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[haguruka] RE: Re : Re : *DHR* Olivier NDUHUNGIREHE ngo umugambi wa génocide wakozwe nyuma yuko indege bayirasa [1 pièce jointe]

 

Bavandimwe mwese mufite points, aliko mutwemerere tugire ako twongerera F. Munyabagisha haliya asobanura "Umuntu wize". 

Iyo usuzumye abanyarwanda, usanga koko kwiga amashuli, yemwe ukagera no kuli za PhD, akenshi bitandukanye cyane no kugira urumuli, rumwe rugizwe n'ubupfura, kwanga umugayo, no  kwilinda ikinyoma. Umunyarumuli nyawe akorera Rubanda nka wa mugabo nyawe w'urugo wemera agasonza cyangwa se akababazwa arwana ngo urugo rwe rulye kandi rubeho neza. Ntalya 7/8 by'inkoko asigiye gusa 1/8 umugore n'abana bane nka kumwe tubona abihemba 

amamiliyoni, nyamara  abalimu b'incuke bashashurwa gusa uduhumbi tutarenze 50. Ntagereka urusyo kuli Rubabanda  akoresha ubumenyi yize mu mashuli, alibyo kubura ubupfura.

Rero, ali abahutu, ali abatutsi, ali n'abatwa bayobotse amashuli kuva 1935 kugeza magingo aya, umuntu abona abenshi babikoresha mu bulyo bwo kwibonera amahaho menshi, badashishikajwe nabusa no kubikoresha mu kuba urumuli rwa Rubanda. Tubona bakoresha ibyo bize mu kubeshya no gucanga rubanda; tukababona baculika principes bize ngo bashobore guhenda rubanda. Iyo bandaye ngo barayegeye, baba baje kuyilimanganya, bayambura ibyo bakeneye ngo binezeze.  

Mbena aba bize baragatsindwa, igihugu gihirwa ni ikigira bake. Izi ngero eshatu zirabereka ukuntu bakurulira rubanda, bishakira ibilyo: 

Group ya Rakia Omaar na African rights ye; 

Ibinyoma bya Dr J.D muli CNLG n'ibiseke; 

Abafurebye baculika ibyo mu ntambara ya Rwanda 1990-2000. 

Ibi byose byaroshye Urwanda mu kaga gakomeye, kalimbuye/kazalimbura umuhutu, umututsi, umutwa nkuko tuzabilira ubuziraherezo. 

Ubu ibya Rwanda ntawukimenya uko yabifata, byabaye igisupu, aho ntawukimenya umubi n'umwiza (Karegeya, Rwigema Gisa, Habyarimana, Gatabazi, etc. bose balyamye hamwe), kandi abo bize babilira byinshi ngo barashaka ibisobanuro n'ibisubizo. Ni aha Mmana kuzabona abanyarumuli bazadukemulira amage twaroshywemwo, maze tugatangira koko gukora bimwe ngo byo kubaka Urwanda, nta kwaya nka bimwe bya ba Rujugiro, Rwigara cyangwa se nk'ibi tubona aho uwatutse cyane abafransa, aliwe useruka akabashishira ashaka OIF ifite akagati gatubutse.

Uwibutse uburanga bwa Dr A. Kagame na Landourd, yemera koko ko inda ibyara mweru na mukara!  


De : Lyarahoze Samuel <lyar66@yahoo.fr>
Envoyé : dimanche 16 septembre 2018 16:15
À : democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr; Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU Innocent_twagiramungu@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]; Darius Murinzi; Paulrusesabagina; Joseph Matata; Ndagijimana Jean-Marie; Christophe Tuvugishukuri; Michel Niyibizi; Innocent Twagiramungu; Faustin Twagiramungu; Kanyamibwa Pilote; RNC Itahuka; Jambo Asbl; Joseph Sebarenzi; Ijwi Ryarubanda; Zac Biampa; Ngombwa; Rutihunzatheo; Kota Venant; Nkiko. Nsengimana; Mbonigaba Ismaïl; Veritasinfo Ngoga; Marie Kampororo; UDAHEMUKA Eric; Jmarie Micombero; Pierre Foucher; Bona Sin; SHEMA; Perpétue Muramutse; Hakiza Canada; Inumanews; Intabaza Info; Pascal Kalinganire; Bihibindi .; Ruhorahoza Theophile; Yonkad; Olivier Rukundo; Kalebucyusa01; Etienne Karekezi; Abdallah. Akishuli; Lafiancee Armee; Maurice Niwese; Samcyprien; Abel Bangamurabo; Imanzi Pdp; Kagomashenge; Chkayihura; Gahima; Jean Paul Turayishimye; Pierre Nzabagerageza; Iyamuremye David; Emasozera; Jean-Marie Higiro; ally.yusuf.mugenzi@bbc.co.uk; Joseph Ngarambe; Tharcisse Semana; Em. Hame; Mbonigaba; Francois Munyabagisha
Objet : Re: Re : Re : *DHR* Olivier NDUHUNGIREHE ngo umugambi wa génocide wakozwe nyuma yuko indege bayirasa [1 pièce jointe]
 
