Fw: Re : *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa

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From: Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, 28 September 2013, 16:56
Subject: Re: Re : *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa

 

Kami,

 

Ibyo twaganiriye ntabwo urabyumva na gato. Twavuze tuti ni byo koko icyongereza gifite akamaro. Ariko wasanze abantu bavuga urulimi ntabwo warusimbuza urwawe ku ngufu utanababajije. Na colonisation si uko byagenze. Urarubigisha urwo rwawe wazanye bikaba inyongera.

Uwo mucuruzi uvuga hari n'ubwo yagenda agahura n'undi mucuruzi uzi igifaransa. Kandi nta nubwo azajya i Dubai gusa. None se ko u Rwanda rushaka gucuruza na Congo ( RDC na Brazza), Burundi, Gabon n'ibindi bihugu bivuga igifaransa, aho ruzabishobora ko ibyo bihugu byose bihindura kugira ngo bivuge icyongereza kugira ngo bakore ubucuruzi na Kagame? None se bo bahisemo igifaransa ubita ibicucu ? Kagame se iyatabona imfashanyo zivuye muri genocide, kuvuga icyongereza byajyaga kongeraho iki ku Rwanda. Ntiyajyaga no kubona abarimu bakigisha kuko atabona amafarnaga yo kubahemba no guhindura byose. Twavuze ko competitivite commerciale y'u Rwanda ari negative ugereranije na Kenya, Tanzania na Uganda. Ni nayo mpamvu Kagame yagombye gushakisha ahandi kandi yaratangiye kuko nawe ari uko abibona. Abanyarwanda ni abaguzi gusa b'ibintu bikorerwa muri Kenya, Uganda na Tanzania.   None bizakomeza gutyo kugeza ryari ? Ntabwo mbona aho icyongereza gifite uruhare mu 'bukire' bw'u Rwanda. Birumvikana ko Kenya, Uganda na Tanzania bahaye ikaze u Rwanda muri EAC. Ni interets zabo bashyiraga imbere.

From: Kamaliza Adèle <adelekamaliza@yahoo.com>
To: fondationbanyarwanda <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>; DHR <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; urwanda_rwacu <urwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 28 September 2013, 16:31
Subject: Re: Re : *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa

 

Kami Cecil,

Utumye ntekereza ko ari (nsimbutse Misiri na Mezopotami) ikigereki, ari ikilatini byose ubu bitakiri indimi zikoreshwa na bose ku isi hose. Indimi zigera igihe zigasaza, zigata agaciro, zigasigara ari karahanyuze, hakimikwa ururimu rugezweho cyangwa se ruvugwa na besnhi cyangwa kubera ingufu z'abaruvuga. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VU52EzblZE

Ikindi ntekereje ni ku mikoro make y'u Rwanda. Gukoresha indimi 3 bigira ingaruka ku mutungo w'igihugu, reba nawe gucapisha ibyangombwa, ibyemezo n'impapuro za Leta muri izo ndimi zose. Birahenda.

Nubwo ibyo Kagame agirira igifaransa bituruka ku nzika (afungirwa mu Bufaransa igihe yari inyeshyamba) n'amakimbirane bwite (bacana umubano igihe bafata (ruse) bagafunga Rose Kabuye) yagiye agirana n'igihugu cy'ubufaransa, ntibyatubuza kuzirikana ku ngaruka (économiques) zo gukoresha indimi nyinshi nka langues officielles. - Ahubwo njye bizagera aho numva ikinyarwanda cyonyine ari cyo cyaba langue officielle, izindi ndimi zikigwa mu mashuri nyuma buri wese akihiritamo urumufitiye akamaro. - Umucuruzi uteganya kujya guhahira i Dubaï cyangwa Shanghai, nta gifaransa akeneye keretse uzanyura Pondishery. Umwanditsi ukeneye kumenyekana ku isi hose, azahitamo igifaransa cyangwa icyongereza kubera inyungu ze bwite (je n'oublie pas que globalement le français perd beaucoup de terrain à cause entre autres des intellectuels de la France dite métropolitaine qui sont ethno-centrés).

A. Kamaliza

De : Kami <cecil.kami@yahoo.fr>
À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé le : Samedi 28 septembre 2013 16h35
Objet : Re: Re : *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa

 

Munyensanga,

Nkeka ikibazo atari (vraiment) igifaransa kuri iriya billet ahubwo ni gahunda ya exclusion qui sous-tendrait pareille mesure, ignorant au passage, comme vous l'avez si bien mentionné, que cette langue est toujours reconnue comme langue nationale (art 5 de la constitution).

