"Naho Ouattara, Radio runwa ivuga ko ari umuhungu bwite wa Houphouet"
Komera El Hadj INCHALAH,
Radio runwa yarakubeshye ntabwo Ouattara ari umuhungu wa Houphouet.
Radio runwa yitinyiranyije Ouattara na HENRI KONAN BEDIE (président
wa Côte d'Ivoire kuva muri 1993 kugeza muri 1999) wasimbuye HOUPHOUET BOIGNY.
Ibyo Cyprien Munyensanga yakubwiye nibyo byo. Ivoirité yazanywe na Bédié.
BAGBO nawe yayigenderagaho ariko siwe wayivumbuye. Abo ba Ivoiriens bakubwiye
ko Ouattara ari umuhungu wa Houphouet bakubeshye nkana.
El Hadj, ibi nkubwiye gewe nabyumviye muri Côte d'Ivoire nyirizina, kuko muri iriya
myaka ya za 90 nakunda kujyayo mu rwego rw'akazi nkamarayo igihe.
Komera Hadj!
Christophe.
To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
From: inchalah15@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 09:14:54 +0100
Subject: Re: *DHR* Afurika izira abategetsi bayo.
"Ikibazo gusa nuko abategetsi bacu ubona batabizi,batanazi ibyo bakwiye gukora, ahubwo ugasanga bigize akaraha najyahe, bakigira nk'inkoko iteteza itazi ko agaca kayubikiriye hejuru mu giti. Amateka nta somo atanga ku bategetsi ba Afurika"
INCHALAH,
ibi byo guhora twijudnitse abategetsi bacu, niryo kosa rikomeye abanyafurika dukora (ngira ngo kubera ko tuba tutazi/tutabona/tutumva uko politiki ikorwa!!!). Ikibazo nyamukuru, ntabwo ari abategetsi b'afurika, ni abanyafurika ubwabo. Ingero:
1. Ubwo Sarkozy yatangiraga gutuka Kadhafi, amwita umudigitateri, abanyafurika benshi babisamiye hejuru, maze batiza umurindi Ubufaransa na OTAN mu gushwanyaguza Libiya (wongeyeho un petit groupe de libyens bagizwe ibikoresho na ba runyunyuzi!!!).
2. Muri Côte d'Ivoire, ubwo abafaransa babeshyeraga Laurent Gbagbo ko yibye amatora, ko ari umudigitateri watsinzwe amatora akanga kuva ku butegetsi, abanyafurika benshi babisamiye hejuru (ibyakurikiye urabizi, sinirirwa mbitindaho!!!)
3. Muri Mali, naho abafaransa bashatse urwitwazo. Kuba barimo kubombarda tout ce qui bouge, bica abaturage urubozo, ariko ntibivugwe, ntacyo bibwiye abanyafurika benshi.
Igihe cyose rero tuzaba twitana bamwana, nta kizabuza amarorerwa nk'aya kubaho (haba mu Rwanda, Kongo, Sudani, Somaliya, n'ahandi hose muri Afurika!!!).
Ikindi, mpamya ko hari ubwo abategetsi b'Afurika baba babona uyu mukino wa ba runyunyuzi, ariko bakabura uko bagira, kuko abaturage basamira hejuru propagandes za médias za ba runyunyuzi (BBC, RFI, VOA, etc.), bakarwanya abategetsi babo batazi ko barimo kwicukurira umwobo!!!
Urumva rero ko ibintu atari si simple que ça!!!
Icyumweru cyiza.
Ngabo
P.S.: kuki wanyandikiye en privé? Ibi wanyandikiye n'ibyo ngusubije iyi binyura kuri DHR sibwo byari kuba ari byiza?
----- Original Nachricht ----
Von: INCHALAH EL HAJI <inchalah15@yahoo.com>
An: "ngabo@arcor.de" <ngabo@arcor.de>
Datum: 02.06.2013 01:06
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
>
> "ibyabaye mu Rwanda ntabwo byatunguranye. Ari abanyamerika, ari abafaransa,
> ari ababiligi, ari abaholandi, ari abadage, n'ibindi bihugu byose
> by'ibihangage kuri iyi si, bose bari bazi ibirimo kubera mu Rwanda, kandi
> babona iyo byerekeza (ibyo batakoze, ni uko bitari bijyanye n'inyungu
> zabo!!!).
