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Bwana Tubeho twese n'abandi mwese, nibyiza ko abanyarwanda batera imbere mukumenya neza ibyatubayeho aliko ntimugire ngo biroroshye, bitwikiliwe n'amahawa menshi nkuko na Bwana Byilingiro aliho ababwira.

Twese twemera ko Genocide ali icyaha kibi koko, ntihazagire ubihakana, aliko sibyo gusa n'icyaha kiba kikanemezwa hakulikijwe inyungu za polotiki bashaka guhamya. Hali utoye akajambo keza ngo " ubukolonize bwa genocide".

Niyo mhanvu usanga babanza kwemeza genocide, nuko bigashumangirwa n'abagenga isi, noneho nyuma y'ibyo akaba aliho bashaka abayigizemo uruhare n'ibimenyetso ngo babahake uko bunva, babatongera iyo genocide ijoro n'umunsi, ndetse nta n'isoni bakanayigereka no kubadahuye nayo iyo hali icyo byafashaho muli porotiki.

Ikindi mutakwibagirwa nuko muli iyi si habayemo ubwicanyi bwinshi kandi henshi (bwa genocide ukulikije uko bayisobanura -definition-). Aliko izo genocides, siko zose zemerwa zikanakorerwa ibyangombwa byose; hali iziba bakazibona aliko bakicecekera nuko zigahinduka genocides zivugwa gusa zidahawe ibyangombwa byose (zisa n'izivugwa gusa mu matamatama). Izemejwe rero bahita bafata abali muli ako gace zishyirwaho n'akarere kabo bakabigira nkuko kera Umwami yagiraga agahugu n'umuhinza atsinze (bulya abanyrwanda koko bali bazi ubwenge). Bwana Byilingiro asobanure niyobishaka ukuntu umwami yakuragaho ibyaho byose, umuhinza yaneshejwe agashahurwa, abo akunze akabagira abaja n'abajakazi (bacurwa bufuni na buhoro kugeza bategekwa kubyinira iyambaye ibishahu by'uwali umuhinza wabo), abo adashaka akabica. Na genocide yemewe n'ibyo iba igomba guhabwa!

Tuvuge rero kuby'abahutu. Ntabwo rwose ali abahutu bategekanye na RPF bababaye abambere mu kuvuga amabi yakozwe ku bandi bahutu, ahubwo ni ba experts bagiye kureba ubwicanyi bw'Ikibeho, abagiye kureba ubwicanyi bwakorewe imhunzi muli Kongo kimwe nkuko expert Renez Segui yaje agatangaza amabi yakorerwaga mu Rwanda rw'abatabazi.

Hanyuma ni umutware Kagame wavuze muli za Hard talks nka kumwe abanyamerika bakoresha "to face consequences" ko iyo Habyarimana amutanga nawe yali kumwica. Umutware yarongeye avugira ku karubanda ko yakulikiye imhunzi i Kongo, abo ashaka akabagarura, abo adashaka akabica.

Ibi kandi ntiyibeshyeye kuko rubanda rwose (abahutu, abatutsi, abatwa ndetse n'abanyekongo) rwarabibonye uretse ko rutinya gutanga ubuhamya ngo rwisunikire iminsi. Ahubwo umugabo Tubeho twese ni igihangange, kuba azi ukuntu Wikleaks yerekanye ko Oncle Sam amucunga, nyamara akarenga akavuga!

None baliya bahutu bali mu ngoma hamwe na RPF nabo bamaze kubona ko baceceka ibyagaragaye baratoboye baravuga. Ntabwo ali ubutwari budasanzwe cyangwa se kudatinya inkiko, kuko barasubira mu byabaye kimomo; habaye inkiko rero bazitaba ntakundi nuko zikabarekura zibanje kubatara nka bamwe bo mu batabazi. Bwana Byilingiro rero niyo guphana nabi Bwana Tubeho twese ngo aragilira nabi baliya bahutu, sibyo rwose, uvuze ko Nyilurugo yapfuye siwe uba amwishe!

None rero aya mabi yakorewe abahutu, akaba azwi na bose kuki usanga bose bahindukira bakayihunza, yemwe na za Justice bayaziyagaragaliza zigasa naho zifashwe n'ikinya, ubwo buhamya ntizibwandike cyangwa se ngo zigire icyo zibuvugaho, ahubwo ugasanga ababuze uko bagira barayafefeka bayita ngo ni ibyaha by'intambara?

Mwibuke ko twabonye ko genocide yemewe hali ibyo igomba guhabwa. Ni aho ikibazo kili, kibera Loni n'abandi bose ihulizo, bibaza uko bali bufate abo bagizwe abacakara (colonises) ba jenocide yakorewe abatutsi bagahindukira bakabagira abakoloni ba bamwe mu batutsi! Ngibyo ibinasobanura ya nkundura ngo "uravuga jenocide yakorewe abahutu araba apfobeje genocide yakorewe abatutsi", ngibyo ibyatumye ba Dominique Sopo biva inyuma bati "parler du sang Hutu, c'est salir le sang Tutsi" kandi ngo bashinzwe kurwanira ukubaho kwiza kw'ikiremwa-muntu shenge. Nta n'uwigeze ababaza iyo mikorere yabo muli la France mere des droits de l'homme kandi ntabwo ali uko France idafite abazobereye mu kujora amafuti!

Ngibyo bavandimwe, uwunva yunve "le monde comme il va".

PS: Urugero rwa za genocides zivugwa mu matamatama kubera ko bazibulira umunani, abacakara n'inyungu za porotiki:

amabi y'i burundi muli 1972, ay'i Ntega na Marangara, ayakorewe abarumeniya, ayakorewe abaherero, ay'i Rubero-triangle Uganda, ayo muli Soudan, ayo muli Centrafrika, ayakorewe abahutu, ayakorewe aba indiens, etc.

