JC,
Reka tubirekere aha tutanavaho tubipfa dore ko uriya Rukokoma ( qui fait l'objet de cette de cette dscussion et que tu admires trop!) kugeza ubu icyo yagaragaje ari amagambo gusa ya gasura ntambara, kandi njye nkaba ntayibonamo.
Ongera usome unumve neza ibyo umaze gusoma:
-Kagame niyanga gushyikirana na opposition tuzafata umuheto!
-Nk'uko inkotanyi zanze gutaha zikoreye amaboko natwe natwe ni uko!
-FDLR nibayirasaho ntituzarebera!
On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:26, "'J.C. Tuvugishukuri' psj_survivors@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:
Nzinink,Ibyo uvuze ubikuye he? Ushobora kubinyereka aho nabyanditse? !Ubishaka utabishaka, Actions speak louder than words !!!!!Saying is one thing, doing another ! Biratandukanye. Double check what you've written here below.It is what you do that determines who you are !!!! ni pilule amère, aliko nta kundi nabigenza, ukuli kwambaye ubusa.Umunsi mwizaJean-Christophe, Tuvugishukuri
It doesn't depend on you whether or not I exist. If you don't like me, don't accept my invitation and don't invite me to come and see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on my side, I will bury you.Jean-Christophe, Utrecht,April 3rd, 2004.Nothing but Human rights. We Will Win !
From: "Nzinink nzinink@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
To: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: *DHR* Re: FDLR niraswa ntituzaba indorerezi, tuzayitabara (Faustin Twagiramungu).
Komera JC.Reka nkwibarize:Ko kugeza ubu opposition na societe civile ibyo byakoze byose byabikesheje amagambo n'inyandiko, wakwihanukira ukavuga ko nta resultats ubona byagezeho?Niba se hari icyo ubona byagezeho ni iki kikubwirako aheza hatari imbere bityo ukaba ushonje uhishiwe?Naho kuvuga ngo:"You will be judged by what you do, not what you say"I would add this:Do not ever underestimate the power of words (positively or negatively)!Even Jesus acknowledged it saying that it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth.
On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:32, "'J.C. Tuvugishukuri' psj_survivors@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:"Bwana Manishimwe rero, komera turi kumwe" => NzininkNiba ntibeshye rero iyi niyo position yawe, position ya JC. => Nzinink ==> Faux !Nzinink,Quand le politique n'assume plus son rôle ! Agomba kuba relayé aux oubliettes uko yaba ameze kose, sans sentiments ni émotions, sans remords ni regrets.Ma position: "You will be judged by what you do, not what you say".Yaba Twagiramungu cyangwa undi wese, uzagira icyo akora, I will certainly be with him/her. Iki gihe ntabwo ali cyo gihe cyo kureba ibyo bakoze mbere. Hali usaba imbabazi akoresheje ibikorwa bye. Nizere ko hali abakora, abazakora batyo atali ukubivuga gusa bilinda une sorte d'orgie de démagogie et de propagande de leur pauvre personnalité. Je suis orienté résultat. Ni pilule amère, aliko abo banyepolitiki bagomba kuyinywa. Full Stop.JC, Tuvugishukuri
It doesn't depend on you whether or not I exist. If you don't like me, don't accept my invitation and don't invite me to come and see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on my side, I will bury you.Jean-Christophe, Utrecht,April 3rd, 2004.Nothing but Human rights. We Will Win !
From: "Nzinink nzinink@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
To: Dhr Group <democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 2:05 PM
Subject: *DHR* Re: FDLR niraswa ntituzaba indorerezi, tuzayitabara (Faustin Twagiramungu).
Komera Rwaka.Aha rwose ndabona urimo ucabiranya kubera ko udasubiza ibyo Manishimwe yabajije.Uwiyise Pytho Pytho mu kanya yanditse ati:"Njyewe iyo mbona bamwe kuri izi mbuga bitera amajeki ngo bazahangana na Kagame mu nzira y'amahoro. Twese ni byo twifuza, Ariko ntitwagombye kugumya kurota".Niba ntibeshye rero iyi niyo position yawe, position ya JC.Biriya urimo kuvuga aho kwereka aho izo ngufu Rukokoma n'abambari be bazana nibyo nita gucsbiranya.Bitabaye ibyo CPC ushimagiza yaba ntaho itaniye na bariya uwiyise Pytho avuga ko bakiri mu nzozi (zitari zimwe za Rwanda Dream Initiative)!!!Bwana Manishimwe rero, komera turi kumwe.Abakwikoma bose ujye ubohereza muri Birmanie kwa San Suki ubabaze niba hari ingufu yakoresheje kugirango agere aho ari.No mu Rwanda rero birashoboka. Ikibazo ni abakomehe kudutobera nkana cg batabizi, bakadukereza cg bakadusubiza inyuma.Pour votre info:
Ikiganiro cy'Abidishyi Kagame, Nziza na Ndahiro uko twakibwiwe Orléans (France) taliki ya 28.01.2012.