Le dimanche 16 septembre 2018 à 06:29:36 UTC+2, Francois Munyabagisha <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> a écrit :


Banyarubuga, munyihanganire gato, tutokore amata.

"...uri umuntu wize", LS

Twige kuvangura kwiga ibyigwa, n'urumuli. Kwiga bimaze imi? Uwavuga ko amahano y"o rwanda ashumitse ku mikandara y"abitwa ko bize, macye cg menshi, yaba ai m.ukuli. kwiga lero si ibyo kugenderaho, cg kwitwaza no kwitegereza.


Uwasimbuza kwiga, gutozwa ubupfura n'imhagarike, gutecyereza no 


Best regards  /  Tout.pour le meilleur / Imhagarike!


Francois M-gisha

www.munyabagisha.net

1(819)461-0353


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------ Message d'origine------

De: Lyarahoze Samuel

Date: sam., 15 sept. 2018 7:47 AM

À: democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr;Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU Innocent_twagiramungu@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights];Darius Murinzi;Paulrusesabagina;Joseph Matata;Ndagijimana Jean-Marie;Christophe Tuvugishukuri;Michel Niyibizi;Innocent Twagiramungu;Faustin Twagiramungu;Kanyamibwa Pilote;RNC Itahuka;Jambo Asbl;Joseph Sebarenzi;Ijwi Ryarubanda;Zac Biampa;Ngombwa;Rutihunzatheo;Kota Venant;Nkiko. Nsengimana;Mbonigaba Ismaïl;Veritasinfo Ngoga;Marie Kampororo;UDAHEMUKA Eric;Jmarie Micombero;Pierre Foucher;Bona Sin;SHEMA;Perpétue Muramutse;Hakiza Canada;Inumanews;Intabaza Info;Pascal Kalinganire;Bihibindi .;Ruhorahoza Theophile;Yonkad;Olivier Rukundo;Kalebucyusa01;Etienne Karekezi;Abdallah. Akishuli;Lafiancee Armee;Maurice Niwese;Samcyprien;Abel Bangamurabo;Imanzi Pdp;Kagomashenge;Chkayihura;Gahima;Jean Paul Turayishimye;Pierre Nzabagerageza;Iyamuremye David;Emasozera;Jean-Marie Higiro;ally.yusuf.mugenzi@bbc.co.uk;Joseph Ngarambe;Tharcisse Semana;Em. Hame;Mbonigaba;Francois Munyabagisha;

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Objet:Re: Re : *DHR* Olivier NDUHUNGIREHE ngo umugambi wa génocide wakozwe nyuma yuko indege bayirasa [1 pièce jointe]


Bwana Munyabagisha,

Njya numva bavuga ko uri umuntu wize...
Ni yo mpamvu ngusaba kujya ubanza gusoma ukumva neza mbere yo gusubiza/kunenga.

Reba "à la fin" y'inyandiko yanjye urahabona uko nsobaura, linki mu gifaransa , uwateguye jenoside n'uburyo yayiteguyemo.

Imana ikongerere urumuri.

Le samedi 15 septembre 2018 à 13:34:31 UTC+2, Francois Munyabagisha <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> a écrit :


N-kuramba Samuel

Ulimo urayobya uburali, kimwe na mugenzi wawe Nduhungirehe O, nyamara imbwa zashize kera! 

1. 1. Kimwe cyo mu gihuru cy'uruziramire nta "gouvernement", nta "leta" uko bizwi zizwi zibayo. Haba uruziramire gusa n'abamotsi barwo.