To: infotubeho@yahoo.fr; Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
From: byilin@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:31:17 -0700
Subject: [fondationbanyarwanda] UKO RUTAYISIRE BONIFACE AREGA MUCYAYENGE GOUVERNEMENT YALIYOBOWE NA TWAGIRAMUNGU F. KO YAKOZE GENOCIDE Y'ABAHUTU

UKO RUTAYISIRE BONIFACE AREGA MUCYAYENGE GOUVERNEMENT YALIYOBOWE NA TWAGIRAMUNGU F. KO YAKOZE GENOCIDE Y'ABAHUTU

Muvandimwe Boniface,

Ushobora kuba utarabitekerejeho, aliko rekankwereke ko niba wiyemeje gukora politiki, ugomba kumenya ko tout langage/acte mal placé d'un politicien ruine son auteur.

1. Niba wumva kandi ukemeza ko gouvernement yaliyobowe na Twagiramungu F. yemeye genocide yakorewe abahutu, ntiwahindukira ngo wumvishe abandi bazi kumva ko gouvernement yali iyobowe na Twagiramungu F. itakoze genocide y'abahutu, ko ahubwo icyaha kizagerekwa kuli FPR igihe kigeze kandi gouvernement ya Twagiramungu F. wa MRD yalihuliwemo n'amashyaka menshi, nkuko amasezerano ya Arusha yabiteganyaga.

2. Kuba wakoresha izina rya Twagiramungu F. nk'umutanga-buhamya, bitandukanye no gukomatanya « gouvernement iyobowe na Twagiramungu F. », kuko uba uvuga Leta yose, collégialité du gouvernement oblige.

3. Sinzi impamvu utumvako responsabilité du gouvernement ya Twagiramungu bifite antécédent. Nakubwiyeko Dr. Jacques Bihozagara watsindiwe iBruxelles kuko urukiko rwasanze ibyakorewe iKibeho muli avril 1995 bihama Leta yalimo kandi Impunzi zali mumirimo yali ashinzwe, non pas nk'umuyoboke wa FPR mais comme membre du gouvernement yayoborwaga na Twagiramungu F.

4. Kuba baliya bali bagize iyo gouvernement barayivanywemo bakazano kwemerako genocide yabayeho bakili muliyo gouvernement, ntibibagira abere ubwabyo, ahubwo ubwere bazabugirwa n'ubucamanza, ubwo dossier wayibyukije.

5. Sinumva impamvu wiyibagiza uko imanza zagenze kuli genocide-tutsi, kuko bamwe muba ministres bomuli gouvernement yali iyobowe na Jean Kambanda baje kugirwa abere babanje kujya muli prison imyaka n'imyaniko. Iyo Kambanda amenya amacenga bamukoreye ngo yemere iliya genocide ntaba yarayemeye, kuko n'ubu aracya jurirako bamwibye umugono. Siwe gusa kandi, na Bagaragaza iyo amenya ko azafungwa iliyamyaka ntaba yaremeye ibinyoma

6. Impungenge mfite n'uko mbona agacengo utega baliya bakeba bawe muli politiki ubategeka kungufu ngo bemereko habayeho genocide hutu, bamaze kubyemera none urabatega umutego w'urukiko ngo ruzabibabaze [bafunze] mwabafungiyeho lisiti y'abiyamamaza!

7. Ntaho nivuguruza, mugabo wa mama ! Ahubwo urakomeza kwerekana ko ali ibyo mvuga n'ibyo wowe ubwawe wishoyemo utumva iyo bigana.

7.1. Ntabwo mvuga ko amoko [mwita ethnies] atabaho, kuko ndacyemeza ko ali d'ordre spirituel et non biologique contrairement aux clans [amoko gakondo].

7.2. Ndavugako nkulikije historiologie Alexis Kagame, ubwoko bwitwa tutsi buturuka kuli Mututsi, un nom mythologique, akaba yariyiyitaga « umwega wo hakurya ». Ni ukuvuga reroko, au sens biologique, abatutsi bo mu Rwanda babalirwa mubwoko bw'abega n'ababukomokaho, abandi ni abatutsi par cooptation. Umubare w'abali batutsi bumva bakomoka kuli « Mututsi » nibo nagusabye ngo udushakire, maze bazanadusobanulire ijuru baturukamo iryaliryo, kandi abaCwezi [de Kitara] bava mukuzimu, aho Ryangombe, umwami wabo yagiye gutegulira abasigaye bazamusangayo.

7.3. Selon P.P.Gossiaux, Tutsi/Hutu/Twa ni ethnies ainsi nommées par Ryangombe, non pas entant que personnes physiques mais comme esprits dont il était rois. Dans le premier cas, abatutsi bahuriye mukwemera [culte Cwezi] et dans le cas Gossiaux, les ethnies « Tutsi/Hutu/Twa » sont de faux esprits.

7.4. Iyo nikirije intero Rutayisire Boniface ateye, ntabwo ali ukuberako mbanemera amagambo ayigize, ahubwo n'ukugirango mburire benewacu bayibyina bataraka batazi uko bayibyina mukiganza ngo bamucunge n'agwa munka batazasigara mukirere.

7.5. Iyo nkora analyse en termes Hutu/Tutsi, ntabwo bivugako mbanemera izo « ethnies »/« classes sociales » au sens biologique/sociologique, ahubwo ngerageza kwishyira muli logique yawe kugirango nkwereke son incohérence/inconséquence. Autrement, ndacyemerako ntamunyarwanda ushobora kuba umu-Christu kandi ngo anabe umu-Hutu/Tutsi ou Twa, n'uwabyiyemeza aba ali ikirumira-habili, atazi ibyavuga, kuko ntawe ukeza abami babili.

