dans leur vie courante pour graver les faux pas dans  la marche humaine.  

Et finalement l'Economist ecrit: "Hospitals and universities were devastated, their staff butchered or in exile. "We lost a lot of scientists," Gerardine Mukeshimana, the minister of agriculture, says matter-of-factly, when explaining why the country has only limited capacity for agricultural research." 
Yes! Et quiconque a bien connu le Rwanda avoue que ministre Mukeshimana fait montre d'un certain courage, en osant ouvrir les yeux parmi les aveugles/courtisans. Lorsqu'on sait comment et pourquoi ISAE Busogo fut transfere a Kigali des 1992, les plantations et usine de the de Mulindi transformees en camp- centre d'operation militaire,  comment et pourquoi les services d'agriculture et de recherche agronomique furent vandalises partout ou simplement detruits, l'on ne peut que feliciter cette dame qui ose reconnaitre que la recherche n'est pas encore a la hauteur.  Elle semble avoir une opinion differente par rapport a sa predecesseure qui recevait plutot des medailles d'excellence!  

A graph showing Rwanda's total population, Data of FAO, year 2005 ; Number of inhabitants in thousands.





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Objet : [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: THE ECONOMIST @Rwanda: A hilly dilemma. Should Paul Kagame be backed for providing stability and prosperity or condemned for stifling democracy?
 
 
Essayez d'envoyer ces commentaires à THE ECONOMIST; j'ai vu qu'ils ont publié aujourd'hui une série d'articles sur le Rwanda dont un autre sur le gaz méthane du Kivu. Il m'est difficile de savoir les lobbies derrière ces publications. Mais c'est un journal important.

