[RwandaLibre] Re: FW: [fondationbanyarwanda] Sites memoriaux ku Gikongoro ngo zaba zirimo abatutsi bakabakaba kuli 200.000!

 

Venant,

Ugize uti "uretse ko tutashoboye kubihuza na lya tora ly'ibara ly'umukara lyabo, ngo byaba byarasobanuraga gutora Kanyarengwe. Nyabuna wowe na bwana Ndolimana mutubabalire maze mwigore  mutubwire ibyabyo, kuko ntitwunva ukuntu mwaba mwarakunze uwashakaga gutera iwanyu ishyamba! "

Si impuha kandi ndabyibuka nk'aho byaba ari ejo, abanyagikngoro b'abahutu bose bose  batoye umukara ngo batora Kanyarengwe, abatutsi nabo batora icyatsi ngo batora Habyalimana, ibarura rirangiye Habyalimana yiyambaje les camarades du 5 juillet maze hoherezwa Simba Aloys "gutekinika" amaji, nuko aho gutangaza amajwi nyakuri y'umukara ngo yari  80% n'ayicyatsi ngo yari 20%, batangaza ko icyatsi cyabonye 59% ngo andi majwi yose yitwa impfabusa, ngayo ng'uko,  icyo gihe amajwi officiels nubwo yari yabaye "techniqués", nabwo yabaye make muri Gikongoro maze iba iyanyuma avec 59% ku rutonde rw'izindi perefegitura dore ko inyinshi zari zifite amajwi ari hejuru ya 90%.

Amatora yabaye mu myaka yakurikiyeho bazanaga ibara ry'ikijuju n'iry'icyasi, ibara ry'umukara ryasezerewe kuva umunsi abanyagikongoro barihundagazaho amajwi.Ngayo ng'uko...

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De : Semahoro <byilin@yahoo.com>
À : "kota venant kotakori@hotmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>; "radioitahuka@gmail.com" <radioitahuka@gmail.com>; "rudahi20@hotmail.com" <rudahi20@hotmail.com>; "tatien2miheto@yahoo.fr" <tatien2miheto@yahoo.fr>; "infotubeho@yahoo.fr" <infotubeho@yahoo.fr>; "fra.munya@wanadoo.fr" <fra.munya@wanadoo.fr>; "joy.imanzi@yahoo.fr" <joy.imanzi@yahoo.fr>; "skweli@yahoo.fr" <skweli@yahoo.fr>; "rwandalibre@yahoogroups.com" <rwandalibre@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Mercredi 22 octobre 2014 17h13
Objet : Re: FW: [fondationbanyarwanda] Sites memoriaux ku Gikongoro ngo zaba zirimo abatutsi bakabakaba kuli 200.000!

Muvandimwe Venant,
Inda ibyara Mweru na Muhima, kandi akamasa kazakenya inka kazivukamo.
Ibya Kanyarengwe ni amayobera, mbere yo kuyobora Inkotanyi, niwe wabaye intwari mukurwanya INYENZI. Kubera ibyo, abanya Gikongoro ntibari kumwibagirwa, doreko batari bazi uruhare rwa Habyarimana muri urwo rugamba. Bamenye gusa urwo yagize muguhangana n'Inkotanyi. Gutora rero Kanyarengwe kirya gihe, n'ubwo ntari mu Rwanda, sinabyanze, cyane cyane ko biriya byo gutera ishyamba ku Gikongoro bitari byarashyizwe ahagaragara, kuko bigomba kuba byaravuzwe nkuko Mulindahabi yavuzeko imbwa zagaburiwe byinshi zitarinda urugo, yangako bongera buget ya Defense. Nguwo uwakuruye urwango hagati ya Kiga na Nduga.
Akamasa rero si Kanyarengwe gusa, ahubwo Lizinde arabimurusha, kuko ariwe stratege wize aho bazarasira Kinani cyari cyarananiye abagome n'abagambanyi. Ntawivuga akiri kw'isi, kuko bucyana ayandi na nyina w'undi akabyara undi wundi.
Ntuzongere kumfatanya na Ndolimana usenga ibigirwamana, jye nemera Iyo mw'Ijuru, ndi umusinga musangwa-butaka kandi Semahoro.

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"kota venant kotakori@hotmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

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>Uti "....keretse babariyeho n'abaguye i Kibeho, kuko ngo Kanyarengwe bose yabitaga abatutsi, akumva we ahubwo yahatera ishyamba, akaagura Nyungwe! Ce fut un vrai genocidaire, lui aussi...". 