> Ndibuka ko muri BUFMAR, abaholandi bahahunitse ibikarito by'imfashanyo muri
> 1994, byari byanditseho "Grand Project 1993"! (kuki batanditse 1994? Ibyo
> ari byo byose ntabwo ari "erreur de frappe" - abanditse 1993 nibo bazi
> impamvu bayanditse! Ni ibanga ryabo)." Ngabo
>
> Ngabo ibyo uvuga birimo ukuri. Naho ubundi twe (abanyafurika)tuvuga byo
> kwivugira,ducuranga urunwa(bamwe bibonamo ubwoko bwabo, abandi bibonamo
> uturere) naho bene Madame bararangije gahunda yabo cyera! Ibyo abo ba
> Runyunyuzi bavuga, bakora, biba biri muri gahunda yabo yateguwe kera!
> Ikibazo gusa nuko abategetsi bacu ubona batabizi,batanazi ibyo bakwiye
> gukora, ahubwo ugasanga bigize akaraha najyahe, bakigira nk'inkoko iteteza
> itazi ko agaca kayubikiriye hejuru mu giti. Amateka nta somo atanga ku
> bategetsi ba Afurika(ariko by'umwihariko b'u Rwanda)! Niyo mpamvu
> itavazavayo(rutazavayo).
>
>
> ________________________________
> De : "ngabo@arcor.de" <ngabo@arcor.de>
> À : inchalah15@yahoo.com; democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr
> Cc : rwanda-l@yahoogroups.com
> Envoyé le : Samedi 1 juin 2013 22h36
> Objet : Aw: Re: US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
>
>
> INCHALAH,
>
> ibyabaye mu Rwanda ntabwo byatunguranye. Ari abanyamerika, ari abafaransa,
> ari ababiligi, ari abaholandi, ari abadage, n'ibindi bihugu byose
> by'ibihangage kuri iyi si, bose bari bazi ibirimo kubera mu Rwanda, kandi
> babona iyo byerekeza (ibyo batakoze, ni uko bitari bijyanye n'inyungu
> zabo!!!).
>
> Ndibuka ko muri BUFMAR, abaholandi bahahunitse ibikarito by'imfashanyo muri
> 1994, byari byanditseho "Grand Project 1993"! (kuki batanditse 1994? Ibyo
> ari byo byose ntabwo ari "erreur de frappe" - abanditse 1993 nibo bazi
> impamvu bayanditse! Ni ibanga ryabo).
>
> Ngabo
>
> P.S.: Ibyabaye byarabaye! Ikibabaje gusa, ni uko usanga abanyarwanda benshi
> nta somo bakuyemo!!!
>
> ----- Original Nachricht ----
> Von: INCHALAH EL HAJI <inchalah15@yahoo.com>
> An: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr"
> <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
> Datum: 01.06.2013 20:43
> Betreff: Re: *DHR* US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
>
> >
> > Nyabuneka nimudukopeze!
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > De : Democracy&Human Rights <itwagira@yahoo.fr>
> > À : - - Africadailly <africadaily3@yahoogroups.com>; - Africaforum
> > <Africaforum@yahoogroupes.fr>; DEBOUTCONGOLAIS
> > <debout_congolais1-proprietaire@yahoogroupes.fr>; - DHR
> > <democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; - - Forum Banyarwanda
> > <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>; - Great Lakkes
> > <great-lakes@yahoogroups.com>; - NewsKgl-Bxl
> <NewsKGL-BXL@yahoogroupes.fr>;
> > - Rwanda-l <rwanda-l@yahoogroups.com>; - Rwandanet
> > <rwandanet@yahoogroups.com>; - URWANDA RWACU
> > <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>; - Congo <congo@yahoogroupes.fr>; Congo
> > <congokin-tribune@yahoogroupes.fr>
> > Envoyé le : Samedi 1 juin 2013 20h13
> > Objet : *DHR* US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/mar/31/usa.rwanda
> > US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide
> > Classified papers show Clinton was aware of 'final solution' to eliminate
> > Tutsis
> > The Guardian, Wednesday 31 March 2004 16.59 BST
> > President Bill Clinton's administration knew Rwanda was being engulfed by
> > genocide in April 1994 but buried the information to justify its inaction,
> > according to classified documents made available for the first time.