8. Ntuvange abaYahudi n'abahutu utaramenya icyo abahutu alibo, aho bava n'uko bagenda ; nibo b'iwanyu.

9. Iyo gymnastique d'esprit ulimo uteresha inzuzi n'uko zagupfubanye, uretseko ucyerekanako tutali kumurongo [longueur d'ondes] umwe. Byaba rero byiza ubanje ukarangize ibyo mu Rwanda byahafi wakagombye kuba wumva neza, aho gusambira nk'isuri, kandi nkagusaba kutamvugire cyangwa ngo umvugishe ibyo ntavuze.

10. Références za génocide bazishakira muli résolution(s) ya/za Nations-Unies ntibarebera kubyakozwe cyangwa ibitakozwe n'abahandi mugihe no kumpamvu bitandukanye. Abayahudi ntibali muntambara kandi n'abayibakoreraga ntabwo balibagize ethnie imwe muli ethnies z'abayahudi [batagira]. Sinumva ukuntu wakwitwaza ubuhutu ukishinjikiliza ubayahudi. Nkumenyesheko abayahudi se reclament descendants de David/Salomon qui étaient divisés en clans dont celui de Bethlehem, wowe ukabagereranya na ethnie y'abahutubo mu Rwanda utanaziko bayikomora mukuzimu kwa Ryangombe. Uracyerekana impamvu ukeneye kubanza kumenya sujet yawe mbereyo gushorera abanyarwanda mu kigare nawe utazi imva n'imvano yacyo!

11. Ntabwo nterwa ubwoba n'ibibazo byawe kuko bidashyitse, ahubwo kubibaza uragira neza kunyereka aho imyumvire yawe igarukira, cyangwa igoramiye. Umugabo nyakwigendera Frederic Nzamurambaho yaravuze ati : « Twanze ubuhake bw'inka ntituzemera ubw'insina». None ntiwabona ushaka gusimbuza ubucolonize bwa genocide ubundi, aho wumvako buliwese udakorana na FPR agomba kwemera genocide hutu? Bene iyomvugo/ngiro bayita politiki y'IGITUGU , kandi byitwako alicyo murwanya !

12. Ntawe ngamije gutera ubwoba, sinanumva impamvu wihutira kubavugira ibyo batagutumye kandi reaction zanjye kunyandiko wabanditseho bose bazisomera banazi kwisubiliza. Waba wowe wiruka amasigamana ali ubuhoro, kuko wanyumvishagako ntabarusha ubwenge ? Nonese twumve ko wowe waba wiyumvamo ko ububarusha ubasubiliza? -Nawe ikikibazo ntikikurakaze, ndaganira.

13. Ikimbabaza ntakindi, n'uko idini rya Ryangombe [Sekibi] n'ikinyoma cya Ntarabana byakwiliye mubana ba Gihanga/Ruganzu Ndoli, bikaba bimaze no gushyushya no gushinga imitwe mu Banyarwanda !

Ndi Semahoro

On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:56 AM, Toni Dmi FURIJERITA <tonidmifurijerita@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Sasa uyu Boniface sinunviseko ari umusazi? ibyo yandika kuki mubiha agaciro mumusubiza?

Mwarasaze namwe!

Le Dimanche 23 mars 2014 0h04, TUBEHO VictimRwanda <infotubeho@yahoo.fr> a écrit :

Byiringiro,

ibyo urimo ukora urwanya amateka yawe ya genocide hutu urabikora kugirango ugere kuwuhe musaruro.

Kubona ugeza naho utera ubwoba ba Gasana Anastase ngo nibemera genocide hutu baraba birega urabona ari abana batazi icyatsi n'ururo?

Urumva ubarusha ubwenge no kureba kure?

Ibyo ukora ugamije iki kugeza n'aho wivuruguza buri kanya. Umwanya umwe uravuga ko amoko atabaho, uwundi mwanya ukavuga genocide ikorerwa abahutu igikomeza, uwundi mwanya ukavuga ba Gasana barimo birega bagombye kutavuga genocide maze warangiza ukivuguruza uvuga ko bizamera nk'abatabazi kandi wibukako umutabazi utarakoze icyaha kugiti cye ntacyo abazwa ndetse n'abagiye bagerekwaho ibyaha bamwe bagizwe abere. Ba gasana ko ntabyaha bakoze kugiti cyabo urumva bagira ubwoba bw'iki bwo kuvuga ibyo bazi babonye?

Ariko ubwo wagizengo abantu ntibarimo gukurikira uko ugenda wivuguruza ? Kubera iki urwanya genocide hutu yakorewe abahutu ? Upfa iki n'abahutu? Niba wowe utari umuhutu reka abahutu bivugire ibyabo hanyuma niwumva bakuvuze ubiyame.

Tureke tuvugire abahutu n'abatutsi n'abanyarwanda kuko ibyo tuvuga niukuri kwabayeho. Niba ushaka kubikora ukundi ngaho tangiza urundi rugamba ariko uru rwacu uruhe amahoro.Ikikubabaje se n'uko rumaze kumenyekana ku isi yose nk'uko wuvuze ko inyandiko zacu zikwira isi yose ?

Twizere ko ibi bibazo byose twabajije bitari bukurakaze kuko kwari ukuganira nawe.