Ndemeza ko utayobewe symbolisme y'ifaranga muri souveraineté y'ibihugu ndetse na puissance yabyo. Gukora ku kintu nka kiriya rero comme ça nk'aho yirukana ministre we madame Monika Mukaruriza (na Bill Kayonga)... Demain ce sera les cartes d'identité, les documents administratifs, les émissions radio, etc.

On se croirait au temps des Boers imposant leur langue au reste de la population sud-africaine...

English is indeed a useful tool but why can't they let those who still have good command of french enjoy that cultural diversity? It's all about tolerance and hence democracy.

WE nziza.

De : Cyprien Munyensanga <munyensanga@yahoo.fr>
À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé le : Samedi 28 septembre 2013 15h14
Objet : Re : *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa

 

Nyakwigendera Loti Bizimana ati: "igifaransa kirakamye, igifaransa kirakamye"!!!

 

Cyakora nubwo bwose mbona nta mpamvu yo kutacyandika ku noti niba kikibarirwa mu ndimi zemewe n'itegeko-nshinga ry'igihugu, ariko rero ntitwibagirwe ko igifaransa ubwacyo ari ururimi ruri ku muteremuko kw'isi yose, ndetse no mu bufaransa ubwaho (une langue en perte de vitesse, y compris en France!)

 

Ubu amashuri akomeye, amenshi yigenga, yo mu Bufaransa ubwaho (HEC Paris, EM Lyon, ESSEC…) inyigisho zayo nyinshi zitangwa mu cyongereza! Ndetse mu minsi ishize hari impaka zikomeye, kuko hari benshi basanga igihe kigeze ko aho kwihambira ku gifaransa, na za Kaminuza za Leta zagombye gutangira gutanga byibura amasomo amwe n'amwe mu cyongereza, kugirango abanyeshuri bazo nabo bagire amahirwe kw'isoko ry'umurimo!

 

Mu magambo make rero, nubwo gukura igifaransa ku noti ntacyo byunguye, ariko rero na none nta n'icyo byishe cyane! No mu buzima busanzwe rero, abanyarwanda ntitwari dukwiye gukomeza kwihambira ku ndimi zigenda zita agaciro umunsi ku wundi, ahubwo nitwite cyane ku kinyarwanda cyacu gakondo no ku ndimi z'amahanga zidufitiye akamaro uyu munsi n'ejo hazaza.

 

C. M.

De : agnesmurebwayire <agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr>
À : Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Envoyé le : Samedi 28 septembre 2013 8h09
Objet : Re : *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa

 

"No more French unless France recolonises Rwanda..." (Charles Muligande)

Harya u Bufaransa bwakolonije u Rwanda ryali?