> > Senior officials privately used the word genocide within 16 days of the
> > start of the killings, but chose not to do so publicly because the
> president
> > had already decided not to intervene.
> > Intelligence reports obtained using the US Freedom of Information Act show
> > the cabinet and almost certainly the president had been told of a planned
> > "final solution to eliminate all Tutsis" before the slaughter reached its
> > peak.
> > It took Hutu death squads three months from April 6 to murder an estimated
> > 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus and at each stage accurate, detailed
> > reports were reaching Washington's top policymakers.
> > The documents undermine claims by Mr Clinton and his senior officials that
> > they did not fully appreciate the scale and speed of the killings.
> > "It's powerful proof that they knew," said Alison des Forges, a Human
> Rights
> > Watch researcher and authority on the genocide.
> > The National Security Archive, an independent non-governmental research
> > institute based in Washington DC, went to court to obtain the material.
> > It discovered that the CIA's national intelligence daily, a secret
> briefing
> > circulated to Mr Clinton, the then vice-president, Al Gore, and hundreds
> of
> > senior officials, included almost daily reports on Rwanda. One, dated
> April
> > 23, said rebels would continue fighting to "stop the genocide, which ...
> is
> > spreading south".
> > Three days later the state department's intelligence briefing for former
> > secretary of state Warren Christopher and other officials noted "genocide
> > and partition" and reported declarations of a "final solution to eliminate
> > all Tutsis".
> > However, the administration did not publicly use the word genocide until
> May
> > 25 and even then diluted its impact by saying "acts of genocide".
> > Ms Des Forges said: "They feared this word would generate public opinion
> > which would demand some sort of action and they didn't want to act. It was
> a
> > very pragmatic determination."
> > The administration did not want to repeat the fiasco of US intervention in
> > Somalia, where US troops became sucked into fighting. It also felt the US
> > had no interests in Rwanda, a small central African country with no
> minerals
> > or strategic value.
> > William Ferroggiaro, of the National Security Archive, said the system had
> > worked. "Diplomats, intelligence agencies, defence and military officials
> -
> > even aid workers - provided timely information up the chain," he said.
> > "That the Clinton administration decided against intervention at any level
> > was not for lack of knowledge of what was happening in Rwanda."
> > Many analysts and historians fault Washington and other western capitals
> not
> > just for failing to support the token force of overwhelmed UN peacekeepers
> > but for failing to speak out more forcefully during the slaughter.
> > Some of the Hutu extremists orchestrating events might have heeded such
> > warnings, they have suggested.
> > Mr Clinton has apologised for those failures but the declassified
> documents
> > undermine his defence of ignorance. "The level of US intelligence is
> really
> > amazing," said Mr Ferroggiaro. "A vast array of information was
> available."
> >
> > On a visit to the Rwandan capital, Kigali, in 1998 Mr Clinton apologised
> for
> > not acting quickly enough or immediately calling the crimes genocide.
> > In what was widely seen as an attempt to diminish his responsibility, he
> > said: "It may seem strange to you here, especially the many of you who
> lost
> > members of your family, but all over the world there were people like me
> > sitting in offices, day after day after day, who did not fully appreciate
> > the depth and speed with which you were being engulfed by this
> unimaginable
> > terror."
> > A spokesperson for the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation in New York
> said
> > the allegations would be relayed to the former president.
> >
> > UT UNUM SINT
> >
> > Maître Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU, DHR FOUNDER&OWNER
> > http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/democracy_human_rights
> >
> >
> > " BE NICE TO PEOPLE ON YOUR WAY UP, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT MEET THEM ON YOUR
> WAY
> > DOWN." Jimmy DURANTE.
> >
> > COMBATTONS la haine SANS complaisance, PARTOUT et avec Toute ENERGIE!!!!!!
> > Let's rather prefer P.L.H.L ,Peace, Love , Hope and Life, and get
> together
> > as one!!!
> > Inno TWAGIRA
> >
Komera El Hadj INCHALAH,
Radio runwa yarakubeshye ntabwo Ouattara ari umuhungu wa Houphouet.
Radio runwa yitinyiranyije Ouattara na HENRI KONAN BEDIE (président
wa Côte d'Ivoire kuva muri 1993 kugeza muri 1999) wasimbuye HOUPHOUET BOIGNY.