TUBEHO TWESE

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On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:50 PM, TUBEHO VictimRwanda <infotubeho@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Byiringiro,

Burya maze kukumva ntabwo tuvuga ibintu bimwe.Wowe iyo uvuga genocide hutu cyangwa Tutsi ntaho ushyira uburyo yakozwe muturere twose. Niba udahakana genocide y'abayahudi ukaba wemera ko abayahudi bakorewe genocide, uzasanga n'abahutu barishwe muburyo bumwe n'abayahudi muturere tumwe nka turiya twa Byumba, Umutara Kibungo, Kigalingari, Amayaga, etc.

Niba utari ubizi ubimenye ko inkotanyi zifatanyije n'abatutsi bamwe extremistes, bazaga bagahiga kumisozi abahutu,abahutu bamwe bakicirwa aho abafite imbaraga bakabajyana mubigo centre de transit bakarundamo noneho imodoka zikaza nimugoroba gupakira bakajyana mubigo babatwikiragamo ari bazima cyangwa bakubiswe agafuni.Etc.

Wibukeko n'abayahudi ariko byagenze uretse ko bo hakoreshejwe train.

Ibyo uvuga rero birashaka gupfobya genocide hutu kubushake ariko ntabwo bivanaho ko abahutu bishwe muburyo bumwe n'abayahudi.Kandi wibukeko abayahudi isi yose irabyemera nanjye nawe turabyemera. Kuki rero wemera iby'abayahudi ugashaka gupfobya iby'abahutu kandi bose barishwe kimwe?

Jye ahubwo ndabona mwakwerura mukavuga impamvu murwanya genocide yakorewe abahutu kandi abahutu barishwe muburyo bumwe n'abayahudi.

Niba utemera genocide y'abayahudi urumva ko tutahuza imibonere y'ibintu kuko jye ndayemera ndetse ndayubaha.

N'abanyarwanda bashyira mugaciro nibarambure amaso barebe neza ikihishe inyuma muguhakana genocide hutu kandi yarakozwe kimwe n'iy'abayahudi. Kuki abahutu bemera genocide tutsi noneho bagashidikanya kuri genoicide yakorewe benewabo b'abahutu. Abibeshya ko guhakana genocide hutu mu Rwanda kubatutsi cyangwa kubahutu bizibagiza genocide zabayeho baribeshya. Genocides hutu na tutsi zabayeho muzakurana nazo musazane nazo, ndetse mugende muzisige n'abavutse bazisange nabo bazasige. Abazihakana murata igihe. Kwikoma abahutu rero ntabwo ari ukureba kure kuko mushaka ko umuhutu aguma mubuja n'ubwoba bw'iteka baregwa genocide kandi nabo barayikorewe. Ariko se Byiringiro, ari Kagame wishe abahutu abaziza icyo baricyo agamije kubahanaguraho, hanyuma namwe mugaturuka hirya mugamije guhanaguraho imvugo isobanura ko abahutu bishwe bazira ibyo baribyo (ni ukuvuga genocide hutu ) murumva mudakorera kagame? Nyamara ubwenge bw'umuhutu kubandi bahutu ni ntakavuro. Aho gutekereza muganisha kukumvikanisha ko umuhutu yishwe muburyo bumwe n'umuyahudi ahubwo murimo murasenya umuhutu!!!! Nyamara ubu bwenge mubura mukumvikanisha genocide hutu ninabwo mwabuze muguhangana na FPR ingoma ya kinani ikiriho. Nkawe niba uhakana ko habayeho genocide hutu noneho ukongera ukivuguruza ngo iracyakomeza uri muyihe logique ? Nyamara nakubwiye ko ibisobanuro byose uzatanga byose bivuye i kuzimu no mu ijuru udutsindagiraho kungufu aho amoko hutu tutsi yaturutse, ntabwo bizavanaho genocide hutu na tutsi.Ntabwo bizavanaho ko umuhutu yishwe azizwa ubuhutu bwe n'umututsi akazizwa ubututsi bwe.

Aho uvuga ko baTwagiramungu Faustin na ba Gasana birega iyo bemeye kohabeyeho genocide hutu, urimo urakoresha arguments zidafashe kuko wibagirwako icyaha ari gatozi. Abatabazi ntabwo bigeze bafungirwa ko bari muri gouvernement y'abatabazi ahubwo bagiye bafungirwa ibyaha bakoze kugiti cyabo igihe bari bakiri muri ubwo butegetsi. Na ba Gasana cyangwa abandi bakiri muri FPR niba batarakoze ibyaha ntabyo bashobora kuryozwa. Urabizi ko n'abatazi bamwe bagizwe abere. Urumva rero ko intego yawe ari ukurwanya genocide hutu ndetse ugatera ubwoba n'abatangabuhamya nkaba Gasana bashatse kuyemeza nk'ababihagazeho. Aha rwose wishyize hanze kuko werekanye ko burya arguments zawe uhambira kumateka y'abatutsi n'abahutu munkomoko bishoba no kuba ataribyo ibyo utubwira ahubwo ukaba ugamije kubuza genocide hutu kuvugwa kubera izindi mpamvu wifitiye zitazwi.