>Aho ntiwaba wibagiwe ko aliwe wali chairman wa RPF Inkotanyi waziyoboye akazicaza ku ngoma i Kigali? None waba ubivuze invaho, akaba wenda yaligishije inkotanyi yali ayoboye ko bulya mu Rwanda Nduga yose ali abatutsi, akaba alicyo gituma ba Dr A. Gasana, Prof Guichaoua (Soma Butare prefecture rebelle) n'abandi bavuma abakiga, nyamara babakamira mu kitoze babarenganya!Niba Habyarimana yaragiliye nabi Nduga n'abatutsi, abakiga bagahindukira bagatanga umuhozi Kanyarengwe wagejeje umwega Kagame ku ngoma, abarwanyaga Habyarimana baragira ngo abakiga babe barabatabaye bakora iki kindi?
>Nashimye kandi uko werekanye akababaro ka ba Anastase ba Gikongoro,  barushye uwa Kavuna cyangwa se uwa Sisyphe biragaragara; uretse ko tutashoboye kubihuza na lya tora ly'ibara ly'umukara lyabo, ngo byaba byarasobanuraga gutora Kanyarengwe. Nyabuna wowe na bwana Ndolimana mutubabalire maze mwigore  mutubwire ibyabyo, kuko ntitwunva ukuntu mwaba mwarakunze uwashakaga gutera iwanyu ishyamba! 
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>Muvandimwe Ndolimana Miheto,Niba ibintu wandika ari ibyawe, uzikubite agashyi, niba kandi uri Gatumwe, bazamenyeko babuze uwo batuma.1. Navuze kuvakera ko ntemera amanjwe y'amoko, usibye amoko gakondo [clans], kuko ayandi [hutu/tutsi/twa] aturuka kuri Ryangombe [voir P.P.Gossiaux], kandi ari data cg
> mama ntanumwe wigeze ajya muby'abacwezi, b'idini rya Ryangombe.2. Navuze ko muri 72-3, bangeraga amajanja, ariko kari akarimi kavuzwa na mwene Nyamukaza [Felix Nzirorera], kubera impamvu zimuturutseho zidafite aho zihurira n'ukuri kwari kwihishe inyuma y'amabi, kandi ntacyo byacyuye. Nushobora kumubona uzamubaze.3. Ntaho nigeze nemeza uriya mubare uvuga wa 200.000. Nusoma title wibeshyemo, urasanga atari mu Rwanda mvuga, ahubwo ari ku Gikongoro. Naho kandi, je m'en moque, kuko nusoma neza urasanga uretse na
> 200.000 bavuga, nibaza ahubwo na 50.000 babarira iMurambi aho babakuye, kuko Gikongoro yose itabagezagaho; keretse babariyeho n'abaguye i Kibeho, kuko ngo Kanyarengwe bose yabitaga abatutsi, akumva we ahumbwo yahatera ishyamba, akaagura Nyungwe! Ce fut un vrai genocidaire, lui aussi. 4. Ndazi icyo uricyo, igumanire ntumpeho, ariko undekere amahoro yanjye. 5. Iti "iyo uba mu Rwanda mu gihe cya genocide yo muri 1994, abishi baba barakurangije cyangwa wagira amahirwe ukarokokera za 1000 Collines nka ba Makuza na Rwigema rwa MDR; uribaza ko abishi bari guhiga Makuza wowe ukiriho? ibi ndabikubwira kuko ngo mbere ya genocide wowe wabarirwaga mu batutsi babashije guhindura ubwoko,
> niba ari rumeur nabwiwe, ndasanaho umbwire ukuri kwawe nakire uko."Igisubizo: Bernard Makuza bamufunga muri za 89, bamuziza guhindura ubwoko, nari iKigali, navuyeyo baramufunguye, kuko ariho twakinaga umupira muma Championat des Cellules specialisees de la Capitale nari mbereye vice-president. Abo banunganungaga kuki batamfunganye na Makuza ko ntihishe?Kuki batwaye Makuza ngasigara kandi nari nkomeye kumurusha, ukumva batari kumwirukaho bansize?-Urashakase kunyumvishako data na mukuruwanjye, n'abanabe biciye ku Cyimihurura le 7 avril 1994, tres tot le matin, bishwe n'abirukanaga Bernard Makuza na Celestin Rwigema? Uzabeshye abahinde, yenda bo waba ubarusha kumenya aho imipaka y'Urwanda