Ibyo Cyprien Munyensanga yakubwiye nibyo byo. Ivoirité yazanywe na Bédié.
BAGBO nawe yayigenderagaho ariko siwe wayivumbuye. Abo ba Ivoiriens bakubwiye
ko Ouattara ari umuhungu wa Houphouet bakubeshye nkana.
El Hadj, ibi nkubwiye gewe nabyumviye muri Côte d'Ivoire nyirizina, kuko muri iriya
myaka ya za 90 nakunda kujyayo mu rwego rw'akazi nkamarayo igihe.
Komera Hadj!
Christophe.
To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
From: inchalah15@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 09:14:54 +0100
Subject: Re: *DHR* Afurika izira abategetsi bayo.
"...Kuko ngirango uziko Ouattara yize muri America, agatangira akazi muri FMI, agakora muri Banque Centrale des États d'Afrique de l'Ouest, aho hose ari umu « citoyen voltaïque » (actuellement « burkinabé ») Umubingwa rero sinzi uko yeje kwiyubururiramo umu « ivoirien » mu bintu bidasobanutse, ni uko ibibazo bitangira bityo!"
C.M
Urakoze kunyunganira. Jye kugeza ubu narinzi ko concept ya "Ivoirité" ari iya Bagbo. Merci mingi.
Naho Ouattara, Radio runwa ivuga ko ari umuhungu bwite wa Houphouet. Ikaba ari nayo mpamvu yamukundaga cyane, ndetse anamugira son 1er Ministre, amwiyegereza kugirango azamusimbure. Ngo kuba yarabaye umu Voltaïque byatewe nuko Houphouet yari amuntu ushaka kwerekana ko yari intungange imbere ya Kliziya Gatolika yari abereye umuyoboke(akanga kugaragaza ko afite abagore benshi). Houphouet yubaka iriya Basilique(yasize urwobo rukabije mu ngengo y'imari y'igihugu)ngo yashakaga ko Kiliziya Gatolika, izamwandika mu batagatifu. Erega nta mu Prezida muzima Afurika yigeze igira! Urumva ko nawe yashyize inyungu ze n'umuryango we, imbere y'izigihugu cye.
Ibyo nabibwiwe n'aba Ivoiriens ubwabo. Niba aribyo simbizi, niba ataribyo nabwo simbizi kuko nta bushakashatsi nabikozeho.
De : Cyprien Munyensanga <munyensanga@yahoo.fr>
À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé le : Dimanche 2 juin 2013 21h37
Objet : Re: *DHR* Afurika izira abategetsi bayo.
À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé le : Dimanche 2 juin 2013 21h37
Objet : Re: *DHR* Afurika izira abategetsi bayo.
Bwana El Hadj,
Uragira uti :
« Bagbo wa CI, nawe yazize cyane cyane politiki ye icuramye yise "Ivoirité". Ikindi yihaye guhangana n'abafransa! Umuntu wize amateka we n'umugore we koko ntabwo yarazi ububi bwabo? Yibagiwe ko amabya manini y'impfizi y'imbeba adakanga akana k'injagwe! Iyo acisha make nubu aba ategeka. »
Ntabwo Laurent Gbagbo ari we wazanye « ivoirité » muri Côte d'Ivoire. Iyo « concept » yazanywe ahubwo na l'ex-Président Henri Konan Bédié, ubwo yahanganaga na Alassane Ouattara wari Ministre w'intebe, bombi bahatanira gusimbura Félix Houphouet-Boigny wari umaze gusezera kw'isi!
Bédié yanabyanditse mu gitabo cye cyitwa « Les chemins de ma vie » (Plon, 1999)
Kuko ngirango uziko Ouattara yize muri America, agatangira akazi muri FMI, agakora muri Banque Centrale des États d'Afrique de l'Ouest, aho hose ari umu « citoyen voltaïque » (actuellement « burkinabé ») Umubingwa rero sinzi uko yeje kwiyubururiramo umu « ivoirien » mu bintu bidasobanutse, ni uko ibibazo bitangira bityo!
Nyakugorwa Laurent Gbagbo ntaho ahuriye n'ibyo bintu! Gbagbo n'a jamais été « ivoiritaire »!!!