https://mbasic.facebook.com/notes/victoire-ingabire-umuhoza/ikiganiro-cyabidishyi-kagame-nziza-na-ndahiro-uko-twakibwiwe-orl%C3%A9ans-france-tali/10150542036218423/?refid=17Kagame : Abaturage ntibankunda, Ndahiro.Ndahiro : Baragukunda, Nyagasani, ko ubaha icyo barya se, ikindi ni iki?Kagame : Bararya koko ? Ko iyo mbareba mu maso ko mbona yarahennye?Nziza : Ni indoro y'igitinyiro, Nyagasani. Barya rimwe mu munsi birahagije, nta kindi bashaka, Nyagasani.Kagame : Koko barankunda, Nziza?Nziza : Baragukunda, Nyagasani, uretse amazimwe ahwihwiswa ngo warabahekuye, wica imbaga. Humura ariko, Nyagasani, uwo twumvise avuga nkuko, turamukacira tukamuryoza ko apfobya itsembabwoko.Kagame : Ndahiro ko Nzizaaaaaa!Ndahiro : Baragukunda, Nyagasani. Wanavuze ko na miliyoni yagucitse ikajya i Kongo. Izo si impuhwe se, Nyagasani ? Waranagize n'icyo gitekerezo, gihamya ni iyihe ko nta kimenyetso kiranga aho baba bariciwe?Kagame : Abanyamerika ntibankunda, Ndahiro.Ndahiro : Baragukunda, Nyagasani, uretse uriya mugore Suzana Rice, tutazi uwamutumye. Ari na Obama si Pentagone, icyangombwa ni ingufu za gisirikare.Kagame : Nziza ibyo avuga ko bitampumurije?Nziza: Baragukunda, Nyagasani, na Africom y'abasirikare babo yakoze raporo ivugako mu minsi iri imbere ushobora kuzagira ibibazo. Ni ukukunekera, Nyagasani.Kagame : Abanyaburayi baranyanga, Nziza.Nziza : Oya, baragukunda, Nyagasani, na Sarkozy yarakwakiriye kandi ni igihangange.Kagame : Ndahiro koko Sarkozy arankunda?Ndahiro : Aragukunda, Nyagasani. No muri iyi minsi abantu be basohoye raporo ivugako igisasu cyarashe indege y'uwo wasimbuye Habyarimana cyaturutse i Kanombe. Ntaho bigeze bavuga ko ari wowe watanze wayihanuye.Kagame : Nziza ko Mushikiwabo yabivuze ukundi?Nziza : Ibyo uvuga ni ukuri, Nyagasani. Kugeza ubu nanjye sinumva impamvu iriya raporo yasohotse. Ariko Sarkozy aragukunda, Nyagasani.Kagame : Noneho amahanga arankunda.Nziza : Aragukunda, Nyagasani, ntiwishinge abategetsi bo mu Bubiligi na Hispaniya banze kukuramutsa wabasuye. Ntiwishinge amagambo y'intumwa ya Amerika.Ndahiro : Amahanga aragukunda, Nyagasani, ntiwishinge imiryango iharanira uburenganziramuntu n'abanyamakuru bakwamagana aho ugeze hose. Biriya byone ni amagambo. Bose ni useless.Kagame : Abanyafurika bo barankunda, Nziza.Nziza : Baragukunda, Nyagasani n'abatabizi bitaga abanzi bawe nka Museveni, wabonye ko ubu muri inshuti. Na Khadafi wigendeye yaragukundaga.Kagame : Nyamwasa arashaka kumpirika, Ndahiro.Ndahiro : Barakubeshya, Nyagasani, ni Rudasingwa kandi nta ngabo, yigeze.Kagame : Umudamu Victoire Ingabire ko bambwira ko ari umutasi wo kumvana ku butegetsi?Nziza : Barakubeshya, Nyagasani, ntiyaguhangara kuko na we nta ngabo. Ararwanisha ijambo gusa. Ni useless.Kagame : Aho harakomeye, Ndahiro.Ndahiro : Harakomeye, Nyagasani, kuko ijambo niryo rikuru, kandi twe turi ingabo, icyo tuzi ni ingufu.Kagame : Nziza urabivugaho iki!Nziza : Ariko humura, Nyagasani, yego ijambo niryo rikuru, iyo umuntu yarikwatse aba yagutsinze. Ariko humura, Nyagasani, wanivugiye ko ari umugore.Kagame : Ndahiro none ko mbonaaaaaaa!Ndahiro : Humura, Nyagasani, na Mutara Rudahigwa wavuze wijyanye i Bujumbura, wowe nibabikubwira uzanangire ntuzajye kwivuza.Kagame : Mfite ubwoba, Nziza, amazi yarenze inkombe.Nziza : Ufite ubwoba, Nyagasani, ndabireba, amazi yarenze inkombe. Gutsindirwa kw'ijambo, aho