Amoko yaba ay'inyitwa inyabutatu kyangwa aya ya wa mwanda w'i Rwanda wandara ugasakara mu karere hirya hino, ni igyitotsi mu mata ndetse ni n'igyitytsi m'ubwengye bwa muntu.
« Rwanda ruzaba nka État Fédéral», Mugema.
Ni byo. Urwanda rundi rushya rutali ruliya rusanzwe rwa Gasabo rwaguye inkyikye kugyeza ku nkombe z'amazi n'imhinga z'ibirunga.
U Rwanda ruvuga ikyinyarwanda n'indimi z'amahanga, ikyiswahili, igyifaransa, ikyongyereza, ikyigande, ilingara, etc. Ni intara nini i Rwanda h'ejo heza hazaza.
«Umuhutu n'umututsi baturanye mukarere kamwe usanga ari inshuti n'iyo badahuje amateka y'ibitekerezo». Uravuga neza n-kubahwa Mugema, gusa komeza utahina ingyingo. Amahoro ku gyiti ky'umuntu n'umubano mu bantu (cfr Nkurunziza) ni byo ngyenzi. Abantu baba inshuti, bagakundana bagashakana, kubera gusa ko bahuje imhumeko. Guhumeka nyamuneka! Ibindi nk'amoko ni kyo kyimwe n'amateka, ni ubuvunderi nk'ubundi bwose abannywi b'itabi bisiga ngo inzukyi zitabarya zibarekye bazukye imyotsi bazisahure ubukyi.
«... bageze kuntambwe y'uko umututsi azumva akababaro k'iyicirwa rye nkuko umuhutu yemera ko abatututsi bishwe, ibyo bintu nibigerwaho abahutu n'abatutsi bazubaka ubumwe bukomeye»
Défi ni ukumvikanisha umuvuno w'ubwiyungye nyakuli, kubaka inyumba y'ukuli, gushyira imbere imibereho myiza ya buli muntu. Ibi bizagyerwaho nitumara guca umuco wo gufunga abantu bazira akamama n'amaherere, umuco wo gukomera amashyi intwali zacu zimena amaraso y'abo tutazi kyangwa tutaruzi. Biradusaba kwicara hamwe tugavanga imyuka duhumeka, tukumvana umunuko maze tugafashanya kwiyoza nta kwiyogyeza. Umunsi ubwiyungye bushamitse k'ukuli n'urumuli twabugyezeho, na ya ntara isaga imipaka izava mu nzozi amahoro akwire asagambe igyice kyinini kya Afurika. Na none mbigarukyeho, ABANYABWENGYE NI BO BIRENGYE BY'ABANYAMIRENGYE.
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From: memajp2000@yahoo.fr
Subject: Abega/Abanyiginya:Re: Débat kuri théorie ya Hamites-Bantu
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:09:51 +0100
To: fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com
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« Rwanda ruzaba nka État Fédéral», Mugema.
Ni byo. Urwanda rundi rushya rutali ruliya rusanzwe rwa Gasabo rwaguye inkyikye kugyeza ku nkombe z'amazi n'imhinga z'ibirunga.
U Rwanda ruvuga ikyinyarwanda n'indimi z'amahanga, ikyiswahili, igyifaransa, ikyongyereza, ikyigande, ilingara, etc. Ni intara nini i Rwanda h'ejo heza hazaza.
«Umuhutu n'umututsi baturanye mukarere kamwe usanga ari inshuti n'iyo badahuje amateka y'ibitekerezo». Uravuga neza n-kubahwa Mugema, gusa komeza utahina ingyingo. Amahoro ku gyiti ky'umuntu n'umubano mu bantu (cfr Nkurunziza) ni byo ngyenzi. Abantu baba inshuti, bagakundana bagashakana, kubera gusa ko bahuje imhumeko. Guhumeka nyamuneka! Ibindi nk'amoko ni kyo kyimwe n'amateka, ni ubuvunderi nk'ubundi bwose abannywi b'itabi bisiga ngo inzukyi zitabarya zibarekye bazukye imyotsi bazisahure ubukyi.
«... bageze kuntambwe y'uko umututsi azumva akababaro k'iyicirwa rye nkuko umuhutu yemera ko abatututsi bishwe, ibyo bintu nibigerwaho abahutu n'abatutsi bazubaka ubumwe bukomeye»
Défi ni ukumvikanisha umuvuno w'ubwiyungye nyakuli, kubaka inyumba y'ukuli, gushyira imbere imibereho myiza ya buli muntu. Ibi bizagyerwaho nitumara guca umuco wo gufunga abantu bazira akamama n'amaherere, umuco wo gukomera amashyi intwali zacu zimena amaraso y'abo tutazi kyangwa tutaruzi. Biradusaba kwicara hamwe tugavanga imyuka duhumeka, tukumvana umunuko maze tugafashanya kwiyoza nta kwiyogyeza. Umunsi ubwiyungye bushamitse k'ukuli n'urumuli twabugyezeho, na ya ntara isaga imipaka izava mu nzozi amahoro akwire asagambe igyice kyinini kya Afurika. Na none mbigarukyeho, ABANYABWENGYE NI BO BIRENGYE BY'ABANYAMIRENGYE.