TUBEHO TWESE

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"Mwe gutera ubwoba ba Gasana Anastase, Twagiramungu Faustin, Habyarimana, Rwaka n'abandi. Abo bagabo bemeye genocide hutu ni abatangabuhamya ntabyaha bya genocide hutu babarwaho. Birazwi ko gouvernement bari barimo itari iyabo nta n'ijambo bari bafitemo ninayo mpamvu babaye impunzi abandi baricwa." (Rutayisire Boniface)

Muvandimwe Boniface,

Ntabwo ali Byilingiro utera ubwoba abali bagize gouvernement yayoborwaga na Twagiramungu F., ahubwo niwowe, Rutayisire Boniface, aho ukwirakwiza inyandiko kw'isi yose ziheshwa uburemere na titre yazo ivugako "GOUVERNEMENT YAYOBOWE NA TWAGIRAMUNGU F. YEMEJE GENOCIDE HUTU"

Wavugase ute ko Twagiramungu F. yayoboye gouvernement muli texte wohereza mumahanga, maze wakwisobanura imbere y'abanyarwanda ukumvisha abahunze cyangwa birukanywe mw'iliya gouvernement ntabushobozi bali bafite kandi uzi aba ministres bafunzwe na TPIR halimo nabamwe bamazemo imyaka irenga 10 bakaza kugirwa abere? Les memes causes produisent les memes effets, ngirango ibyo urabizi!

1.Niba ushinja gouvernement, ntabwo iyaliho yali iya FPR, ahubwo ngo yubahirizaga amasezerano ya Arusha, ikitwa iy'ubumwe, yayoborwaga na Twagiramungu F., kandi ntanumwe mubali bayigize wigeze guhunga kubera/cyangwa ngo yamagane amarorerwa yakorewe iKibeho muli avril 1995.Niba ibyabereye iKibeho le 22 avril 1995 atali genocide yakozwe na gouvernement [Bihozagara yemejwe n'urukiko rw'iBruxelles ko gouvernement yalimo yakoze aliya mahano, bityo ibyo yaregaga ikinyamakuru ko cyamuharabitse yarabitsindiwe], n'uko hali n'ikibazo cyo kumva genocide ubwabyo

Ndi Semahoro

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:26 PM, TUBEHO VictimRwanda <infotubeho@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Bwana Byiringiro n'abandi,

Mwe gutera ubwoba ba Gasana Anastase, Twagiramungu Faustin, Habyarimana, Rwaka n'abandi. Abo bagabo bemeye genocide hutu ni abatangabuhamya ntabyaha bya genocide hutu babarwaho. Birazwi ko gouvernement bari barimo itari iyabo nta n'ijambo bari bafitemo ninayo mpamvu babaye impunzi abandi baricwa. Murabizi ko ba cyiza n'abandi batashoboye guhunga bishwe.

Abo bagabo bemeye genocide hutu yakozwe na FPR kandi bari mubutegetsi bwayo ni intwari kuko batashyize imbere kwikunda. Ahubwo bagize umutima wa kimuntu wo kwitangira abandi bahutu maze baremera bemeza kumugaragaro ko FPR yakoze genocide hutu. Kuba barakoranye nayo bakemera bakayirega genocide hutu ni ubwitanye kuko baziko ari abatangabuhamya bakomeye imbere y'amahanga.

Nk'uko rero uko kubita intwari byarwaje bamwe umutwe ndetse n'abandi bakabihinduramo ikibazo cya Kiga na Nduga n'ibindi, ibyo rwose nimubivemo ahubwo mumfashe tubakire nk'intwari maze tubahe ijambo.

Nk'umuntu witangira ikibazo cya genocide hutu na tutsi nimumfashe tubakire nk'abatangabuhamya bakomeye kandi baje tubakeneye. ndetse n'abandi benshi barimo abatutsi n'abahutu nibaze bwangu kuko barakenewe.

22/3/2014

Rutayisire Boniface

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On Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:50 PM, TUBEHO VictimRwanda <infotubeho@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Museminari n'abandi murimo kurwana intambara y'ukuri no guca akarengane,

Ndagirango mbashimire mbikuye kumutima kuko murimo murahagarara kumateka yanyu ari nayo yacu twese. Nimukomere muhabe abagabo n'abadamu mudatsimburwa n'abagamije gusenya cause izabohora abanyarwanda nk'uko wabivuze.

Buri wese kandi natinyuke aho ari hose arwanire ishyaka iyi cause haba kukarubanda cyangwa mubuzima bw'abantu kugiti cyabo.

Nanjye nzakoresha uko nshoboye iyi cause ihuze opposition n'abanyarwanda b'amoko yose uturere twose n'amashyaka yose.

Ndabashimiye

Rutayisire Boniface

President w'Ishyaka Banyarwanda akaba na President wa Tubeho Twese ASBL

Tel (32) 488250305

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Le Samedi 22 mars 2014 17h10, Museminali Bauduin <mubud06@yahoo.fr> a écrit :

Nzabagerageza n'amashumi yawe ndakeka ko hatagaragaye ko habaye génocide hutu mu Rwanda gusimbura Kagamé ntacyo bizatanga kuko uzafata ubutegetsi avuga génocide tutsi gusa ntacyo azamarira imbaga y'abanyarwanda batsikamiwe n'agatsiko kayobowe na Kagamé.Kuvuga rero ko RUTAYISIRE afite obsession kuri génocide hutu ntabwo byagombye kugusarisha wowe n'amashumi yawe! Cg mubabajwe n'uko mubona uyu Rutayisire yabitangiye kera akaba amaze kubyumvikanisha?Noneho SHEMA we aramugereranya na NGEZE Hassan! Ahaaa! Uwo Ngeze yakoreraga arazwi ntimukajijishe!

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On Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:22 PM, TUBEHO VictimRwanda <infotubeho@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Bwana Byiringiro n'abandi,

Nk'uko rero uko kubita intwari byarwaje bamwe umutwe ndetse n'abandi bakabihinduramo ikibazo cya Kiga na Nduga n'ibindi, ibyo rwose nimubivemo ahubwo mumfashe tubakire nk'intwari maze tubahe ijambo.