ntitwahateguye, ijambo ntiwarirasa, ijambo ntiwaritsindisha utari wigeze kwitoza kurivuga, kuko niwo wakabaye umuhamuro.Kagame : Ubutegetsi burakendeye, Nziza, ubutegetsi buragiye, Ndahiro!Nkiko : Barwanashyaka, baterankunga, ijambo koko niryo rikuru. Mureke turimwake burundu, maze murebe ngo n'ingabo ze akangisha ngo ziraba impehe. Ngaho rero nimutinyuke mwiyizere, mumenye ko mushobora guhindura ibintu bikajya mu nzira mushaka. Nimutinyuke nk'umukobwa uva iwabo, akajya iw'abandi, naho akahagira iwabo. Nk'umugore utwita, azi uko igise kiryana, ariko kubyara no kwungura umuryango bikarenga gutinya gupfira ku gise. Ejobundi umuntu yarambwiye ati ibyo murimo by'abanyarwanda si ibyanjye ubu ndi umufaransa. Naramusubije nti ntuzashobora kuba undi utabanje kuba wowe. Banyarwanda nimutinyuke, mufate ijambo murebe ngo turataha u Rwanda. Barwanashyaka nimutinyuke. Kayibanda n'abarwanashyaka bibanze, iyo baza gutinya umwami, dore ko we yari Imana, ntibari kujya kw'isonga ya Revolusiyo ya 1959, ngo bahirike ubwami i Gitarama kuri 28.01.1961, bimike demokarasi, twibutse uyu munsi, dore hashize imyaka 51.Murakarama. Twese hamwe tuzatsinda.FDU-InkingiNkiko Nsengimana,Umuyobozi wa Komite Mpuzabikorwa
On Aug 15, 2014, at 7:20, "Theobald Gakwaya tgakwaya@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:Muvandimwe Manishimwe,Gutabara ntibivuga gukoresha intwaro gusa. Kwumvisha urasa ko ntawe urasa uwashyize intwaro hasi k'ubushake ubwabyo ni ubutabazi.Abo bifuza kurasa bari batanze ultimatum y'amezi atatu ubu yavuye kuri atatu igera kuri atandatu uretse ko hasigaye amezi ane kuko noneho bihaye kugeza fin decembre 2014.Ameza ane ni menshi singombwa rwose kwemeza ko muri ayo mezi ntakizahinduka.Niba wumva kuba izo mpunzi z'abahutu zigiye kurasirwa muri Kongo ntacyo bikubwiye nta mpamvu mbona yo kugaya no guca intege abarimo bagerageza kugira icyo bakora. Mbese wowe nk'umunyarwanda nta muganda watanga uretse kwandika no kuvuga izina rya Twagiramungu Faustin gusa? Niba se koko wowe urwana intambara y'ibitekerezo Ni gute wumva ko CPC ari Twagiramungu Faustin? Erega nubwo yaba atariho dore ko mbona ko wowe aricyo kibazo ufite, CPC yagumaho kandi ikarangiza inshingano yiyemeje. Gutabara ni ibikorwa si amagmbo gusa kandi abari muri FDLR bazi ko harimo hakorwa byinshi uzabegere ubabaze niba wumva kubaza Twagiramungu Faustin bitakunogera.UkomereOn Friday, August 15, 2014 4:21 AM, "Jean de Dieu Manishimwe jdmanishimwe@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:
Tuvugishukuri,Ko najyaga mbona ugerageza gusubiza ibitekerezo (n'ubwo hari ibyo tutakumvikanaho) bikugendekeye gute ? FDLR ifite intwaro iramutse irashwe Twagiramungu yayitabaza iki ntazo afite ? Ni aho wakagombye gusubiza. Naho ayo mashuli yawe, niba warize aho abandi batize, ihamanire.Jean de Dieu Manishimwe
18 rue Auguste Perret
75013 ParisLe Vendredi 15 août 2014 4h25, "Theobald Gakwaya tgakwaya@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :
Mubabarire kuko batazi icyo bakora. Gusa ntibazatinda kubona ko bibeshye. Ikibazo ni uko bakomeza gukina mu bikomeye nk'abapfayongo.RwakaOn Thursday, August 14, 2014 5:25 PM, "'J.C. Tuvugishukuri' psj_survivors@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:
Abahutu bamwe wangira ngo ntibigeze mu ishuli.Ndashimira imana ko ntiganye nabo bameze batyo.Byali kuntera isoni.Thanks to you God.