Le jeudi 10 mars 2016, Nsengiyumva Celestin <cnnsengi@yahoo.fr> a écrit :
> "Soldiers and militias loyal to the genocidal Hutu regime had systematically destroyed power plants and factories as they retreated".
> This is not true. Who shelled the NTARUKA hydropower plant? And the telecommunication station of Nyanza, near Kicukiro/Kigali? And health centers in Byumba? And the central maket of Kigali? It's true that our country needs reconstruction. But how do we build on foundations of lies?
>
> Le Jeudi 10 mars 2016 13h08, "Jean Bosco Sibomana mailto:sibomanaxyz999@gmail.com [uRwanda_rwacu]" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
>
>
>  
> Rwanda: A hilly dilemma. Should Paul Kagame be backed for providing stability and prosperity or condemned for stifling democracy? Mar 12th 2016 | KIGALI | From the print edition.
>
> AT SIX in the evening, as the streets start to throng with motorcycle taxis taking people home, a senior civil servant in Rwanda's ministry of infrastructure sits back at his desk with a large flask of tea. The security officers on the entrance may have already left, but on the second floor officials are settling in for several more hours of work. Glance at their targets—more than doubling the amount of electricity generated in the country, providing infrastructure in cities to accommodate an urban population twice its current level, and all by 2018—and you can see why they are still at their desks. This is a country in a hurry. Twenty-two years since the start of a genocidal civil war that killed about a fifth of the population (and 70% of the minority Tutsis) and saw a third of the survivors fleeing across its borders, Rwanda is still racing to rebuild itself. And the sternest taskmaster is its president, Paul Kagame, who led the rebel forces that ended the genocide and has since shaped the country.
>
> The country he liberated had suffered not just an unimaginable human disaster; it was also left wrecked at the end of the civil war. Soldiers and militias loyal to the genocidal Hutu regime had systematically destroyed power plants and factories as they retreated. Hospitals and universities were devastated, their staff butchered or in exile. "We lost a lot of scientists," Gerardine Mukeshimana, the minister of agriculture, says matter-of-factly, when explaining why the country has only limited capacity for agricultural research.
>
> In this section
>
> One step forward, one step backLet's go togetherPalace in the jungleA hilly dilemmaWhat lies beneath
>
> Reprints
>
> It was also still dangerous, as forces from the former government attacked across the border from bases in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), to the west, killing civilians and soldiers. "The hills were alive with the sounds of bazookas," recalls Praveen Moman, a British businessman who runs a string of eco-lodges in the region, of his visits in the late 1990s, years after the war had officially ended. "Now visitors get off the plane and think they've arrived in the Switzerland of Africa."
>
> By almost all social and economic measures Rwanda has proved to be the developing world's shining star. Income per capita has doubled since 2000 and, unlike most other countries in the region, it has managed to grow quickly while also reducing inequality. One reason is that its Tutsi-dominated government (it would contest this designation, since talk of ethnicity is firmly suppressed) has bucked the trend of many of its neighbours. Instead of crafting policies aimed at benefiting the kin of those in power, many of its resources have gone to improving the lives of the rural poor, who are largely Hutu. The UN Human Development Index shows that Rwanda had improved by more than any other country over the past 25 years.
>
> These achievements are the more impressive since Rwanda is small, hilly, overcrowded and landlocked. Yet with few natural resources other than its fertile soil and a few mines, it has cranked out average growth of 7.5% over the past 10 years.
>
> Much of its success is due to effective government. It has clamped down on corruption—Transparency international, a Berlin-based organisation, ranks it as the fourth-least corrupt country in Africa, and well above places such as Greece and Italy. It is also because its government is both disciplined and technocratic. Officials and ministers are expected to work hard and are held accountable through performance contracts that extend right down to local mayors and other community leaders. Those who fail to meet targets (or who fiddle the numbers) are swiftly fired.
>
> A third reason is that it has embraced economic policies that are friendly to investment, growth and trade with great vigour; it is rated by the World Bank as the easiest place in continental Africa to do business. Many of its policies read as if they could have been written by the IMF, or this newspaper. Take power, for instance. Instead of trying to boost supply by pouring money into a state-owned utility it has encouraged private investment. That has spurred a wave of projects including extracting gas from Lake Kivu (seearticle). "Rwanda is an absolute pleasure to do business in compared with a lot of other countries in Africa," says Paul Hinks, the CEO of Symbion Power, an American firm that is building one of them.
>
> Because of its relatively competent administrators and its commitment to the poor it has become the darling of Western governments and NGOs. More than a third of government revenues (and a tenth of GDP) come from aid. The fecund soils of its green capital, Kigali, sprout aid-agency offices like grass after the rains.
>
> The downside
>
> Yet those pouring money into Rwanda are confronted by a dilemma. As much as Rwanda has progressed on the economic front, its record is badly blotted when it comes to human rights. Domestic opponents of Mr Kagame have a nasty habit of getting locked up or being murdered, even once they have fled into exile.
>
> Another stain was Rwanda's destabilisation of the DRC in the late 1990s after Rwandan troops invaded to stop cross-border raids by forces of the former government. The subsequent violence led to more than 5m deaths and contributed to the disintegration of the DRC. Fear of Mr Kagame runs so deep that in Kigali's drinking holes people glance left and right, and drop their voices to a whisper, when venturing an opinion on him. With almost no opposition, and no obvious successor, Mr Kagame recently won an overwhelming mandate for changes to the constitution that will allow him to run for a third term in office in 2017 (and two more after that, potentially leaving him in power until 2034, when he will be only 76).
>
> The dilemma facing the West is whether to keep giving money to an authoritarian government with such scant regard for human rights and little more than the trappings of democracy. A consensus among aid and development workers in Kigali seems to be that it should; for in few other countries does assistance go so effectively to helping the poor. A broader conundrum facing the country's benefactors is whether they ought to press Mr Kagame not to run in 2017. Yet aside from limp statements of disapproval (America said it was "disappointed" by his decision) from a few countries, many diplomats privately question whether anyone else could hold the country together. They point to its neighbour, Burundi, which is falling towards a civil war that is already being marked by ethnic killings. Without Mr Kagame's firm hand, they argue, the miracle wrought in Rwanda could quickly be reversed.
>
> From the print edition: Middle East and Africa
>
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[haguruka.com] TR: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: THE ECONOMIST @Rwanda: A hilly dilemma. Should Paul Kagame be backed for providing stability and prosperity or condemned for stifling democracy?

 

Tout oiseau, toute creature a droit de chanter son cantique au reveil ou au moment opportun. 

A etre impartial, aucun de deux  groupes combattants rwandais n'a montre beaucoup de pitie envers le Rwanda. Le temoignage succinct de C Nsengiyunva  ci-dessous est assez eloquent. Et un autre petit apport pour preuve: y a-t-il quelqu'un qui peut retrouver les jolies residences de Habyarimana, Zigiranyirazo qui arboraient Gasaza, la maison en etage de la famille du ministre P. Nyiramasuhuhok a Butare? Qui les a detruites? 

TPIR-Arusha a rapporte des cas de destructions faites par ceux qui se battaient du cote Rwanda de l'Interieur, on y revient pas, sauf citer peut-etre la fameuse maison de senateur Safari Stanely qui est d'actualite.

Revenons au desastre humain  illustre dans le graphe tire des donnees FAO 2005 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Rwanda )
"According to the 2010 revison of the World Population Prospects the total population was 10 624 000 in 2010, compared to only 2 072 000 in 1950 (wikipedia)". Ce bon accroissement demographique merite une analyse de faits et causes beaucoup plus profonde que plusieurs declarations superficielles et amatrices de ceux qui se moquent des rwandais en singeant les cherir.  Le graphique dans Wikipedia est bien clair, ne coute rien, ne traumatise personne, et tout citoyen du monde peut le voir sans rien depenser ni en temps ni en argent. N'est-ce pas la un veritable memorial du drame rwandais, capitalise loin des intemperies spatiales et temporelles? Evidemment le graphe  n'arrange ni les interets politico-economiques  recherches  par quelques gouvernants et lobbies ni n'assouvit l'adrenaline pour les emotions et discrimination de certains. Il est bon pour ceux qui aiment les maths et s'en servent dans leur vie courante pour graver les faux pas dans  la marche humaine.  