1.2. Kuba ON ali ministre ntibimuha kuvugira Igihuru. 


2. Ikibazo cya planification ya genocide cyasobanuwe bihagije na tpir. 

2.1. M'uguhengama kwayo, yagaragaje bidasubirwaho ko itateguwe n'abitwa abahutu bo k'uruhande rwa Habyarimana. 

2.2. Bivuga ko hali abandi bayiteguye. Baba se abandi batali inkotanyi?

2.3. Tumaze iminsi n.imyaka tugaragaza uburyo genocide yateguwe n'inkotanyi. None uti reka dusaragurikire ku ndege! Oya si byo.


3. Indege iba imbarutso aliko si yo mhamvu. 3.1. Genocide yatangiye mbere na mbariro, indege itaragwa. Genocides zirabandanya,; indege se iracyagwa? 

3.2. Imhamvu iba iyihe? Iyo....

Iyo Arusha na bya bipapuro ngo ni accords bitabaho,... 

Iyo Leta igira urumuli ruhagije ntabwo iba yaragiye Arusha.....

Iyo hataba intambara kuva muli 90 ....

Iyo Habyarimana adatsembatsemba, atica abaparimehutu, ...

Iyo Kayibanda atagwa mu umutego w'abarunari, ba Benzinge, muli 64...

Iyo inyenzi zidatera zibaga abantu, zibiba ubwoba ....

Iyo Revolution itegurwa neza kandi ikagaburirwa urumuli ruhagije, bitali biliya by'urwiswe urwa demikarasi,...


Iyo... ni nyinshi. Umwanzuro ni umwe: inkotanyi ntizali gupanga genocides. 


4-5: byasobanuwe kuli 1-2-3


6. Abarezwe planification ngira ngo Arusha bahanaguweho icyo cyaha. Nta n'umwe cyahamye. 

6.1. Kuba umuntu atarateguye genocide si byo byamugira umwere! Abamotsi n'abahetsi b'uruziramire Fpr si abere, nyamara benshi binjiye igihuru ejobundi.


6.2. Kutaba abere, ntibivuga ko bahamwa n'icyaha cya genocide. Abafungiwe arusha nta n'umwe waba umwere umwere 100%. Kuba wali ministre, umukuru w'ishyaka cyangwa w'ingabo, waregwa rwose ubugwali ukagomba kwisobanura. Aha byali ngombwa ko humvikana, responsabilité politique na responsabilité genocidaire zigatandukanywa. Aliko si ko byagenze, abafunze benshi barezwe ibyaha batakoze, akenshi byakozwe na fpr inkotanyi/interahamwe. 


6.3. Guhabira kugira abere bamwe no guta mu kagozi abandi, ni indwara mbi itera guhuma nk'impyisi no guhumana. Ngo ni indege yabiteye! Biteye isoni. 


7-8: no comment


9: hakorwe iki? 

9.1. Urumuli rulimo gusatira igihuru, uruziramire rwayobewe aho ruruhungira! 

9.2. Nduhungirehe aratera imigeri nk'uceza kamucerenge, ngo ayobye abantu bareke kumulika planification uko yakozwe na bamwe mu nkotanyi za fpr  kandi igahama Kagame ku isonga rya bacye muli bo bakiliho.

9.3. Ibi bye ni ugutesha igihe abatekereza. Kuko biba ngombwa kumumulika ngo hatagira abamwoma inyuma nk'abiruka mu kabwibwi k'ifumba ry'umucuraguzi.

Bon w-e,  


Best regards  /  Tout.pour le meilleur / Imhagarike!


Francois M-gisha

www.munyabagisha.net

1(819)461-0353


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------ Message d'origine------