--- Dans Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr, Ngarambe Joseph <jngarambe2010@...> a écrit :
>
> "Ariko
> umugore we aracyivuga ashobora kumwunvisha ibyiza byo kuvuga igifransa! Ikindi,
> abajyanama be bamaze iki ko abenshi bize muri système français?" (INCHALAH EL HAJI)
>
> Mister Inchalah El Haji,
>
> Kuri iki kibazo cyawe, ministiri Muligande wize no mu Gifaransa i Bujumbura muri Collège St Albert kimwe na Janeti (niba nibuka neza), aratanga igisubizo mu Cyongereza, binyuze mu Kinyamakuru RNA cy'Inkotanyi y'umufarankofoni Rutazibwa:
>
> No more French unless France recolonises Rwanda
>
>
>
> Monday, 14 September 2009 21:41 by RNA Reporters
>
> Kigali: As the fallout over the implementation of the shift from French to English rages on, a top cabinet official has made it clear that the road away from French is unstoppable, RNA reports.
> New Education Minister Dr. Charles Murigande shut the door to any more discussion over the policy with the strongest comments ever made by a top government official. Dr. Murigande said Sunday that everything is on course for all schools to start teaching in English.
>
> “There is no turning back to French as a language of instruction in this country,†he said to an audience of journalists and stakeholders, while pounding his table. “We have switched to English forever.â€Â 
>
> Government has argued that taking up English simply reinforces Rwanda’s position in the international system. However critics accuse government of abandoning a constitutional stipulation which makes Rwanda a country with three languages English, French and Kinyarwanda. 
>
> Last week one of the fiercest critics of government Mr. Paul Rusesabagina â€" the exiled face behind the Hollywood movie ‘Hotel Rwanda’, also raised his toughest attacks.
>
> He claimed in a BBC program that a “small group of between 30,000 and 40,000 people who came from Uganda†is imposing English on the whole country. 
>
> Mr. Rusesabagina has launched a campaign to ensure Rwanda is not allowed into the British Commonwealth group of nations. Officials just brushed off these latest actions by the man accused here of seeking to acquire fame from the country’s suffering.  
>
> Rwanda has been French-speaking for ages which completely disqualifies it outrightly from the British grouping, argues Mr. Rusesabagina. But supporters of Kigali have branded him as irrelevant. 
>
> For Education Minister Dr. Murigande, who is not new to very strong comments against France, the road to ending French is no room for compromise. 
>
> Rwanda, he told his audience Sunday, will never go back to French “unless France recolonises Africaâ€.  
>
> About two years ago, Dr. Murigande, when he was Foreign Affairs Minister told RNA in a wide ranging interview: “We were killed by the French in the name of Francophonie†referring to the grouping of French colonies. 
>
> Government is finalizing plans to build thousands of new classrooms across the country in time for the start in January of the nine-year basic education program. Education officials also want the expansion program to come with a phasing-in of English in all schools as the language of instruction.
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> Science subjects are already being taught in English and universities have all switched all instruction to English. 
>
> http://www.rnanews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1929&Itemid=1
>
>
> Ndemeranywa namwe ko guca Igifaransa ari ishyano ku mpamvu nyinshi (harimo gukandagira Abanyarwanda bakivuga, n'uko duturanye na RDC n'u Burundi). Uretse kandi na Tanzania na Kenya utanzeho urugero ko zigerageza kucyigisha, nagira ngo nguhe n'urundi rwa Nigeria na Ghana:
>
> Nigeria : Après Sani Abacha, la langue française s’impose
> dans l’Armée
>
> Village français du Nigeria : immersion en territoire
> francophone
>
>
> Quand le français séduit les anglophones d'Afrique
>
> Nigeria : le français, langue du business
>
> Week-end nziza.
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> De : INCHALAH EL HAJI <inchalah15@...>
> À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
> Envoyé le : Samedi 28 septembre 2013 11h41
> Objet : Re: *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa
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>
>
>  
> "...Jye mbona mu Rwanda ukurikije amateka yarwo mabi y'ubuhunzi hakwiye multilinguisme Anglais/Francais. Guca igifaransa mu Rwanda ni ugutegura ahabi hazaza h'u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda..."
>  