Et finalement l'Economist ecrit: "Hospitals and universities were devastated, their staff butchered or in exile. "We lost a lot of scientists," Gerardine Mukeshimana, the minister of agriculture, says matter-of-factly, when explaining why the country has only limited capacity for agricultural research." 
Yes! Et quiconque a bien connu le Rwanda avoue que ministre Mukeshimana fait montre d'un certain courage, en osant ouvrir les yeux parmi les aveugles/courtisans. Lorsqu'on sait comment et pourquoi ISAE Busogo fut transfere a Kigali des 1992, les plantations et usine de the de Mulindi transformees en camp- centre d'operation militaire,  comment et pourquoi les services d'agriculture et de recherche agronomique furent vandalises partout ou simplement detruits, l'on ne peut que feliciter cette dame qui ose reconnaitre que la recherche n'est pas encore a la hauteur.  Elle semble avoir une opinion differente par rapport a sa predecesseure qui recevait plutot des medailles d'excellence!  

A graph showing Rwanda's total population, Data of FAO, year 2005 ; Number of inhabitants in thousands.





De : fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> de la part de Jean Bosco Sibomana sibomanaxyz999@gmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda] <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé : jeudi 10 mars 2016 20:29
À : Sibomana Jean Bosco
Objet : [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: THE ECONOMIST @Rwanda: A hilly dilemma. Should Paul Kagame be backed for providing stability and prosperity or condemned for stifling democracy?
 
 

Essayez d'envoyer ces commentaires à THE ECONOMIST; j'ai vu qu'ils ont publié aujourd'hui une série d'articles sur le Rwanda dont un autre sur le gaz méthane du Kivu. Il m'est difficile de savoir les lobbies derrière ces publications. Mais c'est un journal important.