22/3/2014

Rutayisire Boniface

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Le Samedi 22 mars 2014 19h16, "byilin@yahoo.com" <byilin@yahoo.com> a écrit :

"Abantu bahakana cyangwa se badatinyuka kuvuga ibyabaye ku banyarwanda bya genocide hutu yakozwe na FPR Inkotanyi ku misozi hirya no hino mu Rwanda no muri Zaire-Congo, baba bakingira ikibaba FPR." (Dr. A.Gasana"

Dr. A. Gasana,

Sinumva ukuntu utabonako Rutayisire ashyira iyo "genocide hutu" kuli gouvernement wali ulimo kandi yali iyobowe na Faustin Twagiramungu. FPR siyo yonyine yali muli gouvernement, kandi niba ingabo zaricanye, zali ziyobowe na general Habyarimana. Nimwe rero Rutayisire ashyirisha kuli liste y'abagenocidaire mbere yuko yikoma FPR yakoraga programu ya gouvernement. Nonse se Jean Kambanda ntafungiwe ibyo yiyemereye kandi yali muli MDR [nawe ukibeshya ko abatabazi bali muli MRND]?

Nonese iyo mwemeye ko gouvernement ya Faustin Twagiramungu yalimo baliya ba ministre bose muzi yakoze genocide, mwumva mwibwira gute ko iyo genocide itabareba kandi ingabo zali izanyu, abagize gouvernement?

Nonese iyo logique ya Rutayisire Boniface mwemera mwumva ibajyanahe mwe mwali muli gouvernement dit genocidaire, [izababalira ngo kuko mwemeyeko yakozwe kandi byali muli gahunda yanyu]?

Ndi Semahoro

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On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:19 PM, "byilin@yahoo.com" <byilin@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dr. A. Gasana,

Nonese iyo logique ya Rutayisire Boniface mwemera mwumva ibajyanahe mwe mwali muli gouvernement dit genocidaire, [izababalira ngo kuko mwemeyeko yakozwe kandi byali muli gahunda yanyu]?

Ndi Semahoro

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:34 PM, Anastase Gasana <gasana31@gmail.com> wrote:

Baudouin namwe basomyi banditsi,

Abantu bahakana cyangwa se badatinyuka kuvuga ibyabaye ku banyarwanda bya genocide hutu yakozwe na FPR Inkotanyi ku misozi hirya no hino mu Rwanda no muri Zaire-Congo, baba bakingira ikibaba FPR. Ni bo ahubwo bakorerera bakanakorana na FPR barangiza muri uko gukorana na FPR no mu kwihishahisha kwabo bakajya kubitwerera abandi nka kuriya Shimamungu yabeshyeye Rutayisire.

Byantangaje kubona muri iki gihe Kagame na FPR bashyizeho icyunamo cya genocide yakorerewe abatutsi cy'agahato ku gihugu kuva mu kwezi kwa mbere umwaka wa 2014 aho kuba mu kwa kane, Pierre Nzabagerageza akirengagiza ibyo yibarisha ngo" Why is this guy obsessed with "genocide hutu" entre guillemts, bivuga we ko atemera ko iyo genocide hutu yabayeho.Kagame yanze kuyobora East African Community ariwe wari utahiwe atanga impamvu ko ari too busy mu gutegura anniversaire y'imyaka 20 ya genocide tutsi. None umuyobozi w'ishyaka Banyarwanda Bwana Boniface Rutayisire yavuga ati nyamara uriya Kagame na FPR/APR Inkotanyi nabo bakoze genocide hutu nayo nivugwe a l'occasion y'iriya anniversaire ya 20 ans, abahutu nabo bahabwe uburenganzira bwo kumenya ababiciye ababo, aho babajugunye, babashe kubashyingura mucyubahiro nabo kubaririra no kubibuka, umuntu akihanukira ngo uvuga ibi ni "obsessed with geocide hutu" koko!!! Nguko uko abantu birirwa babeshya ngo bararwanya FPR Inkotanyi kandi mu by'ukuri baba bayisyigikiye nk'aba bose bahakana genocide hutu yakozwe n'iyo FPR. Hari n'abahakana ko nta genocide tutsi yabayeho kubera ko ari ba defenseurs fervents ba leta y'abatabazi ya MRND, CDR na hutu power movement noneho bakibwira bibeshya ko guhakana ko habaye genocide hutu hari icyo bibafashaho muri negationisme yabo ya genocide tutsi. Ntacyo. Genocide tutsi yarangije kwemerwa n'abanyarwnda babonye iba mu gihugu cyabo, n'amahanga yarangije akanashyiraho urukiko mpuzamahanga rwo kuburanisha ababa baragize uruhare muri iyo genocide tutsi. Twe twemera ko genocide tutsi yabaye, ariko ntitwemera biriya abatutsi bamwe bandika/bavuga ngo: "tuzaca imanzaaaaaa! kugeza igihe isi izashirira"; ngizo za "ndi umunyarwanda " zitegeka abahutu gusaba imbabazi z'icyaha kibi nka kiriya cya genocide batakoze, kandi abatutsi bamwe bo muri FPR/APR barakoze genocide hutu nayo izwi n'abanyarwnda bose baba abahutu bayirokotse baba n'abatutsi bayibonye iba mu Rwanda no muri Congo. Kuki iyo genocide yo itavugwa? Ni nde ufite inyungu z'uko iyo genocide itavugwa nayo? Ni uwayikoze bien sur ariwe FPR/APR Inkotanyi. Ba Shimamungu, Pierre Nzabagerageza n'abandi mwibasiye Rutayisire kuko ashyira buri gihe imbere iriya cause ya genocide hutu, abanyarwnda barababona ko ari mwe ahubwo mushyigikiye FPR muyifasha gusisibiranya no guhakana ko genocide hutu yabaye kandi ari ukuri abanyarwanda bose bazi babonye.(Gasana Anastase, chairman wa PRM/MRP-ABASANGZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).