It doesn't depend on you whether or not I exist. If you don't like me, don't accept my invitation and don't invite me to come and see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on my side, I will bury you.Jean-Christophe, Utrecht,April 3rd, 2004.Nothing but Human rights. We Will Win !From: "Jean de Dieu Manishimwe jdmanishimwe@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
To: democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:22 PM
Subject: Réf.: Re: *DHR* FDLR niraswa ntituzaba indorerezi, tuzayitabara (Faustin Twagiramungu).
Nibyo uvuze ukuri. Mbona Twagiramungu yarigize umwami wa opposition, yumva ko inzira yahisemo ariyo kamara, abandi bose bakagomba kumwoma inyuma.
Harya ngo FDLR niraswa azayitabarisha ingufu avanye he ?
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Le lun. 11 août 2014 12:55 HAEC, UWIMANA Espÿffffffffffe9rance uwimanapouma@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] a écrit :
>Bwana King Kalimunda ugize neza kutugezaho ikiganiro Bwana Twagiramungu Faustin yatanze kuri Radio Impala agira icyo avuga kubirebana nuko ONU idashaka kumva ibyifuzo bya FDLR .Ariko nubwo Bwana Twagiramungu F.avugako ko FDLR niterwa izatabarwa akaba ahamagarira amashyaka kuba yashyigikira imigambi ya FDLR ndagira ngo rwose nk' umuntu mukorana uzamurye akara umwibutse ko ubu opposition ihanganye n' Ubutegetsi bwa FPR bityo mubyo atangaza ajye yirinda gushaka guhangana cg guhanganisha andi mashyaka atumva kimwe n' inzira yahisemo cg se ibitekerezo bye.Kuko imvugo ye uyumvise isa naho imugaragaza ko yiyemeje guhangana kumpande zombi.
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>Niba ishyaka cg ihuriro ryumva ko ryihagije nirikore rireke guta igihe rishaka gusenyana .
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>Njye nkongeraho ko abumva hari icyo bari gukora ko batagombye kugira impungenge ahubwo bazivune uzabaka kumatunda yabo batarafatanyije kuyahinga ariko babe baretse kwivuga imyato batarafunga n' imishumi ya bote.
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>Nyuma y'aho Russ Feingold intumwa idasanzwe ya leta zunze Ubumwe z'Amerika mu karere k'ibiyaga bigari atangarije kuwa kabiri taliki ya 5/08/2014 ko nyuma y'amezi 6 FDLR izaraswa niba idashyize intwaro hasi ndetse ikaba itemerewe no gukora politique mu Rwanda, Bwana Faustin Twagiramungu yagiranye ikiganiro na radiyo Impala agira icyo avuga kuri ayo magambo,avugako FDLR niraswa ntakurebera kuzabaho izatabarwa !
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>Kanda aha usome ibikurikira: http://www.veritasinfo.fr/2014/08/fdlr-niraswa-ntituzaba-indorerezi-tuzayitabara-faustin-twagiramungu.htmlhttp://www.veritasinfo.fr/2014/08/fdlr-niraswa-ntituzaba-indorerezi-tuzayitabara-faustin-twagiramungu.html
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