JBM,
Ibyo uvuga ni ukuri. Ubijiji ni ugukora ibintu ukumva ko abandi ari ibicucu,batabibona, batazi icyo ugamije cyangwa se ko bagushyigikiye mu byo ukora.
From: Jean-Baptiste Mbera <jbmbera@yahoo.fr>
To: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; "uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:56
Subject: Re: [uRwanda_rwacu] Re: *DHR* Re : Video y'abanyarwanda basobanura uko birukanywe muri Tanzania
RPP-Imvura,
Nashatse kukwereka ko cessation clause ireba bariya bari kwirukanwa muri TZ ukurikije igihe bahungiye. Abo itareba ni abahunze mbere ya 59 na nyuma ya 98.
Ntabwo nigeze mvuga ngo kwirukana impunzi ku ngufu birakwiye, mu gihugu icyo aricyo cyose. Impunzi zikwiye gutaha ku neza.
Ariko rero nk'uko ubizi Leta ya FPR iyo isaba ngo ubuhunzi bukurweho nicyo bibyara. Iyo ubuhunzi bukuweho, abari impunzi bagomba gutaha, batataha bagahinduka abaturage batagira ibyangombwa bibabesha mu gihugu bari barahungiyemo. Bisobanura rero ko baba "illegal immigrants", iyo igihugu bahungiyemo cyanze kubaha ubwenegihugu no kubaha impapuro zo gutura nk'abanyamahanga babyemerewe.
Ese ko ntigeze mbona muvuza induru, igihe birukanaga impunzi z'abanyarwanda zari muri Uganda, i Kibati, igihe burizaga amakamyo impunzi 3,000? Ni uko zari zarahungiye Tanzaniya muri 94? Kuki muvugira impunzi zimwe na zimwe, izindi mukumva ko nta kibazo?
Dore ibyo Leta ya FPR mushyigikiye muri ibi yavuze icyo gihe :
1. Rwanda wants more 'Kibati group' refugees repatriated.
2. Rwandan refugees in Uganda flee camp, hunted.
Icyo gihe nitwe twenyine twamaganye iki gikorwa cyo gucyura impunzi za Kibati (zageze Uganda zivuye TZ).
Icyo bigaragaza ni iki : Leta ya FPR ntishaka ko impunzi z'Abahutu zibaho, ngo kuko mu Rwanda ari amahoro, ariko ikumva ko impunzi z'Abatutsi zo zikwiye kuguma mu mahanga, kuko ari uburenganzira bwazo, ndetse byarimba ikohereza ingabo zayo gushoza intambara mu bihugu zahungiyemo (niko iri kubigenza muri RD Congo) mu rwego rwo kurengera ngo "uburenganzira bwazo bwo kubona no kugumana ubwenegihugu".
Iryo vangura mwe murumva ko dukwiye kuryihanganira?
De : Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>
À : "uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>; "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé le : Vendredi 16 août 2013 19h16
Objet : Re: [uRwanda_rwacu] Re: *DHR* Re : Video y'abanyarwanda basobanura uko birukanywe muri Tanzania
rppimvura,
Uravuga ngo Kagame azarwana imyaka 100 muri Congo, Savimbi yarwanye imyaka 20 ariko Angola yakomeje kubaho nkuko bisanzwe. Abaturage nibo bahagiriye ingorane kandi baranicwa. Ntabwo ari abategetsi bibera i Lwanda !
Niba ari yo mibare mwifitiye yo kubuza amahoro abaturage, Imana izabibaza nta kabuza.
From: "rppimvura@yahoo.com" <rppimvura@yahoo.com>
To: uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 16:49
Subject: Re: [uRwanda_rwacu] Re: *DHR* Re : Video y'abanyarwanda basobanura uko birukanywe muri Tanzania
Aho nanone urabeshye cyane. Cessation Clause isaba yuko impunzi zishaka gutaha zafashwa kuneze nigataha, abatabishaka bagatura aho bashaka. Kikwete ibyo yakoze kwirukana abatanzania bakomoka irwanda hamwe nabanyarwanda badafite ibyangombwa, akabatesha ibintu byabo abandi akabarasa ibyo ntabwo aribyo cessation clause ivuga.