> igarukira. Uti:"ni iki cyakunanije kwihaka (renier et retirer) ibyo wanditse aha ngo abatutsi ntibageraga kuri 200.000 mu Rwanda rwo muri 1994 kandi ngo igihe cy'umwaduko w'abazungu bari 1.000 rukumbi."Igisubizo: N'ubwo nari nagize icyo mbikubwiraho, reka nongereho ikindi kandi ntuzongere kunkurikirana, mbwira abumva: Uriya mubare wa 200.000 urava muli deduction mathematique kubera recherches zakozwe n'abanyamerika. Ntabwo nywemera par principe [kuko ntemera theorie z'amoko], ariko urabona ko logique yabo ifite sens kurusha abemeza ko Gisozi ihambweho abatutsi 300.000, kandi Kigali Ville itari ituwe n'abaturage bageze hariya.Umubare w'abatutsi batarenze 1.000, si mwemera par principe [pour la meme raison evoquee plus haut], ariko nkurije amateka twasigiwe na Kagame watubwiye uko abaje kwiyita abatutsi binjiye mu Rwanda n'umubare wabo, ngendeye no kubyandittswe n'umuganwa w'umunyamateka mugihugu cya Burundi aho bariya bene Baramba 3 baje baturuka, n'igihe baziye, nsanga uriya mubare wa 1.000 muri za 1960 ufite plus de sens que abavuga 800.000 bishwe muli 1994, mugihe umubare w'abariho icyo gihe utageraga kuri 700.000, kandi babara abacitse kw'icumu ugasanga bakabakaba 500.000, ndetse barenga, kuko Theodore Simburudari yemezaga ko azageza IBUKA kumubare 500.000, azi neza ko hari indi miryango y'abacitse kw'icumu, mu Rwanda, mumahanga, n'abandi badashaka kujya murayo mashyirahamwe, nk'abasirikare...!Ukuri n'uko abayise abatutsi bari bafite strategie yo kwinjiza benshi mubwoko bwabo
> kugirango babone uko b'infiltra abandi, bahishe ubuke bwabo, bakabaha abagore kugirango babone uko babarimbura, ariko abo binjije mubututsi ntibazagire narimwe babemera nk'ababo; kandi abahungu kavukire ka Baramba, ntibigeze bashaka kurongora abatari benewabo. Uzarebe mubagore 16 ba Musinga, uzambwire umubare w'abagorebe badakomoka kwa Rwakagara wabaye reference mumwirondoro w'abatutsi b'ubungubu. Sinkeneye kwitwa umututsi, kandi nimba umuhutu, nzaba umuhutu wa Yezu-Christu, sinzaba uw'umuntu usenga Ryangombe/Kiranga, kuko ntawe uba umuhutu w'undi yarabatijwe n'amazi n'Umwuka, mw'Izina rya Data na Mwana na Loho Mutagatifu, nka Charles Rudahigwa. Allez au Site Maranatha pour y recevoir la Bénédiction Complète des Cœurs Unis de la Très Sainte Trinité en Union avec le Cœur Immaculé de Marie !
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> Semahoro  ko ngo bakugeraga amajanja kubera kuvumbura ko uri umututsi!! bite
> byawe, urihakana ubwoko bwawe kuki? niba ari gahunda ya ndi umunyrwanda yakugezeho, byo komera! naho niba ari imikorerere nk'iya Karamira Forodo a.k.a fondateri wa hutu power kandi ari umututsi, cira kuko birakungura.Nyamara iyo uba mu Rwanda mu gihe cya
> genocide yo muri 1994, abishi baba barakurangije cyangwa wagira amahirwe ukarokokera za 1000 Collines nka ba Makuza na Rwigema rwa MDR; uribaza ko abishi bari guhiga Makuza wowe ukiriho? ibi ndabikubwira kuko ngo mbere ya genocide wowe wabarirwaga mu batutsi babashije guhindura ubwoko, niba ari rumeur nabwiwe, ndasanaho umbwire ukuri kwawe nakire uko.Hanyuma ariko, ni iki cyakunanije kwihaka (renier et retirer) ibyo wanditse aha ngo abatutsi ntibageraga kuri 200.000 mu Rwanda rwo muri 1994 kandi ngo igihe cy'umwaduko w'abazungu bari 1.000
> rukumbi.        De : Semahoro <byilin@yahoo.com> À : "kota venant kotakori@hotmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>; "radioitahuka@gmail.com" <radioitahuka@gmail.com>; "rudahi20@hotmail.com" <rudahi20@hotmail.com>; "tatien2miheto@yahoo.fr" <tatien2miheto@yahoo.fr>; "infotubeho@yahoo.fr" <infotubeho@yahoo.fr>;
> "fra.munya@wanadoo.fr" <fra.munya@wanadoo.fr>; "joy.imanzi@yahoo.fr" <joy.imanzi@yahoo.fr>; "skweli@yahoo.fr" <skweli@yahoo.fr>; "rwandalibre@yahoogroups.com" <rwandalibre@yahoogroups.com>  Envoyé le :