Mugire Imhagalikye n'Ubugingo (Ayez la droiture et une saine santé) !
Francois M. (1-819-461-0353)
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Il y a dans tout comportement d'autrui notre part d'influence par nos actions, nos omissions, nos attitudes ou nos pensées. C'est ensemble que chacun peut s'élever et contribuer à l'amélioration de la vie autour de soi.
«Ne tuez pas Gitera, tuez Ikibimutera (la cause)», sé Rudahigwa, roi du Rwanda, 1957.
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From: memajp2000@yahoo.fr
Subject: Abega/Abanyiginya:Re: Débat kuri théorie ya Hamites-Bantu
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:09:51 +0100
To: fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com
Bwana Munyabagisha
Ngahushimiye kuri réaction ugize.
Biriya bya Hamite na Bantu ntacyo bifashaho ba Kagame Paul nta n'uwo bifasha mubanyarwanda kuko ntacyo bihuza nacyo mukarere.
Icyo bimaze ni ukurushaho gushwanyaguza abanyarwanda b'impande zose badafite ubushobozi n'igihe byo kureba kure.
Ahubwo cy'ukuri kiza kugenga u Rwanda mubihe bizaza nuko u Rwanda ruzaba nka État Fédéral. Ibyo kandi birasanzwe muri politiki by'afrika. Umuturanyi aza mbere y'ibindi byose. Usanga umuhutu uturanye n'umututsi bafitanye ubumwe bukomeye kurenza abavuga ko bahuje ubwoko.
Ibyo kandi bitangiye kugaragara no muri ibi bihe u Rwanda rugezemo. Umuhutu n'umututsi baturanye mukarere kamwe usanga ari inshuti n'iyo badahuje amateka y'ibitekerezo.
Abanyarwanda nibaramuka bageze kuntambwe y'uko umututsi azumva akababaro k'iyicirwa rye nkuko umuhutu yemera ko abatututsi bishwe, ibyo bintu nibigerwaho abahutu n'abatutsi bazubaka ubumwe bukomeye butigeze bubaho muri Afrika kuburyo ndetse ntawe utuye akarere uzapima nabo.
Nka buriya East Afrika izagirira akamaro abanyarwanda kurusha abandi abahutu n'abatutsi nibaramuka bubatse ubwo bumwe.
Abega n'abanyiginya (ba Kagame na ba Kayumba) bataravangura, ubwo bumwe bw'abahutu n'abatutsi bwaracumbagiraga. Kuri ubu Abega bamenye ko ubutegetsi ari ubwabo n'abanyiginya nabo bemera ko ari abavumbyi mu ngoma y'abega kuburyo ibintu birimo birahinduka vuba cyane.
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«Ibya Hamites na Bantu ni théories zikiri muri laboratoires z'amahanga zikaba zitangiye gushyirwa mu igeragezwa rya communication mubitabo n'ibindi kugirango hageragezwe kureba niba iyo théorie yafata noneho bagacamo Afrika kabiri. » Mugema.
Ubivuze neza mu ntangiriro. Amahanga uyasimbuje abahanga bo kwanganishanya noo guhangana byarushaho kumvikana. Abo mvuga ni benebyo ali nabo bene guteza ubwega.«Abashimangira ibya Hamites contre Bantu baratiza umurindi ba Kagame kuko babatubura bakabagira banini»
Nibasibe gutiza umulindi ba Kagame, iyi argument nayo irahengamye. Uwakumva gusa ukuli kwa bene biliya bihuha, atitaye ku nyungu bifitiye runaka na runaka.
Ndisobanura: hali igyihe abantu bazashyira imbere amafuti ngo ni uko abafasha gupfobereza Kagame umubyimba.Mugire Imhagalikye n'Ubugingo (Ayez la droiture et une saine santé) !Francois M. (1-819-461-0353)-----------------------------Il y a dans tout comportement d'autrui notre part d'influence par nos actions, nos omissions, nos attitudes ou nos pensées. C'est ensemble que chacun peut s'élever et contribuer à l'amélioration de la vie autour de soi.«Ne tuez pas Gitera, tuez Ikibimutera (la cause)», sé Rudahigwa, roi du Rwanda, 1957.