2014-03-22 12:07 GMT-04:00 Museminali Bauduin <mubud06@yahoo.fr>:

Nzabagerageza n'amashumi yawe ndakeka ko hatagaragaye ko habaye génocide hutu mu Rwanda gusimbura Kagamé ntacyo bizatanga kuko uzafata ubutegetsi avuga génocide tutsi gusa ntacyo azamarira imbaga y'abanyarwanda batsikamiwe n'agatsiko kayobowe na Kagamé.Kuvuga rero ko RUTAYISIRE afite obsession kuri génocide hutu ntabwo byagombye kugusarisha wowe n'amashumi yawe! Cg mubabajwe n'uko mubona uyu Rutayisire yabitangiye kera akaba amaze kubyumvikanisha?Noneho SHEMA we aramugereranya na NGEZE Hassan! Ahaaa! Uwo Ngeze yakoreraga arazwi ntimukajijishe!

M.B

Le Samedi 22 mars 2014 1h32, Pierre Nzabagerageza <pierrenzabagerageza@yahoo.com> a écrit :

Why is this guy obsessed with "genocide hutu"??

On Friday, March 21, 2014 6:13 PM, TUBEHO VictimRwanda <infotubeho@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Luc we, uragamba iki ko nta message yawe iriho?

"Uzirikane aya magambo:

Genocide hutu igomba kuvugwa kuko noneho Premier Ministre wayoboye gouvernement yayikoze ariwe Twagiramungu yemera iyo genocide hutu (voir interview Ikondera). Ndetse sinawe wenyine uyemera ahubwo gouvernement ye yose irayemera. Ministre Gasana Anastase wabaye muinisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga akaba n'ambassadeur muri ONU yemera iyo genocide hutu ndetse yaranabitangaje arangije abishyira no mumahame y'ishyaka rye kugirango hatazagira igihindukaho

Ministiri w'ingabo Habyarimana Emmanuel yemera ko ingabo yari ayoboye za FPR zakoze genocide hutu.
Minisitiri w'umutekano Rwaka Théobald yemera genocide hutu. Minisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga Ndagijimana JMV yemera genocide hutu, etc.
Muri make abahutu bakoranye na FPR bose bagaragaje ubutwari bukomeye bwo kwitangira abandi bahutu victimes kuko bemeje kumugaragaro ko habayeho genocide hutu yakozwe na gouvernement bari barimo.
Nk'uko rero byagenze Arusha aho Kambanda nka Premier Ministre yemeye genocide tutsi bikaba ihame, na Premier Ministre Twagiramungu Faustin n'abaminisitiri be bemeye genocide hutu kumugaragaro kurusha Kambanda kuburyo nabyo bibaye ihame ntawe ushobora kubihindura. Amateka mashyaka ariyanditse, abanyarwanda n'abatuye isi bose babyubahirize"/Par Rutayisire Boniface.

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On Friday, March 21, 2014 4:09 PM, Sedeki Luc <lucsedeki@yahoo.fr> wrote:

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Date: vendredi 21 mars 2014 14:41:51 UTC
Subject: *DHR* GOUVERNEMENT YAYOBOWE NA TWAGIRAMUNGU F. YEMEJE GENOCIDE HUTU: ABAHIYAKANA N'ABAYIPFOBYA NONEHO BARAJYAHE ???? MARCEL HAGUMA AKORANA N'ABABIRIGI BA KAGAME MUKUDINDIZA OPPOSITION NYARWANDAFw: Ni nde watumye Marcel Haguma gusebya Gasana Anastase?

ITANGAZO: ABAPFOBYA GENOCIDE HUTU BAZONGERA KUBIHERA HE KO GOUVERNEMENT Y'U RWANDA YAYOBOWE NA TWAGIRAMUNGU FAUSTIN YEMEJE GENOCIDE HUTU KUMUGARAGARO. MARCEL HAGUMA ARASABWA KUVA MUBANYARWANDA BARYA RUSWA Y'ABABIRIGI BAMWE NA FPR KUGIRANGO BAPFOBYE GENOCIDE HUTU.

Mumakuru yizewe neza twabonye, aremeza neza ko Marcel Haguma ari gatumwa k'ababirigi bakorera FPR kugirango bazirike opposition nyarwanda ye gutera imbere. Impamvu Marcel yitamitse Gasana Anastase, amakuru ariho aremeza ko ari ukubera ko Gasana Anastase yaje ashyira genocide hutu imbere kandi bizwi ko uvuye mubutegetsi bwa leta ya FPR kuburyo byabangamiye cyane ndetse bisenya imigambi myinshi y'abo babirigi na FPR n'ambassade y'u Rwanda bose bashyira hamwe bagakorera lobby Kagame.
Marcel Haguma kugirango abone uko ajomba ibikwasi Gasana Anastase, Marcel yaje yigaragaza nk'umuntu ushyigikiye Twagiramungu Faustin mubya FDLR kuko yabonaga ko utavugaga rumwe na Twagiramungu Faustin kuri icyo kibazo. Ikindi kigaragara n'uko Marcel Haguma n'abandi bafatanya muri uwo mugambi batangiye kujomba ibikwasi Gasana Anastase igihe bari batangiye kubona ko akataje mugusobanuro genocide hutu kumbuga no kumaradiyo. Ntabwo abamwanjamye babikoze mbere atarashinga ishyaka cyangwa akimara kurishinga. Ahubwo abamwanjamye babikoze igihe babonaga Gasana atangiye kubangamira imigambi yabo yo kurya ibya Kagame n'abazungu akoresha. Iyo Gasana Anastase ashinga ishyaka agaceceka ntavuge cyane genocide hutu, kuri ubu ntacyo yari bube apfa na Marcel. Marcel ibyo akora si kugiti cye ahubwo aratumwa.