> Kgm we niveau ye ishobora kudatuma yumva akamaro ka bilinguisme ku gihugu cy'u Rwanda. Ariko umugore we aracyivuga ashobora kumwunvisha ibyiza byo kuvuga igifransa! Ikindi, abajyanama be bamaze iki ko abenshi bize muri système français?  Mu Bugande, muri Kenya na Tanzaniya hari amashuli yigisha igifransa. Naho mu rwanda ngo igifransa nibagisuzugure? None se no muri constitution bagikuyemo? Hari icyemezo cyafatiwe urwo rulimi au niveau ya parlement na sénat? Niba igisubizo ari oya, bizandikwa kuri KGM we ubwe! Ibi kandi nibyo bita: "sous-développement mental".
> Kuba urulimi rwarakunaniye sicyo cyatuma ubuza abandi kurwiga!
>
>
> De : Anastase GASANA <anastasegasana@...>
> À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
> Envoyé le : Samedi 28 septembre 2013 1h14
> Objet : RE: *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa
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>
>
>  
> IGIFARANSA cyagombaga kugaragaraho kuko guca igifaransa mu Rwanda ari politiki mbi ya FPR Inkotanyi yirengagiza ko plus de la majorite y'abantu bize mu Rwanda bize amashuli yabo yose mu gifarnsa ari abahoze mu Rwanda abavuye i Burundi, Congo no mu bindi bihugu francophones. Ntitugoma kandi kwirengagiza nka FPR ko dufite impunzi z'abanyarwanda zinyanyagiye hirya no hino kw'isi mu bihugu bikoresha ururimi rw'igifaransa nk'ubufaransa nyine, ubusuwisi, Ububiligi, Afrique de l'ouest francophonesyose, Afrique centrale yose, za Madagascar, Iles Comores Mayotte n'ahandi henshi abanyarwanda bari. Bariga muri urwo rurimi abana babo bariga muri urwo rurimi, ubwo se FPR ikeka ko abo banyarwanda bose batazatahuka umunsi umwe mu gihugu cyabo ngo bakigiremo uruhare n'uburengazira busesuye bwo kubona akazi no kugikorera ngo nuko batavuga icyongerereza. Jye mbona mu Rwanda ukurikije amateka yarwo mabi y'ubuhunzi hakwiye multilinguisme Anglais/Francais. Guca igifaransa mu
> Rwanda ni ugutegura ahabi hazaza h'u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda.
>
>
> To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
> From: jngarambe2010@...
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:43:34 +0100
> Subject: *DHR* Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa
>
>  
>
>
> http://www.igihe.com/ubukungu/ubucuruzi/article/igifaransa-ntikigaragara-ku-noti
>
> Igifaransa ntikigaragara ku noti nshya ya 500 kuko n’inyandiko z’ubu zitagikoresha-Rwangombwa
> Yanditswe kuya 27-09-2013 - Saa 15:26' na Elisée Mpirwa
>
>
> Ubwo mu minsi ishize Banki Nkuru y’u Rwanda(BNR)yashyiraga hanze inoti nshya y’amafaranga 500 bamwe batunguwe no gusanga nta rurimi rw’Igifaransa ruriho, ariko Guverineri w’iyi banki avuga ko basanze atari ngombwa kuko ngo na dosiye za leta z’ubu zikoresha cyane Ikinyarwanda n’Icyongereza.
> Ubwo umunyamakuru wa IGIHE yabazaga Guverineri wa BNR, John Rwangombwa ibyerekeranye n’ibibazo byibazwa n’abaturage kuri iyi noti, yagize ati “Kuba nta gifaransa kiriho ni uko twasanze n’ubundi inyandiko nyinshi za leta zisohoka mu Kinyarwanda n’Icyongereza, bityo dusanga atari ngombwa cyane ko dushyiraho Igifaransa.â€
>
>
> Inoti nshya ya Rwf500 (hejuru) hamwe n'inoti yari isanzwe iriho Igifaransa
> Ubusanzwe itegeko nshinga rya Repubulika y’u Rwanda rivuga ko indimi zemewe mu Rwanda ari Ikinyarwanda, Igifaransa n’Icyongereza, ariko ubu inyandiko nyinshi zituruka mu nzego z’ubuyobozi zisohoka ahanini mu ndimi z’Ikinyarwanda n’Icyongereza.
>
> Nk’uko Rwangombwa yabisobanuye, nta zindi mpamvu zatumye ururimi rw’Igifaransa rutagaragara kuri iyi noti, byatewe ni uko rutagikoreshwa cyane mu Rwanda nk’uko byahoze mu myaka yashize, dore ko ubu u Rwanda rubarizwa mu miryango itandukanye ikoresha ururimi rw’Icyongereza nk’uwa Afurikaka y’Iburasirazuba (EAC) ndetse na Commonwealth.
>
> Rwangombwa kandi yavuze no ku kuba iyi noti nshya ifite amabara asa n’inoti y’amafaranga 1,000 ati “Nibyo koko iyi noti ijya gusa nk’iyi 1,000 ariko ibiyiranga ntabwo bihuye nk’uko itangazo twashyize ahagaragara ubwo yajyaga ku isoko ribigaragaza. Ntabwo ari ikibazo kuba bisa kuko n’amadorali ya Amerika arasa kandi abantu bamenya iya 50 cyangwa iyi 100.â€
>
> Kuva mu 2009 kugeza ubu mu Rwanda guhera mu mashuri mato kugeza muri za kaminuza, Icyongereza ni rwo rurimi rukoreshwa mu myigishirize, aho bitandukanye no mu myaka yabanje imyigishirize yifashishaga ururimi rw’Igifaransa.
>
> Uru rurimi rw’Icyongereza kandi ni rwo rurimi ruhuriraho n’ibihugu byinshi ku isi mu buryo bwo gutumanaho, cyane cyane bigaragarira mu nama mpuzamahanga zitandukanye zibera hirya no hino ku isi ndetse n’inyandiko zikomeye ziba akenshi ziri muri uru rurimi rukoreshwa muri Leta Zunze Ubumwe za Amerika n’u Bwongereza, bigaragara nk’aho ari byo biyoboye ibindi ku isi dore ko imyanzuro bifata ntawe uyivuguruza.
>
> mpirwaelisee@...
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