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From: memajp2000@yahoo.fr
Subject: Débat kuri théorie ya Hamites-Bantu :
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:42:27 +0100
To: fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.frBwana Bangamwabo Martin,Ubanza utumvise neza. Abavuga ko hariho ikibazo cya Hamites contre Bantu mukarere ntabwo ariko biboneka mukibuga cya politiki yo mukarere mubihe bishize. Byaravuzwe murwego rwo gutangatanga no kurwanya Fpr yateye yitwa iy'abatutsi ariko ibyo bintu ntibyigeze bifata ngo bigaragare ko ariko biteye mukarere.Uti gute ? Ese wigeze wumva ishyirahamwe ry'abo bita Bantou ou Bantu contre Hamites mukarere ? Iyo wegereye umunyekongo cyangwa umurundi n'umutanzaniya wumva hari akantu k'irangamuntu baziko bahuriyeho kuburyo ako kantu kabafasha kurwana intambara bitwa ko ari abavandimwe Bantu ? Ntabwo uziko Fdrl ya kera yigeze kujya hamwe na Cndd bakarasana bakamarana Nkurunziza atarafata ubutegetsi!!! Isano ya Bantu ko itabafashije gushyira hamwe nk'abandimwe ?Kubireba les Hamites ko Museveni na Kagame batigeze bashyigikira abatutsi b' I Burundi ngo bagume kubutegetsi mukarere ? Ubwo se ubumwe bwa Hamite mukarere ni ubuhe ? Ntabwo Rutayisire Boniface yigeze kubatangariza inyandiko mubihe bishize ibereka ko abatutsi b'i Burundi bigeze kujya gutakambira Kagame ngo abatabare akabatera utwatsi ! Ubwo se ubumwe buvugwa hagati ya Hima ni ubuhe? Iyo iyo umututsi ahuye n'undi bumva ari abahima kuburyo iyo Sano yabo (ntakindi wongeyeho) ari ubumwe bwabafasha kurwana intambara ?Bwana Bangamwabo, nimuve mumarangamutima yubatswe n'abanyamahanga batazi ibibazo by'akarere.Ikiriho ni nka biriya bya Kagame ageze aho akenera abatutsi b' i Burundi kandi ejo hashize yarabateye utwatsi kuko icyo gihe yari yihagije. Icyabayeho mbere nuko Museveni yigeze gukebera abatutsi b´' Rwanda akabifashisha akagera kubutegetsi nabo nyuma bakaza kumwifashisha bakabugeraho.Niba iyo migirire ariyo bashaka gushyira muri théorie ya Hamites-Bantu, ababivuga baravangavanga.Kugeza ubu muburyo bw'imibereho na politiki ntabaturage b'ibihugu binyuranye bari biyumvamo ko bahujwe no kuba bitwa ba Bantu cyangwa ba Hamites. Ufite aho abizi ahavuge.Ibya Hamites na Bantu ni théories zikiri muri laboratoires z'amahanga zikaba zitangiye gushyirwa mu igeragezwa rya communication mubitabo n'ibindi kugirango hageragezwe kureba niba iyo théorie yafata noneho bagacamo Afrika kabiri. Uko bamwe burukana abandi muri Afrika ninako abandi bashaka théories zatuma babona uko bahashinga akaguru bacagagura abanyafurika mo ibice.Abashimangira ibya Hamites contre Bantu baratiza umurindi ba Kagame kuko babatubura bakabagira banini bahagararariye Hamites kandi aribo bireba kugiti cyabo ahubwo bagakoresha uko bashoboye ngo bagumeho.Na ba Kagame nabo iyo théorie ntacyo ibafashaho kuko bituma ibyabo byose bishongera muri urwo rwokotsi rw'urujijo n'icyuka rutabaho kuburyo bazasigara amara masa mumateka ntashingiro.Muri make Hamite na Bantu ni théorie itagize uwo ifitiye akamaro kuri ubu n'ejo kuko byose biterwa n'umutegetsi uriho mugihugu runanaka hamwe n'abamushyigikiye. Kujya muri ibyo ni ugutatanya imbaraga ujya kubaka ibidafite ishingiro ryo gufata kuko isi irimo irahindura isura kandi ibihugu byose byitaye kuri Afrika. Ufite uko abibona natubwire.Mugema---------------------------
Le 10 nov. 2015 à 10:28, "Martin Bangamwabo mbangamwabo@yahoo.fr [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :Mr Ibukabose,iri kosa mukoze vous etes loin d'en saisir la portée."Ibya Hima - Bantu ni ibintu bitamaze igihe kirekire mwa Kagame kuko mubihe bishize ..." ( Ibukabose)Mr Ibukabose,
ibi mwemeje c'est juste votre conviction. C'est tout.
Vous imaginez, pour un sujet aussi important, qui concerne plusieurs millions de personnes et plusieurs pays, qui a déjà emporté millioni zigeze ku munani z'abantu,
mukagira une conviction pareil en moins de 5 minutes ( peut-être même pas).
Iki gitekerezo, cya Hima-bantu nacyumvise bwa mbere mu myaka ya 89 i Kigali, kandi sinkora porotiki.
Kiza kujya ahagaragara cyane mu gitabo cy'umugabo uba mu bubiligi witwa Noheli. Sinagisomye ariko il semblerait que yanditsemo ibintu yerekana na za sources de ses dires.
None mwebwe Ibuka bose, muje muvuga ngo si byo nta na sources na ntoya de vos affirmations!!
Et pourtant vous avez la réputation d'être l'un des meilleurs d'entre nous.
Turajyaha??
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