Cyakora nemeranya nawe ku yindi ngingo y'uko nawe atarebye kure, mu bijyanye n'imibanire ye n'abafaransa!
Biriya bihugu, « les Pères Fossoyeurs » (ba Houphouet-Boigny n'abandi), ubukungu bwabo hafi ya bwose babushyize mu maboko y'ama sosiyete y'abafaransa (café, cacao, cotton, ports,…) ku buryo kubibakura mu kanywa ari nko guhangana n'ingona (crocodile) yasingiriye isha mu mazi!!! Umwe muri mwembi agomba kuhasiga agatwe!
Na biriya ubona bamwe mu bafaransa birirwa bavuga ku Rwanda, ni uko nta gatubutse twagiraga! Kuri bo rero, ntibumva impamvu yo kujya kwijandika cyane mu bibazo by'agahugu ka Afurika nk'u Rwanda, katagira n'itako rifatika umuntu yafataho!
Ari ikindi gihugu gikungahaye, l'histoire serait toute autre!
C. M.
De : INCHALAH EL HAJI <inchalah15@yahoo.com>
À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé le : Dimanche 2 juin 2013 11h40
Objet : *DHR* Afurika izira abategetsi bayo.
À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé le : Dimanche 2 juin 2013 11h40
Objet : *DHR* Afurika izira abategetsi bayo.
Ngabo, nyamara ibyo nakubwiye ko Afurika nibihugu byayo byinshi bizira abategetsi bayo ni ukuri. Nka Kadhafi nubwo yakundaga Afurika ariko yarizize kuko atarashaka kw'iyuzuza na ba Runyunyuzi ntacyo yari abaye. Ikindi nawe yari yarafashwe na ya ndwara ifata abategetsi bibihugu byinshi bya Afurika, "folie de grandeur"ituma bagundira ubutegetsi mpaka babaciye ibikonjo.
Bagbo wa CI, nawe yazize cyane cyane politiki ye icuramye yise "Ivoirité". Ikindi yihaye guhangana n'abafransa! Umuntu wize amateka we n'umugore we koko ntabwo yarazi ububi bwabo? Yibagiwe ko amabya manini y'impfizi y'imbeba adakanga akana k'injagwe! Iyo acisha make nubu aba ategeka.
ATT wo muri Mali we yazize ko ariwe Prezida w'Afurika wenyine wamaganye kumugaragaro urugomo rukojeje isoni rwakorewe Lybiya. Amateka azabimuhembera, kandi nkeka ko abanya Mali bamaze kubona ko ibyo yavugaga byaribyo!
Naho abaturage babanyafurika bo nkeka ko ubarenganya! Ibihugu bireka umuturage akagira ijambo ni bingahe muri Afurika? Ntinya kuguha ingero zo mu Rwanda kuko nzi ko zigutera ubwoba. Ariko reka nguhe urugero rumwe rworoshye. Ubwami bwakoze uburyo bwa cyami, ariko Kayibanda(naMDR-Parmehutu ye) ntacyo yahinduye cyane. Iyo abishaka we n'izindi mpirimbanyi baba barashyizeho Itegeko-nshinga abazamukurikira bazubahiriza.Kayibanda iyo abishaka, niwe uba yararangije ikibazo cy'amoko mu Rwanda. Kinani nawe aje na MRND ye ntibigeze batekereza kuricyo kintu. Kagame nawe aje biba uko,ndetse we ashyiraho nakarusho ko kubogeka! Kandi noneho ngo aranashaka guhindura nawe Itegeko-nshinga nkuko abo yasimbuye babigenje, kandi bose ntibyabahiriye.
None se Ngabo, uyobewe ko muri Afurika hategeka umuntu umwe n'umuryango we? Ni gute amakosa y'umutegetsi(abategetsi) yakwitirirwa abaturage? Ubu ibyo Kabila akora koko natinyuka nkabishyira ku banyekongo bose? Art.15 yashyizweho nande? Si Mobutu? Ngabo ungera usubize amaso inyuma urasanga Afurika izira abategetsi bayo.