> Mardi 21 octobre 2014 18h47 Objet : Re: FW: [fondationbanyarwanda] Sites memoriaux ku Gikongoro ngo zaba zirimo abatutsi bakabakaba kuli 200.000!  Nikose Venant,Reka nguhe urugero rwa Anastase utari Rekeraho, ahubwo Makuza (original).Yabanje kuba umugaragu, urera umwana wa s/chef, umujyana kw'ishuri, akamugarura imuhira. Yigiye kw'idirishya, aza kuzarusha abandi bicaye imbere, abona kwinjizwa, arangije ajya gukomeza mu Buraya, agarukana impamya bushobozi y'ikirenga, bamushyingira umukobwa wabo, ahinduka
> umututsi.Abonye ntakundi aba abaye Parmehutu, mugihe ba Mbonyumutwa bataye umurongo, MRND ije imusuzuguye yanga kuyikorera, ariko umuhunguwe ibyiyemeje imusubiza ubututsi bwa nyina wari warabugabiye se. Kumugaragaro, mwene Makuza ntabwo ari muri FPR, ariko ni mubyara wa Kagame. Zihinduye imirishyo ejo, ubutegetsi bugahabwa aba"Hutsi", ba
> Rutayisire Boniface, wibazako Bernard Makuza, cyangwa Anastase Rekeraho batavuga akababaro kabo kungoma zayibanjirije?Jyewe navukiye ku Gikongoro, data na mama bose bari abasinga, basangwabutaka, bamwe Masabo yita ba Kavukire, kandi umwami wa Nyaruguru n'umwe mubagiye gutura amaturo Umwana w'Imana avuka. Ntabwo rero Gikongoro yagirwa kubwiganze bwa 95% n'abaje mu Rwanda kungoma ya Sekarongoro (goreka Nsoro)Ndi SemahoroFrom my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network."kota venant kotakori@hotmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>Aliko Bwana Byilingiro Ndi Semahoro nawe sinzi uko umeze,
> urahakanya ute bwana Ndolimana kandi na Premier wacu A. Murekezi yaragezaho akaduhishulira ko bulya nawe ali umututsi?Ahubwo reba neza kuko wasanga ababalirwaga ku Gikongoro mbere ya 1995 bulya 95 % bashobora kuba bali abatutsi! Icyokora ibi ni mubyemeza bilica bimwe by'uko indangamuntu yanditsemo ubwoko aliyo yatumye abatutsi bakorerwa genocide, ndetse na kamwe za USA zivuga ko bali minorite kaveho! Nyamara muzasanga intambara twarwanye ngo turarengera amoko ataliho zali zishingiye, byali nka ya nyamaswa yiruma ikilizo ivuga ko ali icy'indi ishaka guca! >Mbiswa daa. >>To: democracy_human_rights-digest@yahoogroupes.fr>From: fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>Date: Mon, 20 Oct
> 2014 17:21:46 -0700>Subject: [fondationbanyarwanda] Sites memoriaux ku Gikongoro ngo zaba zirimo abatutsi bakabakaba kuli 200.000!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>  >>>    >      >      >      >Ndolimana, uragira uti: "Ushatse kumenya abatutsi uko banganaga muri Gikongoro mbere ya genocide yo muri 1994, wahera kw'ibarura rigaragaza ko iMurambi ya Gikongoro hashyinguye abatutsi barenga 50.000, mu Cyanika hakaba hari +/-20.000, mu Bunyambili iKaduha hakaba hashyinguye +/-40.000, i Musange hashyinguye +/-10.000, muri Nyaruguru naho niko bimeze nubwo ho hari abaharokotse kubera kubasha guhungira iBurundi.Semahoro, ngirango uvuka Gikongoro niba ntibeshya, bityo iyi estimation y'abatutsi bari bahatuye
> (prefecture Gikongoro) mbere ya genocide, nawe wayikora maze warangiza ukongeraho abari hagati ya 15.000 na 25.000 bishwe muri genocide yo muri 1963."Iyo ndebye statistiques officielles ngendeye kuri Recensements ebyiri zibanziriza 1994, ahubwo nibaza nabariya 50.000 bari iMurambi aho babakuye, kuko Gikongoro yose itari ibagejejeho! Cyakora ubwo ubara ukageza mumwaka wa 1963, ibyoroshye ni uguhera muli 1995, kuko abaguye iKibeho amagufa yabo ariyo yoroshye kuboneka ko ari ayo abazize> genocide ya 1994, kurusha amagufa batanazi aho yagiye y'abo muli 1963.  Recevez la Bénédiction Complète des Cœurs Unisde la Très Sainte Trinité en Union avec le Cœur Immaculé de Marie !