Andi makuru aravugako muri iyi minsi ngo Marcel yabaye umushomeri kuberako Twagiramungu Faustin yatangaje ko yemera genocide hutu kandi Marcel Haguma yaregeraga Twagiramungu Faustin yitwaje iyo genocide hutu Gasana avuga naho Twagiramungu akaba atarayivugaga nka Gasana.

Marcel Haguma ahubwo uwashaka yamubaza ngo apfa iki n'abahutu kuki ahakana ndetse akapfobya genocide hutu ? Kuki Marcel Haguma ahinduka intumwa ya FPR n'ababirigi badashaka kuvuga genocide hutu ? Ese iyo posiition ye azayishobora muri iyi minsi kandi opposition yose yariyemeje kuvuga genocide hutu ?
Turifuza ko Marcel Haguma yajya kukarubanda akadusobanurira impamvu ari igikoresho cy'abadashaka kuvuga genocide hutu kuburyo yiha n'uburenganzira bwo kurenganya abavuga genocide hutu nka Gasana Anastase.
Turasaba n'abashyira mugaciro bose gutinyuka bakabaza Marcel Haguma ndetse bakamucyaha kugeza ahindutse kuko amakuru dufite avuga ko Marcel Haguma amaze igihe adindiza opposition nyarwanda yose yitwaje izo contact na za menaces azana kuri ba opposant no mumashyaka amwe n'amawe yitwaje ngo yumvise amakuru aya n'aya. Iyo technique rero irashaje kandi turasaba buri wese kuyamagana.
Nk'uko abanyarwanda bose babona ko opposition irimo ishyira hamwe, turifuza ko abanyarwanda ubwabo bahandura ibintu byose byabayeho bibadindiza.

Genocide hutu igomba kuvugwa kuko noneho Premier Ministre wayoboye gouvernement yayikoze ariwe Twagiramungu yemera iyo genocide hutu (voir interview Ikondera). Ndetse sinawe wenyine uyemera ahubwo gouvernement ye yose irayemera. Ministre Gasana Anastase wabaye muinisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga akaba n'ambassadeur muri ONU yemera iyo genocide hutu ndetse yaranabitangaje arangije abishyira no mumahame y'ishyaka rye kugirango hatazagira igihindukaho

Ministiri w'ingabo Habyarimana Emmanuel yemera ko ingabo yari ayoboye za FPR zakoze genocide hutu.
Minisitiri w'umutekano Rwaka Théobald yemera genocide hutu. Minisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga Ndagijimana JMV yemera genocide hutu, etc.
Muri make abahutu bakoranye na FPR bose bagaragaje ubutwari bukomeye bwo kwitangira abandi bahutu victimes kuko bemeje kumugaragaro ko habayeho genocide hutu yakozwe na gouvernement bari barimo.
Nk'uko rero byagenze Arusha aho Kambanda nka Premier Ministre yemeye genocide tutsi bikaba ihame, na Premier Ministre Twagiramungu Faustin n'abaminisitiri be bemeye genocide hutu kumugaragaro kurusha Kambanda kuburyo nabyo bibaye ihame ntawe ushobora kubihindura. Amateka mashyaka ariyanditse, abanyarwanda n'abatuye isi bose babyubahirize.

Ababayeho badindiza abanyarwanda bababuza kuvuga genocide hutu noneho barihisha he ko gouvernement yakoze iyo genocide hutu ibyemeje kumugaragaro. Ngaho nihagire utinyuka yongere ahigime ngo genocide hutu bazayemezwa n'inkiko cyangwa ONU !!!!!
Rwose ba Nyakubahwa mwakoranye na FPR mukaba mumaze kwemeza ho habayeho genocide hutu, twebwe nk'abavictimes bahagarariye n'abandi bavictimes turagirango tubashimire ubwo butwari n'ubwitange mugaragaje mumateka y'u Rwanda. Kwemera mukitanga mukemeza ko FPR yari ifatanije namwe muri gouvernement yakoze genocide hutu ni ubutwari bukomeye. Iyaba byakundaga ngo abanyarwanda batunge agafoto kanyu muri kumwe byaba ari ibintu byiza cyane kuko mwanditse amateka azahoraho igihe cyose uRwanda ruzabaho. Abahakana genocide hutu bose cyangwa ababayeho bayipfobya bayivuga mubindi bigambo bazabaho ari urukozasoni imyaka yose u Rwanda ruzabaho.
Twebwe tuzakomeza intambara yacu yo guhangana n'abazabaho babuza abanyarwanda kuyivuga kuko noneho gouvernement yose irabyiyemereje. Buri wese yibuke ko ONU idategeka leta iyo ariyo yose ku isi kuko leta irigenga. Leta nyarwanda rero igihe yemeje ibyabaye muri iyo leta ONU ntifite kubihindura igihe binyuranyije n'ukuri hamwe n'ugushaka kw'abaturagihugu. Turasaba ONU kubahiriza iri hame kandi igatinyuka ikemera kumugaragaro ko mu Rwanda no muri Congo habaye genocide hutu. Biriya bigambo byakoreshejwe muri Mapping Report ntitubishaka ntabwo bikijyanye n'igihe.
Bitangarijwe i Bruxelles tariki ya 21/03/2014

RUTAYISIRE Boniface
President w'Ishyaka Banyarwanda akaba na President w'association y''abavictimes hutu tutsi n'abandi TUBEHO TWESE
Tel (32) 488250305

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