----- Mail transféré -----
De : "ngabo@arcor.de" <ngabo@arcor.de>
À : inchalah15@yahoo.com
Envoyé le : Dimanche 2 juin 2013 13h48
Objet : Aw: Re: US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
De : "ngabo@arcor.de" <ngabo@arcor.de>
À : inchalah15@yahoo.com
Envoyé le : Dimanche 2 juin 2013 13h48
Objet : Aw: Re: US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
"Ikibazo gusa nuko abategetsi bacu ubona batabizi,batanazi ibyo bakwiye gukora, ahubwo ugasanga bigize akaraha najyahe, bakigira nk'inkoko iteteza itazi ko agaca kayubikiriye hejuru mu giti. Amateka nta somo atanga ku bategetsi ba Afurika"
INCHALAH,
ibi byo guhora twijudnitse abategetsi bacu, niryo kosa rikomeye abanyafurika dukora (ngira ngo kubera ko tuba tutazi/tutabona/tutumva uko politiki ikorwa!!!). Ikibazo nyamukuru, ntabwo ari abategetsi b'afurika, ni abanyafurika ubwabo. Ingero:
1. Ubwo Sarkozy yatangiraga gutuka Kadhafi, amwita umudigitateri, abanyafurika benshi babisamiye hejuru, maze batiza umurindi Ubufaransa na OTAN mu gushwanyaguza Libiya (wongeyeho un petit groupe de libyens bagizwe ibikoresho na ba runyunyuzi!!!).
2. Muri Côte d'Ivoire, ubwo abafaransa babeshyeraga Laurent Gbagbo ko yibye amatora, ko ari umudigitateri watsinzwe amatora akanga kuva ku butegetsi, abanyafurika benshi babisamiye hejuru (ibyakurikiye urabizi, sinirirwa mbitindaho!!!)
3. Muri Mali, naho abafaransa bashatse urwitwazo. Kuba barimo kubombarda tout ce qui bouge, bica abaturage urubozo, ariko ntibivugwe, ntacyo bibwiye abanyafurika benshi.
Igihe cyose rero tuzaba twitana bamwana, nta kizabuza amarorerwa nk'aya kubaho (haba mu Rwanda, Kongo, Sudani, Somaliya, n'ahandi hose muri Afurika!!!).
Ikindi, mpamya ko hari ubwo abategetsi b'Afurika baba babona uyu mukino wa ba runyunyuzi, ariko bakabura uko bagira, kuko abaturage basamira hejuru propagandes za médias za ba runyunyuzi (BBC, RFI, VOA, etc.), bakarwanya abategetsi babo batazi ko barimo kwicukurira umwobo!!!
Urumva rero ko ibintu atari si simple que ça!!!
Icyumweru cyiza.
Ngabo
P.S.: kuki wanyandikiye en privé? Ibi wanyandikiye n'ibyo ngusubije iyi binyura kuri DHR sibwo byari kuba ari byiza?
----- Original Nachricht ----
Von: INCHALAH EL HAJI <inchalah15@yahoo.com>
An: "ngabo@arcor.de" <ngabo@arcor.de>
Datum: 02.06.2013 01:06
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
>
> "ibyabaye mu Rwanda ntabwo byatunguranye. Ari abanyamerika, ari abafaransa,
> ari ababiligi, ari abaholandi, ari abadage, n'ibindi bihugu byose
> by'ibihangage kuri iyi si, bose bari bazi ibirimo kubera mu Rwanda, kandi
> babona iyo byerekeza (ibyo batakoze, ni uko bitari bijyanye n'inyungu
> zabo!!!).
> Ndibuka ko muri BUFMAR, abaholandi bahahunitse ibikarito by'imfashanyo muri
> 1994, byari byanditseho "Grand Project 1993"! (kuki batanditse 1994? Ibyo
> ari byo byose ntabwo ari "erreur de frappe" - abanditse 1993 nibo bazi
> impamvu bayanditse! Ni ibanga ryabo)." Ngabo
>
> Ngabo ibyo uvuga birimo ukuri. Naho ubundi twe (abanyafurika)tuvuga byo
> kwivugira,ducuranga urunwa(bamwe bibonamo ubwoko bwabo, abandi bibonamo
> uturere) naho bene Madame bararangije gahunda yabo cyera! Ibyo abo ba
> Runyunyuzi bavuga, bakora, biba biri muri gahunda yabo yateguwe kera!