>>Ndi Semahoro>>www.byilin-hope.blogspot.com>>  >>    On Monday, October 20, 2014 5:28 AM, "tatienndolimana miheto tatien2miheto@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:>    >> > >>>>  >>>    >      >      >      So sorry Ignace, nari nagarukiye ku ntambara ya 1990-1994, ndakwinginze kandi ujye ugerageza kugira empathie, birafasha cyane, iyo uyigira muri echangees zacu, washoboraga gutekereza ko nshobora kuba nagushubije ngendeye kuri référentiel y'intambara ya 1990/1994.Ku byerekeye Kibeho, reka tubivugeho byimbitse, mu gihe cya genocide muri avril 1994 hiciwe abatutsi barenga 20.000, nyuma muri avril 1995> inkambi yaho isenywa na Leta gisirikari maze abaturage bari bayirimo barenga 130.000
> bataha iwabo ariko> hagwa abari hagati ya 375 (imibare ya Leta) na 5.000 (imibare ya zimwe muri za ONGs).        De : "Ignace Rudahunga rudahi20@hotmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr>  Envoyé le : Lundi 20 octobre 2014 10h33 Objet : RE: *DHR*
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>  >      >      >>Mbe Ndorimana,Waba ubiterwa n'ubuhumyi bwa politiki cyangwa bwaba ari ubugome? Buriya i Kibeho nta bahutu bahaguye? urwo kandi ni urugero gusa. Ariko mwagerageje tukaba abantu ,ibibi bibaye ku bandi bikatubabaza tutavanguye. Ese ubwo mutekereza ko iyi myitwarire hari benshi igirira nabi? Nyamara ibihe biri imbere bizaba bibi kurusha ibyashize niba tutivuguruye. Imana izakumfashirize iguhe ubuzima burambye kugirango uzabone ibizaza.To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.frFrom:> Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.frDate: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:15:22 +0100Subject: Re: *DHR*
> Re:>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>  >>>    >      >      >      Muvandimwe Ignace,Muri Gikongoro hari zone turquoise, nta ntambara yigeze ihabera, mu yandi magambo à ma connaissance nta bantu bahaguye basize intambara (ntabo amasasu yatarukiye bitagenderewe, nta bahiciwe n'abagome mu ntambara aribyo twita crimes de guerre, etc). >  >    De : "Ignace Rudahunga rudahi20@hotmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr>  Envoyé le : Lundi 20 octobre 2014 5h37 Objet : RE: *DHR* Re:  > >>>>  >>>    >      >      >      >>Ese ku GIKONGORO ho nta bahutu bahaguye? Niba barahaguye se aho
> bashyinguwe harazwi? Mbibajije kuko nabonye imibare yawe hari aho ishingiye ku ibarura ryo mu urwibutso.To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.frFrom: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.frDate: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:24:13 +0100Subject: Re: *DHR* Re:>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>  >>>    >      >      >      Puisqu'on y est, il apparaît clairement que seule la prefecture Gikongoro compte +/- 150.000 Tutsi tués pendant le génocide de 1994, soit donc un nombre proche des 200.000 publiés par les fameux professeurs/chercheurs pour les 10 prefectures, chercheurs qui ont certes été conseillés et abusés par certains rwandais. j'imagine que
> ces> chercheurs ne tarderont pas à retirer et ou corriger leurs publications.        De :
> "tatienndolimana miheto tatien2miheto@yahoo.fr> [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>  Envoyé le : Dimanche 19 octobre 2014 18h04 Objet : Re: *DHR* Re:  > >>>>  >>>    >      >      >      Ariko se wa mugabo we Semahoro,Uratubwira kugendera ku