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From: Jean-Baptiste Mbera <jbmbera@yahoo.fr>
Sender: uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:13:00 +0100 (BST)
To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr<Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; urwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com<urwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>; ForumUrunana@yahoogroups.com<ForumUrunana@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [uRwanda_rwacu] Re: *DHR* Re : Video y'abanyarwanda basobanura uko birukanywe muri Tanzania
Kuri RPP-Imvura,
Kuvuga ngo cessation clause no kwirukana ziriya mpunzi ntaho bihuriye ni ukwibeshya. Birahahuriye. Cessation clause PK asaba ko ikoreshwa ngo impunzi ashaka ko zitaha zitahe ku ngufu, ireba impunzi zahunze u Rwanda hagati ya 59 na 98!
Samuel Desire,
Ibyo uvuga ni ukuri kwambaye ubusa. Ariko ukuri hari abo gushavuza. Nyamara ngo : " Uvuze ko nyir'urugo yapfuye siwe uba umwishe".
De : Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>
À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; "urwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com" <urwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>; "ForumUrunana@yahoogroups.com" <ForumUrunana@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Vendredi 16 août 2013 15h52
Objet : Re: *DHR* Re : Video y'abanyarwanda basobanura uko birukanywe muri Tanzania
Kuva Kagome yafata ubutegetsi ntiyigeze asaba ko abatutsi bataha. Abatashye babikoze babishaka. Abahutu bo basabwe gutaha ndetse bikorwa no ku ngufu.
Dore ahubwo ko Kagame arwana muri RDC kugira ngo abatutsi bahagume. None na Tanzania ni uko. Kagame ni uko arwana iya RDC atararangiza, iyo intambara itahaba yajyaga gutangira iya Tanzaniya arwanirira abatutsi bahaba.
Reka nibaribe Kagome n'abaja be
Iyo ubutegetsi bwa Habyarimana bufata icyemezo cy'uko habaho clause de cessation ya stati y'ubuhungiro y'abatutsi, ese ikibazo cy'impunzi cyajyaga kuba gikemutse ? Ese intambara ya Kagame iba itarabaye ? Ikibazo cy'impunzi z'abatutsi kiba cyaravuyeho burundi se ? Impunzi z'abatutsi ziba zaratashye ku bushake cyangwa se zigasabwa gutaha ku ngufu?
Baja ba Kagame nimusubize !
Thank you
From: Ignace Rudahunga <rudahi20@hotmail.com>
To: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 14:30
Subject: RE: *DHR* Re : Video y'abanyarwanda basobanura uko birukanywe muri Tanzania
Wa mugani cessation clause no kwirukana bishobora kuba ntaho bihuriye. Cessation clause ireba impunzi z'abahutu ntireba abatutsi kuko bo gutaha barabirwaniye kandi baratsinze. Kubirukana rero ni uguta igihe kuko n'ubundi bajyaga mu Rwanda kwishimira intsinzi agasubira hanze ari intore. Kwirukana intore rero ni ikosa kuko ntaho zihuriye n'impunzi. Ariko abatanzaniya bazi ubwenge koko kurusha babandi babwiyitirira: bakurikiraniye hafi uko ifatwa ry'ibyitso ryagenze mu Rwanda n'induru byateje none bo bahisemo kwikiza abashoboraga kuzaba byo umwanzi wabo aje gusekura Kikwete. Ngo inryarya ihimwa n'inryamirizi.
To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr From: rppimvura@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:03:14 +0000 Subject: Re: *DHR* Re : Video y'abanyarwanda basobanura uko birukanywe muri Tanzania
Cessation Clause nokwirukana ntaho bihuriye.
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From: "nsabifaustin" <nsabifaustin@yahoo.ca>
Sender: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:55:55 -0000
To: <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
ReplyTo: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Subject: *DHR* Re : Video y'abanyarwanda basobanura uko birukanywe muri Tanzania
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