> Ikibazo gusa nuko abategetsi bacu ubona batabizi,batanazi ibyo bakwiye
> gukora, ahubwo ugasanga bigize akaraha najyahe, bakigira nk'inkoko iteteza
> itazi ko agaca kayubikiriye hejuru mu giti. Amateka nta somo atanga ku
> bategetsi ba Afurika(ariko by'umwihariko b'u Rwanda)! Niyo mpamvu
> itavazavayo(rutazavayo).
>
>
> ________________________________
> De : "ngabo@arcor.de" <ngabo@arcor.de>
> À : inchalah15@yahoo.com; democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr
> Cc : rwanda-l@yahoogroups.com
> Envoyé le : Samedi 1 juin 2013 22h36
> Objet : Aw: Re: US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
>
>
> INCHALAH,
>
> ibyabaye mu Rwanda ntabwo byatunguranye. Ari abanyamerika, ari abafaransa,
> ari ababiligi, ari abaholandi, ari abadage, n'ibindi bihugu byose
> by'ibihangage kuri iyi si, bose bari bazi ibirimo kubera mu Rwanda, kandi
> babona iyo byerekeza (ibyo batakoze, ni uko bitari bijyanye n'inyungu
> zabo!!!).
>
> Ndibuka ko muri BUFMAR, abaholandi bahahunitse ibikarito by'imfashanyo muri
> 1994, byari byanditseho "Grand Project 1993"! (kuki batanditse 1994? Ibyo
> ari byo byose ntabwo ari "erreur de frappe" - abanditse 1993 nibo bazi
> impamvu bayanditse! Ni ibanga ryabo).
>
> Ngabo
>
> P.S.: Ibyabaye byarabaye! Ikibabaje gusa, ni uko usanga abanyarwanda benshi
> nta somo bakuyemo!!!
>
> ----- Original Nachricht ----
> Von: INCHALAH EL HAJI <inchalah15@yahoo.com>
> An: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr"
> <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
> Datum: 01.06.2013 20:43
> Betreff: Re: *DHR* US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
>
> >
> > Nyabuneka nimudukopeze!
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > De : Democracy&Human Rights <itwagira@yahoo.fr>
> > À : - - Africadailly <africadaily3@yahoogroups.com>; - Africaforum
> > <Africaforum@yahoogroupes.fr>; DEBOUTCONGOLAIS
> > <debout_congolais1-proprietaire@yahoogroupes.fr>; - DHR
> > <democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; - - Forum Banyarwanda
> > <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>; - Great Lakkes
> > <great-lakes@yahoogroups.com>; - NewsKgl-Bxl
> <NewsKGL-BXL@yahoogroupes.fr>;
> > - Rwanda-l <rwanda-l@yahoogroups.com>; - Rwandanet
> > <rwandanet@yahoogroups.com>; - URWANDA RWACU
> > <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>; - Congo <congo@yahoogroupes.fr>; Congo
> > <congokin-tribune@yahoogroupes.fr>
> > Envoyé le : Samedi 1 juin 2013 20h13
> > Objet : *DHR* US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide (The Guardian)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/mar/31/usa.rwanda
> > US chose to ignore Rwandan genocide
> > Classified papers show Clinton was aware of 'final solution' to eliminate
> > Tutsis
> > The Guardian, Wednesday 31 March 2004 16.59 BST
> > President Bill Clinton's administration knew Rwanda was being engulfed by
> > genocide in April 1994 but buried the information to justify its inaction,
> > according to classified documents made available for the first time.
> > Senior officials privately used the word genocide within 16 days of the
> > start of the killings, but chose not to do so publicly because the
> president
> > had already decided not to intervene.
> > Intelligence reports obtained using the US Freedom of Information Act show
> > the cabinet and almost certainly the president had been told of a planned
> > "final solution to eliminate all Tutsis" before the slaughter reached its
> > peak.
> > It took Hutu death squads three months from April 6 to murder an estimated
> > 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus and at each stage accurate, detailed
> > reports were reaching Washington's top policymakers.
> > The documents undermine claims by Mr Clinton and his senior officials that
> > they did not fully appreciate the scale and speed of the killings.
> > "It's powerful proof that they knew," said Alison des Forges, a Human
> Rights
> > Watch researcher and authority on the genocide.
> > The National Security Archive, an independent non-governmental research
> > institute based in Washington DC, went to court to obtain the material.