> byasomwe cyangwa ibyakozweho na ba Gervais n'aba Professeurs/bashakashatsi barimo aba banyamerika badukanye ko abatutsi bazize genocide mu Rwanda ari 200.000 nk'aho twe tutari abantu bashobora gusesengura ikibazo tuganiraho (umubare w'abatutsi mbere ya 1959 na nyuma yaho kugeza genocide iraye iri bube).Jye mfite ubushobozi buruta ubwa Gervais bwo gusesengura iki kibazo mu karere mvukamo nk'uko nawe afite uburuta ubwange bwo kugisesengura mu karerere avukamo, aho nkomoka umuturage wese wari uhatuye mbere ya genocide, azi ko usibye icyahoze ari commune Musebeya, ahandi hose (Karambo, Musange na Muko) umusozi umwe kuri ibiri wari utuwe n'abatutsi gusa gusa.Ushatse kumenya abatutsi> uko banganaga muri Gikongoro mbere ya genocide yo muri 1994,> wahera kw'ibarura rigaragaza ko iMurambi ya Gikongoro hashyinguye abatutsi barenga 50.000, mu Cyanika hakaba hari +/-20.000, mu Bunyambili
> iKaduha hakaba hashyinguye +/-40.000, i Musange hashyinguye
> +/-10.000, muri Nyaruguru naho niko bimeze nubwo ho hari abaharokotse kubera kubasha guhungira iBurundi.Semahoro, ngirango uvuka Gikongoro niba ntibeshya, bityo iyi estimation y'abatutsi bari bahatuye (prefecture Gikongoro) mbere ya genocide, nawe wayikora maze warangiza ukongeraho abari hagati ya 15.000 na 25.000 bishwe muri genocide yo muri 1963.Iyi exercise nshobora gukora kuri Gikongoro, n'abandi bashobora kuyikora ku zindi prefectures bavukamo bakaba bagira une idée réaliste kuri iyi ngingo tuganiraho.Usibye Gisenyi,> Ruhengeri na Byumba, izindi Pregitura zose z'URwanda, ndavuga, Butare, Gitarama, Kigali (umugi na Kigali Ngari), Kibungo, Gikongoro, Kibuye na Cyangugu,> umuturage usanzwe abisuzumye yahita akora constat> nk'iyi mvuga ko abatutsi n'abahutu bari baturanye umusozi ku wundi.        De : "Semahoro byilin@yahoo.com
> [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> À : "Joy Imanzi joy.imanzi@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>  Envoyé le : Samedi 18 octobre 2014 5h46 Objet : Re: *DHR* Re:  > >>>>  >>>
>  >      >      >      Gervais nimumubaza imibare babonye muzumirwa!>>Mushatse mwakwemera iya Dr. Byanafashe, wemezako batarengaga 1000 kubw'abakoloni. Kandi kubigeraho mushatse mwabibona, muturutse kuri bariya bana 3 bene Mututsi
> mythique baje bava mu Buha bw'i Burundi, au 17eme siecle, ntibazagera kuli 1000 muli siecles 2 1/2! Ibindi ni ugutekinika.>Ndi Semahoro>>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.>>"Joy Imanzi joy.imanzi@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:>>>Muri iyo recensement  ya 1978, Niyibizi Silas yari yungirijwe na statisticien Condo Gervaisumwe mu bayobozi ba RNC.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Le Samedi 11 octobre 2014 16h49, "FX Munyarugerero fra.munya@wanadoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Banyarubuga,>>>>>>Nibarize Semakweli: uyu nyakwigendera François FUNGA uvuga ni wa wundi wandikaga muri Dialogue? Ko twabanye igihe kirekire no mu nama z'icyo kinyamakuru tuganira ku bibazo by'u Rwanda nta nkomyi, ko atigeze atubwira iby'iyo mibare wita ko ififitse y'ibarura ry'Abanyarwanda? Nzi ko atigeze ahungira muri Kongo nkuko ubyemeza (yaguye muri jenoside ya 1994). Nakwibutsa ko Ibarura rusange ry'Abanyarwanda (bari mu Rwanda icyo gihe) ryabaye muri Kanama 1978 riyobowe na démographe Silas NIYIBIZI. Ubanza akiriho umwegereye yagusobanurira iby'iyo mibare, itandukanye cyane n'iyo uvuga ko wabwiwe mw'ibanga!>>>>FX
> Munyarugerero.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Message du 11/10/14 16:25>>>> De : "skweli@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>>>>> A : Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>>>> Copie à :>>>> Objet : *DHR* Re:>>>>>>>>>>>> Excusez: le nom du démographe du Kinyaga est François FUNGA>>>Tandis que  le chef du Kinyaga est Fundi.>>>    >    >> 
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