Le jeudi 10 mars 2016, Nsengiyumva Celestin <cnnsengi@yahoo.fr> a écrit :
> "Soldiers and militias loyal to the genocidal Hutu regime had systematically destroyed power plants and factories as they retreated".
> This is not true. Who shelled the NTARUKA hydropower plant? And the telecommunication station of Nyanza, near Kicukiro/Kigali? And health centers in Byumba? And the central maket of Kigali? It's true that our country needs reconstruction. But how do we build on foundations of lies?
>
> Le Jeudi 10 mars 2016 13h08, "Jean Bosco Sibomana sibomanaxyz999@gmail.com [uRwanda_rwacu]" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
>
>
>  
> Rwanda: A hilly dilemma. Should Paul Kagame be backed for providing stability and prosperity or condemned for stifling democracy? Mar 12th 2016 | KIGALI | From the print edition.
>
> AT SIX in the evening, as the streets start to throng with motorcycle taxis taking people home, a senior civil servant in Rwanda's ministry of infrastructure sits back at his desk with a large flask of tea. The security officers on the entrance may have already left, but on the second floor officials are settling in for several more hours of work. Glance at their targets—more than doubling the amount of electricity generated in the country, providing infrastructure in cities to accommodate an urban population twice its current level, and all by 2018—and you can see why they are still at their desks. This is a country in a hurry. Twenty-two years since the start of a genocidal civil war that killed about a fifth of the population (and 70% of the minority Tutsis) and saw a third of the survivors fleeing across its borders, Rwanda is still racing to rebuild itself. And the sternest taskmaster is its president, Paul Kagame, who led the rebel forces that ended the genocide and has since shaped the country.
>
> The country he liberated had suffered not just an unimaginable human disaster; it was also left wrecked at the end of the civil war. Soldiers and militias loyal to the genocidal Hutu regime had systematically destroyed power plants and factories as they retreated. Hospitals and universities were devastated, their staff butchered or in exile. "We lost a lot of scientists," Gerardine Mukeshimana, the minister of agriculture, says matter-of-factly, when explaining why the country has only limited capacity for agricultural research.
>
> In this section
>
> One step forward, one step backLet's go togetherPalace in the jungleA hilly dilemmaWhat lies beneath
>
> Reprints
>
> It was also still dangerous, as forces from the former government attacked across the border from bases in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), to the west, killing civilians and soldiers. "The hills were alive with the sounds of bazookas," recalls Praveen Moman, a British businessman who runs a string of eco-lodges in the region, of his visits in the late 1990s, years after the war had officially ended. "Now visitors get off the plane and think they've arrived in the Switzerland of Africa."
>
> By almost all social and economic measures Rwanda has proved to be the developing world's shining star. Income per capita has doubled since 2000 and, unlike most other countries in the region, it has managed to grow quickly while also reducing inequality. One reason is that its Tutsi-dominated government (it would contest this designation, since talk of ethnicity is firmly suppressed) has bucked the trend of many of its neighbours. Instead of crafting policies aimed at benefiting the kin of those in power, many of its resources have gone to improving the lives of the rural poor, who are largely Hutu. The UN Human Development Index shows that Rwanda had improved by more than any other country over the past 25 years.
>
> These achievements are the more impressive since Rwanda is small, hilly, overcrowded and landlocked. Yet with few natural resources other than its fertile soil and a few mines, it has cranked out average growth of 7.5% over the past 10 years.
>
> Much of its success is due to effective government. It has clamped down on corruption—Transparency international, a Berlin-based organisation, ranks it as the fourth-least corrupt country in Africa, and well above places such as Greece and Italy. It is also because its government is both disciplined and technocratic. Officials and ministers are expected to work hard and are held accountable through performance contracts that extend right down to local mayors and other community leaders. Those who fail to meet targets (or who fiddle the numbers) are swiftly fired.
>
> A third reason is that it has embraced economic policies that are friendly to investment, growth and trade with great vigour; it is rated by the World Bank as the easiest place in continental Africa to do business. Many of its policies read as if they could have been written by the IMF, or this newspaper. Take power, for instance. Instead of trying to boost supply by pouring money into a state-owned utility it has encouraged private investment. That has spurred a wave of projects including extracting gas from Lake Kivu (seearticle). "Rwanda is an absolute pleasure to do business in compared with a lot of other countries in Africa," says Paul Hinks, the CEO of Symbion Power, an American firm that is building one of them.
>
> Because of its relatively competent administrators and its commitment to the poor it has become the darling of Western governments and NGOs. More than a third of government revenues (and a tenth of GDP) come from aid. The fecund soils of its green capital, Kigali, sprout aid-agency offices like grass after the rains.
>
> The downside
>
> Yet those pouring money into Rwanda are confronted by a dilemma. As much as Rwanda has progressed on the economic front, its record is badly blotted when it comes to human rights. Domestic opponents of Mr Kagame have a nasty habit of getting locked up or being murdered, even once they have fled into exile.
>
> Another stain was Rwanda's destabilisation of the DRC in the late 1990s after Rwandan troops invaded to stop cross-border raids by forces of the former government. The subsequent violence led to more than 5m deaths and contributed to the disintegration of the DRC. Fear of Mr Kagame runs so deep that in Kigali's drinking holes people glance left and right, and drop their voices to a whisper, when venturing an opinion on him. With almost no opposition, and no obvious successor, Mr Kagame recently won an overwhelming mandate for changes to the constitution that will allow him to run for a third term in office in 2017 (and two more after that, potentially leaving him in power until 2034, when he will be only 76).
>
> The dilemma facing the West is whether to keep giving money to an authoritarian government with such scant regard for human rights and little more than the trappings of democracy. A consensus among aid and development workers in Kigali seems to be that it should; for in few other countries does assistance go so effectively to helping the poor. A broader conundrum facing the country's benefactors is whether they ought to press Mr Kagame not to run in 2017. Yet aside from limp statements of disapproval (America said it was "disappointed" by his decision) from a few countries, many diplomats privately question whether anyone else could hold the country together. They point to its neighbour, Burundi, which is falling towards a civil war that is already being marked by ethnic killings. Without Mr Kagame's firm hand, they argue, the miracle wrought in Rwanda could quickly be reversed.
>
> From the print edition: Middle East and Africa
>
> --
> SIBOMANA Jean Bosco
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>
>
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-The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
-I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile.
-The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
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Thursday, 10 March 2016

Re: [haguruka.com] TR: *DHR* Paul Kagame State Visit to Guinea Conakry, 8 March 2016

 

Murarushwa n'ubusa ntimuzabuza urwanda n'abanyarwanda biyemeje kurukorera kutera imbere, kandi . Mureke HE yereke amahanga icyo urwanda rwibohoye, rushoboye no guteza Afrika imbere.  Agira inama abandi Bayobozi Bakuru bibindi bihugu, kandi ababimusa ni benshi

 
Benoit KAREKEZI NK..




Le Jeudi 10 mars 2016 15h14, "kota venant kotakori@hotmail.com [haguruka]" <haguruka@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :


 

Huu! Mbere yo gusimbukira bwana Billy wenda wiboneye umunyarwandakazi utaruhanya nk'abazungukazi, banza umenye neza niba Dr Bernard Kouchner inshuti magara ya HE yarabaye Guineen  na conseiller special wa A. Konde nkuko  imujaribu@yahoo.fr  abivuga,  noneho ubwo uraba ubonye umunwa w'inkoko ntakwirwa wongera kubaza amenyo yayo aho ali! Ibiradiyo byanyu bimwokeje igitutu none Kouchner arahagotse nk'umwe ujugunya utuzi aho inzu cyangwa se ishyamba lishya. 
Esclavage - Colonisation - Cooperation/Assistance - Genocides/Alliances: nguwo umugati mwiza ugabulirwa abanyafurika, yahitwa abawugabuye bakizibukira!