De: Lyarahoze Samuel

Date: ven., 14 sept. 2018 4:56 PM

À: democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr;Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU Innocent_twagiramungu@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights];Darius Murinzi;Francois Munyabagisha;Paulrusesabagina;Joseph Matata;Ndagijimana Jean-Marie;Christophe Tuvugishukuri;Michel Niyibizi;Innocent Twagiramungu;Faustin Twagiramungu;Kanyamibwa Pilote;RNC Itahuka;Jambo Asbl;Joseph Sebarenzi;Ijwi Ryarubanda;Zac Biampa;Ngombwa;Rutihunzatheo;Kota Venant;Nkiko. Nsengimana;Mbonigaba Ismaïl;Veritasinfo Ngoga;Marie Kampororo;UDAHEMUKA Eric;Jmarie Micombero;Pierre Foucher;Bona Sin;SHEMA;Perpétue Muramutse;Hakiza Canada;Inumanews;Intabaza Info;Pascal Kalinganire;Bihibindi .;Ruhorahoza Theophile;Yonkad;Olivier Rukundo;Kalebucyusa01;Etienne Karekezi;Abdallah. Akishuli;Lafiancee Armee;Maurice Niwese;Samcyprien;Abel Bangamurabo;Imanzi Pdp;Kagomashenge;Chkayihura;Gahima;Jean Paul Turayishimye;Pierre Nzabagerageza;Iyamuremye David;Emasozera;Jean-Marie Higiro;ally.yusuf.mugenzi@bbc.co.uk;Joseph Ngarambe;Tharcisse Semana;Em. Hame;Mbonigaba;

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Objet:Re: *DHR* Olivier NDUHUNGIREHE ngo umugambi wa génocide wakozwe nyuma yuko indege bayirasa [1 pièce jointe]


Mukomere mwese!

Ibyo Minisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga w'u Rwanda Olivier Nduhungirihe yavuze, biri kuri linki Maitre Innocent yohereje, bifite akamaro gakomeye cyane mu mateka y'u Rwanda na Jenoside yarubayemo:

1. Olivier Nduhungirehe yabivuze mu izina rya Guverinoma abereye Minisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga: ni ukuvuga ko ariko kuri kwa guverinoma arimo iyobowe na Paul Kagame;

2. Nk'uko abyivigira, umugambi wa jenoside (niba warabayeho koko, wacuzwe nyuma y'ihanurwa ry'indege ya Habyarimana;

3. Bisobanura ko iyo iriya ndege idahanurwa nta jenoside yarikubaho;

4. Bivuga kandiko ikirego cyatanzwe kuri guverinoma ya Habyarimana, ku "akazu" na RTLM  na banyirako ntashingiro gifite;

5. Bisobanura ku buryo budasubirwaho ko LONI yibeshye cyane ivuga ko jenoside yabayeho guhera tariki ya 01/01/1994 na FPR yashyize itangiriro ryayo tariki ya 01/10/1990.

6. Abarezwe ibyaha byakozwe mbere y'ihanurwa ry'indege bagombye guhita bagirwa abere;

7. Ni ngomwa kwibuka ko na G. Hahima  wabaye Procureur gnl na we ari byo yemeje (nubwo we yari mu buhungiro)

8. Bernard Lugan, Serges Dupuis, mu bushakashatsi bwabo, na bo ni byo beza. Byaba byiza musomye uko nabavuguruje, ngaragaza ko Jenoside yatangiye tariki 07/04/1994 itatateguwe na Kambanda-Sindikubwabo batangiye akazi kabo tariki ya 09/04/1994. Ntibishoboka. Ibaze nawe: DUPUIS SE TROMPE FORT: LE GENOCIDE DES TUTSIS ETAIT BEL ET BIEN PLANIFIÉ AVANT CETTE DATE FATALE. | LeRwandais




9. (...)

Twakora iki kuri iyi "déclaration" ya Minisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga wa Repubulika y'u Rwanda?

Ni ngombwa ko iyi "déclaration"  yasuzumanwa ubwitonzi n'bagize opozisiyo bose, bakayifaho umwanzuro ugomba kugezwa muri "Conseil de Sécurité de l'ONU" yashyizeho urukiko rwa TPIR. 

Mbese hari abanyamategeko babidufashamo??

Mbaye mbashimiye.

Le vendredi 14 septembre 2018 à 19:54:45 UTC+2, Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU Innocent_twagiramungu@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :


 
[Pièces jointes envoyées par Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU incluses ci-dessous]

Olivier NDUHUNGIREHE arimo kwivugira ko umugambi wo gukora jenoside ngo bawukoze nyuma yuko indege bayirasa.

Iyi Leta ndabona ikomeje ihuzagurika kuri iki kibazo TPIR yashubije ivuga ko nta planification yabashije kubonera ibimenyetso.

Ibi kandi bihabanye na position ya FPR yo guhakana ko ihanurwa ry'indege ryabaye imbarutso ( élément déclencheur.

Haracyari byinshi byo gutohoza.

Murabitekerezaho iki?

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