> > It discovered that the CIA's national intelligence daily, a secret
> briefing
> > circulated to Mr Clinton, the then vice-president, Al Gore, and hundreds
> of
> > senior officials, included almost daily reports on Rwanda. One, dated
> April
> > 23, said rebels would continue fighting to "stop the genocide, which ...
> is
> > spreading south".
> > Three days later the state department's intelligence briefing for former
> > secretary of state Warren Christopher and other officials noted "genocide
> > and partition" and reported declarations of a "final solution to eliminate
> > all Tutsis".
> > However, the administration did not publicly use the word genocide until
> May
> > 25 and even then diluted its impact by saying "acts of genocide".
> > Ms Des Forges said: "They feared this word would generate public opinion
> > which would demand some sort of action and they didn't want to act. It was
> a
> > very pragmatic determination."
> > The administration did not want to repeat the fiasco of US intervention in
> > Somalia, where US troops became sucked into fighting. It also felt the US
> > had no interests in Rwanda, a small central African country with no
> minerals
> > or strategic value.
> > William Ferroggiaro, of the National Security Archive, said the system had
> > worked. "Diplomats, intelligence agencies, defence and military officials
> -
> > even aid workers - provided timely information up the chain," he said.
> > "That the Clinton administration decided against intervention at any level
> > was not for lack of knowledge of what was happening in Rwanda."
> > Many analysts and historians fault Washington and other western capitals
> not
> > just for failing to support the token force of overwhelmed UN peacekeepers
> > but for failing to speak out more forcefully during the slaughter.
> > Some of the Hutu extremists orchestrating events might have heeded such
> > warnings, they have suggested.
> > Mr Clinton has apologised for those failures but the declassified
> documents
> > undermine his defence of ignorance. "The level of US intelligence is
> really
> > amazing," said Mr Ferroggiaro. "A vast array of information was
> available."
> >
> > On a visit to the Rwandan capital, Kigali, in 1998 Mr Clinton apologised
> for
> > not acting quickly enough or immediately calling the crimes genocide.
> > In what was widely seen as an attempt to diminish his responsibility, he
> > said: "It may seem strange to you here, especially the many of you who
> lost
> > members of your family, but all over the world there were people like me
> > sitting in offices, day after day after day, who did not fully appreciate
> > the depth and speed with which you were being engulfed by this
> unimaginable
> > terror."
> > A spokesperson for the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation in New York
> said
> > the allegations would be relayed to the former president.
> >
> > UT UNUM SINT
> >
> > Maître Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU, DHR FOUNDER&OWNER
> > http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/democracy_human_rights
> >
> >
> > " BE NICE TO PEOPLE ON YOUR WAY UP, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT MEET THEM ON YOUR
> WAY
> > DOWN." Jimmy DURANTE.
> >
> > COMBATTONS la haine SANS complaisance, PARTOUT et avec Toute ENERGIE!!!!!!
> > Let's rather prefer P.L.H.L ,Peace, Love , Hope and Life, and get
> together
> > as one!!!
> > Inno TWAGIRA
> >
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COMBATTONS la haine SANS complaisance, PARTOUT et avec Toute ENERGIE!!!!!!
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Maître Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU
DHR FOUNDER&OWNER
Tél.mobile: 0032- 495 48 29 21
UT UNUM SINT
"L'extrémisme dans la défense de la liberté n'est pas un vice; La modération dans la poursuite de la justice n'est pas une vertu".
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." (USA,Republican Convention 1964,Barry Morris Goldwater (1909-1998)).
"Le monde ne sera pas détruit par ceux qui font le mal mais par ceux qui regardent et refusent d'agir", Albert EINSTEIN.
Les messages publiés sur DHR n'engagent que la responsabilité de leurs auteurs.
CONSIDERATION, TOLERANCE, PATIENCE AND MUTUAL RESPECT towards the reinforcement of GOOD GOVERNANCE,DEMOCRACY and HUMAN RIGHTS in our states.
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" BE NICE TO PEOPLE ON YOUR WAY UP, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT MEET THEM ON YOUR WAY DOWN." Jimmy DURANTE.
COMBATTONS la haine SANS complaisance, PARTOUT et avec Toute ENERGIE!!!!!!
Let's rather prefer Peace, Love , Hope and Life, and get together as one!!! Inno TWAGIRA
.
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