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Envoyé : jeudi 10 mars 2016 11:49
À : Billy Thekid; Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr; Innocent Twagiramungu; Lyarahoze Samuel; Semakweli; Nzinink; Christophe Tuvugishukuri; MUSABYIMANA JEAN DE DIEU; Zac Biampa; Semahoro; Sibomana Jean Bosco; Sharangabo Rufagari; SHEMA; Olivier Rukundo; Agnesmurebwayire; Anastase Gasana; Chantal Karara; Rudahi20; Shankuru Maurice; Kota Venant; Francois Munyabagisha; Rwagasana Gerard; Joseph Matata; Shingiro Mbonyumutwa; Ndagijimana Jean-Marie; Pierre Nzabagerageza; Samuel Desire; JACQUES KANYAMIBWA
Objet : Re: *DHR* Paul Kagame State Visit to Guinea Conakry, 8 March 2016
 
Uyu Billy umenya atazi ibibera mu Rwanda: inzara iravuza ubuhuha hose mu gihugu, abantu barapfa cyangwa bagasuhukira mu bihugu duturanye;
ubucyene buranuma, ari mu giturage, ari mu mijyi aho birukana abacyene na ba mayibobo; indwara zari zaracitse ubu zaragarutse zirushaho ubukana, cyane iziterwa n'imilire mibi n'ubuzima bubi (Shorokori kugeza ku bantu bakuru; kugwingira kw'abana, malaria, amavunja, ...)!
Ubwicanyi no gufungira abantu ubusa, iterabwoba, icyenewabo, irondakoko, kwiharira no kwigwizaho ibyiza by'igihugu, gusesagura no kunyereza umutungo w'igihugu! Ngibyo ibiranga Leta ya FPR n'agatsiko kayo karangajwe imbere na Kagame!
Humuka ureke kuba intore y'impumyi!


Le Jeudi 10 mars 2016 3h26, Billy Thekid <billthekid24@yahoo.com> a écrit :



Tout observateur attentionné et impartial peut clairement voir que cet homme est devenu une icône en Afrique. Sa gestion de l'Etat fait saliver beaucoup d'Africains qui meurent d'envie de voir le modèle rwandais se transposer chez eux. Ce n'est pas moi qui le dit: les médias sociaux, comme dirait notre Semakweli national, sont passés par là. Ceux qui veulent qu'on leur fasse un <dessein>, il vous suffit de le manifester! D'où la cadence des autres chefs d'Etats de l'inviter chez eux ou de se faire inviter chez lui....


Le mercredi 9 mars 2016 8h38, "Ignace imujaribu@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :


 
Kagame à la conquête du leadership du club des dictateurs africains.

Sous haute facilitation de Mr Bernard Kouchner,naturalisé Guinnéen,  conseiller extrapotentiel du président actuel Guinnéen.

Le club des bandits en marche !



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[haguruka.com] TR: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: U Bugesera bawari bwarabaye i kusanyirizo ry’Abatutsi bagomba kwicwa

 

Dushimire Anyesi, Andreya na Bosko bazanye ibi bya Bugesera.

 

Revolution ya 1959-1960 yabyaye ingorane ku batutsi babalirwaga mu gipande cy'abali ku butegetsi. Bamwe mulibo bahungira hanze, aliko biyemeza kugarukana udutero-shuma barwana na ba Kanyarengwe, ibyo byahagaze muli 1968 nkuko Sebatware yabivuze (aliko akosore haliya ha 1953, siyo ni 1963)! Ko ibya Rwanda iteka biba bizilitse, uwo Kanyarengwe na Bizimungu nibo baje babarangaje imbere i Rwanda muli 1994. Abandi  baragoragoje bagumana n'abaturanyi babo mu maprefegitura balimwo. Hali n'ababogamiwe cyane n'abaturanyi babo (bitewe n'ubusambo bw'amasambu cyangwa se ibindi ) kandi bishakira kuguma mu Rwanda: leta-mbiligi hamwe n'abategetsi-nzibacyuho ba Rwanda babonye igisubizo cyo kubimura bakajya kubatuza mu Bugesera.  Iyo Bugesera kimwe na Kibungo ndetse n'Umutara niho hali hadatuwe cyane, haboneka ahantu hali amashyamba atuwe n'ibisimba binyuranye. Abategetsi rero bubakishije amazu aho babaga bamaze gutunganya hilya no hino ku muhanda Kigali-Nyamata-Kirundo, ndetse umengo baraciye n'utundi duhanda duto, niyo batuzagamo abatutsi babaha n'ibibatunga byose, mbere yuko bahinga bakeza bakitunga. Babatuzaga rero aho babaga bamaze kwirukana ibisimba binyuranye, yemwe hali n'ikipe yali ishinzwe kwirukana isazi, uwanyuma wayo tuzi ni bwana van Minnebruggen w'umubiligi, niwe wakoze rapport yanyuma asinya ko isazi irangiye muli  za Bugesera, Kibungo-Rusumo- Nasho. Inyamaswa zindi nazo zalishwe ndetse hali n'izo bagerageje kwimulira muli Parki Akagera banga ko zacika i Rwanda. Bagature rero ba Bugesera na Kibungo  bibonye bagomba kubana n'abandi banyarwanda benshi baturutse imihande yose ya Rwanda, bashotse amasambu mashya yali abonetse (Anyesi yibuke ko nawe ubwe yigeze kubikomozaho avuga ko ali abimukira babazaniye amahano!). Yemwe n'abarundi bali barahungiye i Rwanda batujwe muli utwo turere. Muli 1990 kimwe n'ubu, za miliyoni z'abanyarwanda baliho barabyiganira muli utwo turere (Bugesera, Kibungo, Mutara), ndetse na ya parki Akagera 2/3 by'ubuso byali bisigaye 94 ubu RPF yabitujemo abantu. 


Abo batujwe ndetse n'abizanye gutura Bugesera-Kibungo-Mutara baturutse mu duce twose twa Rwanda. Bugesera rero kuko aliyo yambere yateguwe yaje kubakwamo camp militaire Gako bashaka gukumira burundu abashaka kongera gushora udutero shuma, inahinduka ikigega cy'ibilibya n'amakara byatunze umujyi wa Kigali. 


Ni gute rero prefet wa Kigali muli 1966 yashoboye gusinya ko abatutsi bose ba Rwanda bimurwa bakajyanwa mu Bugesera? Yashoboraga wenda gusinya aha leta isambu (partie ya prefegitura ye) idatuwe ngo bahatuze abandi banyarwanda, aliko ko leta yamuha uburenganzira bwo gusinyira kwimura abatutsi ba Rwanda yose ni icya Semuhanuka! Kandi niyo aba mininter, agasinya ahamagalira abantu (abahutu, abatutsi n'abatwa) badafite amasambu kujya gutura mu Bugesera, Kibungo na Mutara ntabwo yali kuba aciye inka amabere, igihe abashinzwe gusafisha imitulire bamubwiye ko biteguye kwakira abaturage, ahantu hahali kandi bahagize tayali!   


Abaturarwanda b'ubu rero bakunze gushora itiku bitwikiliye amashyano yabuditse ku Rwanda. Ntagitangaje ko bagerageza uko bakorera inkono ishyushye Sebatware, igihe ibya za nka bahimbye ko yaliye (keretse niba ali zimwe zaje kuli rond point kurangiza indagu za Magayane) bibuze amajyo, akaba aniyemeje kujya mu ruhando rw'abandika ibyo babonye/bazi! Yanditse igitabo! Ibi hali abandi benshi byatumye bikorerwa, igihe bidasingiza ingoma. 

Ibinyoma ni bikubitirwe inzega, cyane ko ubu ibintu bimaze gusobanuka, imanza zaraciwe ndetse zimwe zisigaye zitera isoni abazivurugusemwo bose babeshya, zibavugisha amagambure. Ni gushira ibinya rwose abantu bakavuga ukuli bazi gusenya ibyontazi byonona ugusabana n'ubwiyunge by'abanyarwanda, ndetse bagasenya n'ibifitirano ly'itekinika mu bumenyi. Aliko ibya Rwanda birazilitse nyine, amayida ni munange. 

 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2016/03/08/leta-yagatsiko-yikuye-mu-rukiko-rwafrica-ese-impanvu-batanga-zifite-ishingiro   



De : fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> de la part de Jean Bosco Sibomana sibomanaxyz999@gmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda] <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé : mercredi 9 mars 2016 20:34
À : Sibomana Jean Bosco
Objet : [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: U Bugesera bawari bwarabaye i kusanyirizo ry'Abatutsi bagomba kwicwa
 
 

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RUHENGERI, TERRITOIRE  DU RWANDA. JADIS, HIER, AUJOURD'HUI, PAR ANDRÉ SEBATWARE. Ce livre ébauche les événements politiques, ethniques et régionaux qui… - Jean Bosco Sibomana - Google+


Mr Sebatware André, je viens de voir la photo de couverture de votre livre avec le chef Muzungu transporté mu Ngobyi. Une situation qui est d'actualité avec nos président-roi africains qui ont pris la place du Muzungu mu Ngobyi.

Le mercredi 9 mars 2016, Sebatware André abatware@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :
 

Hari ibibazo usanga bigomba igisubizo, hari kandi ibindi usanga bigamije kurangaza abantu ngo batikomereza ibyiza barimo.

Jye igihe nzi nabonye abatutsi bajyanywe mu Bugesera ni kimwe mu mvururu za 59, uko nabibonye naho nari ndi nabisobanuye. Za barrières zabagaho, zatewe nudutero shuma twabiyise inyenzi. Igitero cya simusiga cyageze ku kiraro cya Kanzenze muri 1953, kuva ubwo bahashyize barrière irinzwe n'abapolisi b'igihugu (police nationale), icyo gihe la police kuva J.Habyalimana akiba Ministre yavuye muri Ministère y'Ubutegetsi bw'igihugu ijya muri Ministère y'Ingabo z'igihugu (Ministère de la Garde nationale et de la Police) nabaye Préfet iyo barrière ya Kanzenze kuri Nyabarongo ikiriho, ariko muri 66 inyenzi zarateye mu Bugesera, muri Nshiri zageze muri 68. Ibyiyo barrière no kugingo u Bugesera bwongre kuba nyabagendwa nta nkomyi, nabisobanuye kuburyo burambuye mu gitabo nanditse. 



De : "Jean Bosco Sibomana sibomanaxyz999@gmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
À : Sibomana Jean Bosco <Sibomanaxyz999@gmail.com>
Envoyé le : Mercredi 9 mars 2016 14h13
Objet : *DHR* Re: U Bugesera bawari bwarabaye i kusanyirizo ry'Abatutsi bagomba kwicwa

 
[[[Ngira ngo warabisomye ko muri CNLG bavuga ko "Aya mabwiriza ngo yasinywe mu mwaka wa 1966 ashyirwaho umukono n'uwari perefe icyo gihe witwaga Sebatware André." (mw'Izuba rirashe ry'ejobundi taliki ya 7 Werurwe).]]]

Maintenant qu'on a la version d'André Sebatware, ce journal Izuba Rirashe devrait citer ses sources sous peine de s'exposer à la diffamation. J'ai suivi ce sujet depuis le début et j'attendais impatiemment la version de Sebatware sur cette accusation pointue. Ça me rappelle l'intervention de Serubuga, il est très important que les anciens politiciens donnent leur version des faits sur la 1ère et 2ème république RW, le FPR étant plus motivée à réécrire l'histoire du Rwanda après son invasion depuis l'Ouganda. Tant qu'on y est, n'oublions pas que ces pratiques de zonage ethnique existent sous le FPR surtout dans la capitale Kigali.


Le mercredi 9 mars 2016, Sebatware André abatware@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :
 
Agnesi njya nsoma ibintu wandika biba bifite ifatizo, ubusanzwe, mbere ya REVOLUTION ya 59, ubugesera bwari busanzwe butuwe n'abantu b'amoko agize abanyarwanda, ariko kubera tsetse harihatuwe n'abantu bake.

Chefu w'u Bugesera  kuva mbere ya 59 kugera mu matora ya za komini yari Ruhorahoza Gerard, niba nibuka neza yari umututsi w'umunyiginya kandi aho mbereye Préfet nasanze ari umuntu ubana n'abaturage bose kandi neza. Abatutsi bajyanywe i Bugesera baturutse mu duce tunyuranye tw'u Rwanda; abiwacu babakuye muri Paroisse ya Runaba aho nari maze amezi abiri nigisha nkimara kurangiza ishuri ry'abarimu i Zaza ku wa 30 Kamena 59, njya kwigisha kuwa 1/09/1959. Nabaye Préfet kuwa 1/02/1966. Ntavuze menshi ayo matangazo bamvugaho, ko nari Préfet wa Kigali naje gukora itangazo ku batutsi mbifitiye ubuhe bubasha! Numvise ko Mu Rwanda informatique ari ikigezweho, azahsyire iryo tangazo ku mbuga na signature yanjye.  



De : "agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
À : Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Envoyé le : Mercredi 9 mars 2016 8h39
Objet : Re: *DHR* U Bugesera bwari bwarabaye i kusanyirizo ry'Abatutsi bagomba kwicwa

 

"Abatutsi bimuriwe i Bugesera muri révolution ya 59, babatuje muri Komine ya Kanzenze." (Andereya Sebatware)

Bwana Andereya Sebatware,

Urakoze kudusobanurira igihe abatutsi baturijwe mu Bugesera n'ukuntu Marché commun (yaje guhinduka Union européenne) yahatunganije mu byitwaga Développement du "Bugesera-Mayaga".

Ndabona kandi uvuga ngo "Imibanire ya Andreya Sebatware n'Abatutsi cyane abo mu Bugesera, muzayasanga mu gitabo nanditse guhera ku rupapuro 69 kugera 74. (Bugesera zone rouge et interdite)".

Ese hagati aha kandi mu magambo avunaguye, ntiwatubwira aho abatutsi bajyanywe mu Bugesera baturutse n'impamvu yatumye bimurwa? Ese koko ko ni wowe wasinye amabwiriza yo kubimura? 

Ngira ngo warabisomye ko muri CNLG bavuga ko "Aya mabwiriza ngo yasinywe mu mwaka wa 1966 ashyirwaho umukono n'uwari perefe icyo gihe witwaga Sebatware André." (mw'Izuba rirashe ry'ejobundi taliki ya 7 Werurwe).

Mbaye ngushimiye  ku bisobanuro  byawe byafasha benshi (nanjye ndi mo) kumva uko byagenze kiriya gihe!




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[haguruka.com] TR: *DHR* Paul Kagame State Visit to Guinea Conakry, 8 March 2016

 


Huu! Mbere yo gusimbukira bwana Billy wenda wiboneye umunyarwandakazi utaruhanya nk'abazungukazi, banza umenye neza niba Dr Bernard Kouchner inshuti magara ya HE yarabaye Guineen  na conseiller special wa A. Konde nkuko  imujaribu@yahoo.fr  abivuga,  noneho ubwo uraba ubonye umunwa w'inkoko ntakwirwa wongera kubaza amenyo yayo aho ali! Ibiradiyo byanyu bimwokeje igitutu none Kouchner arahagotse nk'umwe ujugunya utuzi aho inzu cyangwa se ishyamba lishya. 
Esclavage - Colonisation - Cooperation/Assistance - Genocides/Alliances: nguwo umugati mwiza ugabulirwa abanyafurika, yahitwa abawugabuye bakizibukira!



De : Michel Niyibizi <niyimike@yahoo.fr>
Envoyé : jeudi 10 mars 2016 11:49
À : Billy Thekid; Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr; Innocent Twagiramungu; Lyarahoze Samuel; Semakweli; Nzinink; Christophe Tuvugishukuri; MUSABYIMANA JEAN DE DIEU; Zac Biampa; Semahoro; Sibomana Jean Bosco; Sharangabo Rufagari; SHEMA; Olivier Rukundo; Agnesmurebwayire; Anastase Gasana; Chantal Karara; Rudahi20; Shankuru Maurice; Kota Venant; Francois Munyabagisha; Rwagasana Gerard; Joseph Matata; Shingiro Mbonyumutwa; Ndagijimana Jean-Marie; Pierre Nzabagerageza; Samuel Desire; JACQUES KANYAMIBWA
Objet : Re: *DHR* Paul Kagame State Visit to Guinea Conakry, 8 March 2016
 
Uyu Billy umenya atazi ibibera mu Rwanda: inzara iravuza ubuhuha hose mu gihugu, abantu barapfa cyangwa bagasuhukira mu bihugu duturanye;
ubucyene buranuma, ari mu giturage, ari mu mijyi aho birukana abacyene na ba mayibobo; indwara zari zaracitse ubu zaragarutse zirushaho ubukana, cyane iziterwa n'imilire mibi n'ubuzima bubi (Shorokori kugeza ku bantu bakuru; kugwingira kw'abana, malaria, amavunja, ...)!
Ubwicanyi no gufungira abantu ubusa, iterabwoba, icyenewabo, irondakoko, kwiharira no kwigwizaho ibyiza by'igihugu, gusesagura no kunyereza umutungo w'igihugu! Ngibyo ibiranga Leta ya FPR n'agatsiko kayo karangajwe imbere na Kagame!
Humuka ureke kuba intore y'impumyi!


Le Jeudi 10 mars 2016 3h26, Billy Thekid <billthekid24@yahoo.com> a écrit :



Tout observateur attentionné et impartial peut clairement voir que cet homme est devenu une icône en Afrique. Sa gestion de l'Etat fait saliver beaucoup d'Africains qui meurent d'envie de voir le modèle rwandais se transposer chez eux. Ce n'est pas moi qui le dit: les médias sociaux, comme dirait notre Semakweli national, sont passés par là. Ceux qui veulent qu'on leur fasse un <dessein>, il vous suffit de le manifester! D'où la cadence des autres chefs d'Etats de l'inviter chez eux ou de se faire inviter chez lui....


Le mercredi 9 mars 2016 8h38, "Ignace imujaribu@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :


 
Kagame à la conquête du leadership du club des dictateurs africains.

Sous haute facilitation de Mr Bernard Kouchner,naturalisé Guinnéen,  conseiller extrapotentiel du président actuel Guinnéen.

Le club des bandits en marche !



Le 9 mars 2016 à 14:05, Agnès Murebwayire agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :





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"Ce dont j’ai le plus peur, c’est des gens qui croient que, du jour au lendemain, on peut prendre une société, lui tordre le cou et en faire une autre."

“The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

“The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.”

“I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile."

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